At A Loss

[Grilled Salmon]

I'm coming here again because I have no idea where else to go. A long while ago I made a post about how my computer would randomly slow down while loading things. Since then, I have not only rearranged my RAM sticks to the way the people suggested in that post, but I have replaced my motherboard entirely. It still happens every night around 12, or if I leave my computer on long enough. I've defragmented, I've used the Windows Memory Diagnostic (no errors found), I've tried to defragment the disc that has windows on it to no avail, I've scanned my entire computer with Malwarebytes Pro AND Malwarebytes Adwcleaner, and used the repair function of Adwcleaner to repair the registry, I've tested the disc for errors and got nothing. I'm at the end of my rope with this mess.

To go further into detail, earlier in the day I can game fine, no lag, nothing bad happens, but later into the evening my computer will lag, however, it will still detect all my inputs and what is happening in the game, and moments later I'll be able to see everything as if I had moved, enemies had moved, and the world had moved, as if the computer had never froze up in the first place. This has led to several moments of frustration, getting slaughtered in FPS games, Discord calls freezing up, typing becoming slow and sluggish. And with the Discord aspect, after it freezes it loads all of the things that were said at once, as if they were being said then instead of when it froze. I have the idea that they can hear what I say when it freezes, but I can't hear them until it lets go.

Another aspect of it happens to be that when I shut my computer off and on, it sometimes fixes the problem until it happens again usually the next day. This led mean to believe that it might be some form of malware, but the usual scans don't pick up anything at all, so I can't tell if it is or not.

The problem hasn't always been there, and only started within the last (definitely close to) 6 to 9 months, and I've had this computer for years, it was a recent change.

I can't afford another 1600 dollar computer, I honestly just want to find out what the hell is wrong with this one, and fix that. Any help would be appreciated.

Extra Bits: I know that my power supply isn't good, but I know it''s not causing the problem I'm dealing with, and I know I have no SSD, but the computer has never had an SSD and this is a newer problem.

I'm going to keep running tests like... scanning specific folders with Malwarebytes or checking the HDDs I have plugged in for errors, but all I can think of now is going to a professional store and having them fix my computer for a crazy price.

[My Specs]
My current CPU-Z Loadout: https://valid.x86.fr/bxcb8m

My current Cooler: https://www.amazon.com/quiet-Dark-Rock-BK022-Cooler/dp/B07BY6F8D9

My current case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DRVHBWK/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_api_i_zCieFb7FQNWNW?fbclid=IwAR0ko6KcPuMBnFKG9zoMSFPAhNgXMOdAu4fEGtLeANpQL_qKTcu6dyObf08

Current Power Supply:
https://www.amazon.com/Apevia-ATX-SN900-Signature-Certified-Semi-Modular/dp/B08HPS7NRZ/ref=sr_1_2?crid=23YSZV3F5B08S&dchild=1&keywords=apevia+900w&qid=1621495812&sprefix=apevia+9%2Celectronics%2C168&sr=8-2
OR
https://www.amazon.com/Apevia-ATX-SN1050W-Signature-Certified-Modular/dp/B0741RKRY5/ref=sr_1_4?crid=23YSZV3F5B08S&dchild=1&keywords=apevia+900w&qid=1621495851&sprefix=apevia+9%2Celectronics%2C168&sr=8-4
(Can't remember which)

Please help me fix this. All help is appreciated.

[Supafly]

Fact you got a new motherboard all the defragging and malware checking is pointless. You should have wiped and reinstalled your OS then the NEW motherboards drivers. May be corruption or something with the OS

[CursedPanther]

Thicc Squidward původně napsal:

all I can think of now is going to a professional store and having them fix my computer for a crazy price.

Doing a basic checkup routine shouldn't cost you a kidney, unless the store technician does find out the exact source of problem but decides to cheat you with a whole list of fake issues. Still you will have the final say at whether to proceed or not.

[Monk]

I'd start with a fresh install tbh, it will fix most issues, just back up anything you need and wipe everything.

For less than taking your pc to a tech you could buy a small ssd to install your OS onto, which will speed up the general operation of the pc a whole bunch as well.

[Autumn_]

I'm going to agree with the others and say reinstall. If you've done the works and still get unexplained issues, reinstalling is a good bet. If it still occurs then it's hardware related.

Grab an SSD before you do, even a 256GB one will be alright. (ADATA SU800, Samsung 860 Evo/Qvo, Crucial MX500, etc. All good drives, just avoid cheapest stuff you can, as it usually has no DRAM cache and will be as slow as an HDD.)

Oh, and you don't have XMP enabled.

[Baker]

This sounds very strange and well, could you explain this part a bit more?

" later into the evening my computer will lag, however, it will still detect all my inputs and what is happening in the game, and moments later I'll be able to see everything as if I had moved, enemies had moved,"

Not sure I understand how it lags but still detects all inputs and what is happening in the game at the same time?

[emoticorpse]

is Steam open when this happens? see if closing it fixes anything.

[nullable]

If it happens at the same time every day I'd be curious to know what (background) processes are running then. If they're I/O heavy, since you're just running HDDs by the look of it that could be the issue.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

Did you format and reinstall windows with a fresh install using a USB drive?

[Set-115689]

turn off fast start up and shut down/restart the pc? Power and sleep settings/additional power settings/choose what the power buttons do and uncheck the box next to turn on fast startup.

big temperature difference between morning and evening?

is it online stuff only? number of internet users increasing slowing down everyones internet? Qos settings in the router messing up your connection while helping someone elses?

press windows key + x and click on task manager and see whats up it in app history, processes and performance. I think a fresh windows install is about 120 or less processes in performance/cpu.

run userbenchmark and link results webpage?

your pc run offline stuff ok?

If your running hdds then you have to be more careful. Win 10 is going away from hdd usage and into ssd. Expect some jitters here and there. Streamline your pc usage. 5400 rpm drives are annoying and 7200 rpm drives are still ok but some jitters and a bit slower than ssds in normal stuff.

press windows key + x and click on settings. Then updates and security. Click on turn off updates for 7 days. This way you can control when updates are downloaded and stuff. Windows defender updates still seem to download and install.

Can turn off disk optimization and run it manually.

Maybe see what messing with active hours does? might stop stuff trying to do hard drive stuff during active hours?

Press windows key + x and click on settings. then click on privacy. Go through the list and turn off a bunch of stuff. When you get to background apps turn off stuff you don't need.

press windows key and type in advanced and click on view advanced system settings. Then advanced tab and performance. Turn stuff off from the top until show shadows under windows. Should make windows snappier. Adjust for best performance looks bad so I would not do that.

In services you can disable some stuff. but you need to be careful.

Any stuff running like wallpaper engine, background recording apps that record last x minutes of gameplay with a key combo, icue, razer software, etc....

[Illusion of Progress]

Rushing to install Windows fresh is unnecessary IMO. There's other things to check first.

The fact that this is both occurring after extended periods of use or even at set times leads me to believe you should check scheduled tasks (start > type "schedule" and see what is there), and monitor/log temperatures throughout the day. Log running tasks to try and see what spikes during the freezes.

Another possibility is your net rather than your PC. This one is probably more unlikely given some of the symptoms (such as typing becoming unresponsive or slow(, but if the other two turn up no clues, it's worth investigating. Maybe the router is resetting or the net is having issues in your area at certain times of the day.

And yes, probably not causing the issue, but the PSU is pretty awful, and I'd be looking into adding an SSD.

[Supafly]

Illusion of Progress původně napsal:

Rushing to install Windows fresh is unnecessary IMO. There's other things to check first.

Going by the fact OP has been dealing with this for months a fresh OS install would be much faster to do than continuing to troubleshoot. Only if the issue is OS and software based ofcourse but then OP should really have done a fresh OS install anyway when they installed the new motherboard.

[JayKaye]

Thicc Squidward původně napsal:

It still happens every night around 12, or if I leave my computer on long enough. I've defragmented, I've used the Windows Memory Diagnostic (no errors found), I've tried to defragment the disc that has windows on it to no avail, I've scanned my entire computer with Malwarebytes Pro AND Malwarebytes Adwcleaner, and used the repair function of Adwcleaner to repair the registry, I've tested the disc for errors and got nothing. I'm at the end of my rope with this mess.

*snip*

I can't afford another 1600 dollar computer, I honestly just want to find out what the hell is wrong with this one, and fix that. Any help would be appreciated.

This tells me almost everything I need to know. It is a 99.99% chance that it is not hardware-related. Some questions I have to make sure.

1: You said "A 1600 computer", and talked about replacing it as though it were the whole thing. I assume we are talking about a pre-built PC and not a PC you built yourself from scratch?

2: If so, did you install Windows using the disc that came with the pre-built PC as opposed to one you bought or downloaded yourself?

3: Do you have an anti-virus other than Malwarebytes installed or any other "security" software?

4: Do you leave your computer on overnight or shut it down each night?

It sounds to me like there is a scheduled task occurring at night. It could be an antivirus scan, or some other pre-installed garbageware that came with your PC. The easiest way to check would be to look at the Windows Task Scheduler, but you might not be able to recognize what you're looking at.
Antiviruses in general are a scam. They're artifacts of the 90s and early 2000s that have become "security suites" in a desperate bid to stay relevant to the home user, resulting in obscene resource usage when Windows Defender does their job as well or better. Malwarebytes used to be good but that was 10 years ago, and their "adwcleaner" sounds like what they used to be.

For the record, registry cleaners are also a scam. Cleaning the registry does nothing and is actually dangerous. The best they can do is fix phantom start menu and installed program entries.

I can say with confidence that reinstalling windows from a fresh disk, straight from Microsoft and not through a PC seller, would solve your problem faster than diagnosing the specific cause.

[_I_]

ram is not at the xmp profile

get a new ssd for the os, m.2 nvme, install the os on that with the other drives unplugged

get a better psu
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=337,11,14,71&sort=price&A=700000000000,2000000000000&p=1,2&e=4,2

[Overseer]

Run "taskschd.msc" and see if there is anything scheduled at these times. Also check Task Manager -> Startup to see if there is any junk you don't need. Just disable non-MS stuff.

[isomorphic_projection]

Check, your settings. Under windows, metered connection.