Low fps on high end gpu's

[DarkFromDaStreet]

My rig atm : 16 ddr3 1866mhz Msi z97 gaming 5 motherboard Rtx 3070 gigabyte 8gb oc i7 4790k 3 hdds 1ssd Power sup 850 gold

I have had problems with low fps for a while now. For examples, on games like red dead ultra settings, i dont go past 70 fps on 1080p On cyberpunk im mainly in the 40 fps, it goes up to 70 then down to 23 fps sometimes during actiong Other videos for cyberpunk ultra 1080p they get 70 fps while being in action without frame drops.

I need help understanding whats going on. I had the same problem with a a Sapphire nitro rx 5700 xt that i bought, lasted with me aprox 6 months, and today i got a new one thinking it will fix the problem and that maybe my amd drivers was the culprit but seems like it wasnt. I had the same issue with fps drops on both of these high end cards.

Could it be that my motherboard is the culprit ? When i had a gtx 980 ti ( before it died on me and i switched to rx 5700xt ) it was much smoother and i had more fps which makes no sense ?

Thank you for any advices.

Here is the benchmark : https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/38841045

Model Bench
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 83.6%
GPU Nvidia RTX 3070 163.5%
SSD Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB 52.8%
SSD Crucial MX500 1TB 106.3%
HDD WD Blue 1TB (2012) 72%
HDD Samsung HD502HJ 500GB 61.7%
RAM HyperX Fury DDR3 1866 C10 2x8GB 37.7%
MBD MSI Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)


Edit : i just added the benchmark of my pc, it says my ram is acting below average at aroud 33% even tho i bought those new ram a month ago an they are brand new.
I dont know what the problem is this is so frustrating tbh.

[Chotato]

Is this happening in every game or just Cyberpunk? If it's only Cyberpunk, you should probably ask on that game's discussion page or contact CDPR directly through their support site.

[DarkFromDaStreet]

Originally posted by Chotato:

Is this happening in every game or just Cyberpunk? If it's only Cyberpunk, you should probably ask on that game's discussion page or contact CDPR directly through their support site.

every single game my guy, i used to have on my gtx 980 ti like 250 fps on league, now with both rx 5700xt and rtx 3070 im getting less than 130...
I m getting 70 fps to 55 on red dead 2 ultra 1080p all other benchmarks are 20 fps higher and no stuttering fps like mine.
Is this some kinda ggrd5 working better on my motherboard ?

[Chotato]

I had a similar thing happen when I upgraded from my GTX 970 to the RTX 2070s I have now. Old card actually got higher average FPS than the new card. It's a CPU bottleneck causing the issue for me, but your i7 doesn't seem like it would cause that at all.

Can you confirm that all your cores are working while you're playing? I've had issues with my CPU randomly deciding to park cores that should be doing work.

[DarkFromDaStreet]

Originally posted by Chotato:

I had a similar thing happen when I upgraded from my GTX 970 to the RTX 2070s I have now. Old card actually got higher average FPS than the new card. It's a CPU bottleneck causing the issue for me, but your i7 doesn't seem like it would cause that at all.

Can you confirm that all your cores are working while you're playing? I've had issues with my CPU randomly deciding to park cores that should be doing work.

Check the new benchmark i put in the post, it says my CPU is excellent, or do you think i should use MSI burner to check all cores working ?

[Grimy_RIck]

The rest of your system is abit on the old side to pair with a 3070 ? maybe you should look at an upgrade.

[DarkFromDaStreet]

Originally posted by Grimy_RIck:

The rest of your system is abit on the old side to pair with a 3070 ? maybe you should look at an upgrade.

I just need to be sure it isnt any other problem ? imagine i waste 1.5k but it couldve that the problem is somewhere else

[Chotato]

The benchmark is testing your overall CPU performance, but not individual core performance. I know in W7 you can check to see how much load each core is under in the Task Manager under the Performance tab. No idea how to access this in W10 as I don't use it, but I would check that. Could be putting most of the CPU load on core 0 instead of dividing the work up evenly.

[Hare+Guu!]

Your cpu is old. You have the large frame dips because your core count is too low. Sure, it can push similar frames to new cpu when nothing is happening, but once the action starts, that's where you get problems.

The frame dips weren't as noticeable on older gpu because the gap between high and low wasn't as big. Going from 70 to 20 is a lot more jarring than going from 40 to 20.

Alternatively, it's possible that your games are defaulting to the intel igpu. Which is a common problem with intel processors. But I highly doubt it can even reach 70fps in those games in the first place.

[м]

Originally posted by Error 404 Unamed:

I just need to be sure it isnt any other problem ? imagine i waste 1.5k but it couldve that the problem is somewhere else

your cpu is so slow that it bottlenecks the 3070 in 1080p and 1440p.

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i7-4790K/GeForce_RTX_3070/0AH175lu/16/100/

[Julien, cut it out.]

People are right for pointing out that, besides your GPU, the rest of your hardware is old and will (heavily) bottleneck your performance overall.
You can diminish the amount of bottleneck by overclocking your CPU. Nontheless, a more modern CPU with a higher single-thread performance will be more benefical in your case.

But, there SEEMS to be an issue with the RAM performance. The RAM seems to run at the correct specification (1866 MhZ), but the performance is abysmal.

I suggest to perform the RAM benchmark within AIDA64 for evaluation. If the results are alike, there is a hardware or a configuration issue.

Low RAM performance should affect the performance of the CPU. I would perform different CPU benchmarks like Cinebench or the CPU benchmark within 3D Mark and compare results.

Update your BIOS and install the latest chipset driver.[www.msi.com]

[LeyzerTB]

Are you aware you may have an i7, but it's a 4th gen CPU....?

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

It might help somewhat setting your ram back to default or auto because it looks crippled in your link. But yeah the cpu is underwhelming for sure. You don't really want your cpu to be your pc's biggest limitation.

[Set-115689]

Base clock 4 GHz, turbo 4.2 GHz (avg) - cpu overheating? Could be a result of your ram? Ram in the right sots, etc...? Varies from mainboard to mainboard sometimes.

At 1080p you will probably be limited by the cpu in most games. Look at recent fps videos on youtube for your specs and games you have.

[_I_]

put a good cooler on it and oc to 4.5+
oc, test repeat
watch temps

basic rules
stable + cool = raise cpu multi
stable + hot = lower vcore
unstable + cool = raise vcore
unstable + hot = go back to last stable and stop

[Vulkan]

slow ddr3 ram and you are cpu bottlednecked at 1080p/1440p with a 3070. upgrade mobo/cpu/ ram