how well will 16gb of ram future proof me.

[Retoto]

I am looking to build my 1st pc and was wondering if 16bg would be future proof, or at least how long that will last. I understand that 16gb of RAM is plenty but I was wondering if i could get a 2 slot MB because I do not plan on upgrading soon unless I have to.

[Monk]

JohnMars78 の投稿を引用：

I was assuming a kit of 2x8 GB.
You could as well go for the 2 slot MB + one DIMM of 16GB, if you think it suits you better.

This would cripple performance and be an awful idea.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

TeamGunstar の投稿を引用：

Retoto の投稿を引用：

I am looking to build my 1st pc and was wondering if 16bg would be future proof,

This isn't something ever possible.

I have to agree with this. Future-proofing isn't really a thing. There's always new tech on the horizon that makes future-proofing impossible when you try to do it for real. The best thing you can do is just make your pc adequate for what your current uses are. Then, when that becomes difficult, that's when you start looking at upgrades.That's the proper time to upgrade or add things is when your pc fails to do what you ask of it.
With that said, I would still go 32gb ram and no less. Some games may not quite use that much but what about system and games? What about doing something else while your game is in the pause menu and you tab out? You don't want to wait for storage paging to happen or crash from poorly optimized memory management. What if you download a poorly optimized early-access game? Sometimes those have memory leak or poor memory management and want more ram so you don't crash. You still want your pc to be able to handle these things and more ram is the key.

[Mad Scientist]

TeamGunstar の投稿を引用：

Retoto の投稿を引用：

I am looking to build my 1st pc and was wondering if 16bg would be future proof,

This isn't something ever possible.

It's entirely possible.

It also strongly depends on the task(s) the user wants to do, how many things they want to have open at any given time together, and how big a game is / how well optimized it is. Don't give intentionally bad information.

[Decathect]

Mr. Gentlebot の投稿を引用：

Don't give intentionally bad information.

Its literally impossible to future proof something. Future proof is a straight up lie and you're giving bad information actually.

Tell me in 30 years how 16gb ram is doing for ya. Back in the 90's it was a big deal when we upgraded from 4mb ram to 8mb.

[timltimmy]

I have 32 GB but only because I run VMs too!

[JohnMars78]

Monk の投稿を引用：

JohnMars78 の投稿を引用：

I was assuming a kit of 2x8 GB.
You could as well go for the 2 slot MB + one DIMM of 16GB, if you think it suits you better.

This would cripple performance and be an awful idea.

I'm aware of it. Cripple, however, is too strong a word for the performance drop from dual to single channel RAM.
Going back to the OP - what do you expect from your PC other than playing games?
Why a 2 slot MB? Budget constrictions?
More toward the "future proofing" idea would be to leave yourself an upgrade possibility, get a 4 slot MB and a 2x8GB kit now, keeping the cost lower with no performance hit.
Wanna stick to a 2 slot, you should get 32GB now if you want "future proof" and no upgrade in the future.
Then again, 2 slot + 16GB RAM might be all you ever need.
I have no way of knowing for sure what resources certain games will require 3 years from now or if you decide to use your PC for something that will require more than 16GB.

[dOBER]

16GB is today not plenty. I had for over 5 years 32gb but recently i went back to 16gb very fast ram. It was clearly not worth since i crashed multible times in multible games with "not enough memory". Yes demanding games will use only ~12gb with windows but when i open my browser with lots of tabs its clearly not enough and i am used to do this and its need for my main game. So i will sacriface speed for another 16gb to get my 32gb back since 16gb is not enough.

[Illusion of Progress]

Without knowing your uses, nobody can answer. It's not strictly a one size fits all thing.

I had 16 GB in 2011, when 4 GB wasn't seen as too little, and 8 GB was firmly a lot/becoming the sweet spot. For the last couple of years, it's been barely enough (but, that's simply for me).

For gaming/general use, it's mostly fine for most people. But, some particular games, mods, and/or heavy multi-tasking, it might be enough but barely. On the other hand, 8 GB is still enough for some.

If you don't know if you need 32 GB yet, you're most likely fine getting 16 GB right now, but I would NOT recommend pushing yourself into the corner and getting a board with 2 slots. Reason being, if 16 GB ends up being restricting for you, you can simply add another 16 GB (which won't cost too much more versus having just gotten 32 GB to begin with), but if you only have 2 slots, you'll have to replace it entirely, then sell the old stuff to try to recoup just some of the difference.

[Mad Scientist]

TeamGunstar の投稿を引用：

Mr. Gentlebot の投稿を引用：

Don't give intentionally bad information.

Its literally impossible to future proof something. Future proof is a straight up lie and you're giving bad information actually.

Tell me in 30 years how 16gb ram is doing for ya. Back in the 90's it was a big deal when we upgraded from 4mb ram to 8mb.

The task any user wants to do will determine if it's still feasible, future proofing is just making it in the next generation or two. For example, my video card is largely future proof because it has a high amount of VRAM for my tasks.

It varies per user, you have little to no idea and just want to say No with no realistic thought on the highly dependent nature of "it depends on the task the user wants to do" as mentioned by a few competent people.

If the task is above a certain point, 16GB is not future proof, but if the user has tasks that almost always use far less than 16GBs, it''s entirely realistic and future proof.

Seriously, don't just take a swing in the dark without any thought into something with an absurd reply.

[Decathect]

Mr. Gentlebot の投稿を引用：

Seriously, don't just take a swing in the dark without any thought into something with an absurd reply.

Take you own advice for that.

Literally everyone other than yourself apparently, know its impossible to futureproof in tech. Technology moves at much too rapid of a pace.

I'll say it slower so you understand...ready?...You...can't...futureproof...when....building...a....pc....period.

[Darkstorn]

TeamGunstar の投稿を引用：

Mr. Gentlebot の投稿を引用：

Seriously, don't just take a swing in the dark without any thought into something with an absurd reply.

Take you own advice for that.

Literally everyone other than yourself apparently, know its impossible to futureproof in tech. Technology moves at much too rapid of a pace.

I'll say it slower so you understand...ready?...You...can't...futureproof...when....building...a....pc....period.

I think you should take that guy's advice.

It's possible to future proof in technology. Whether or not it's feasible depends on your use-scenario. 16GB is "future proof" for someone. But for me it's not even "current proof."

In my opinion specifically doing something just for the sake of "future proofing" is dumb. Now, whether or not you want to, or even can, future proof your PC for your use scenario, of course you can and should do that.

You going around saying "future proofing is impossible" is not evidence for it. it's a claim. That you have failed to support.

Here it is one more time:

You can future proof when building a PC. PROVE me wrong.

[Darkstorn]

Here's future-proofing my argument:

"Future-proofing is the process of anticipating the future and developing methods of minimizing the effects of shocks and stresses of future events" according to Wikipedia.

It's an abstract concept, and it's not about whether it works or not. it refers to the action of ATTEMPTING to ANTICIPATE.

Which is not only doable, should be at least considered. In all actions.

Otherwise every event will surprise you.

Now, an example: You buy a laptop expecting it to future-proof your use scenario. Then in a year you realize it's not enough for your use-scenario after all. This will result in you failing to anticipate the future.

Another example: You buy a laptop expecting it to future-proof your use scenario. Then in a year you realize it's not only enough, but enough for many more years for your use-scenario. This will result in you succeeding to anticipate the future.

Simply: People who are happy with their purchase down the line, several years from it, are not only future-proofing themselves, but also succeeding at it. Whereas people who AREN'T happy with their purchases down the line, several years from it, merely attempted it and failed.

It really is this simple. 100% anticipation of the future IS impossible, of course. But you can still perform the action of future-proofing.

Whether it's feasible, dumb, insane, awesome or whatever, depends on many things, mostly the user and their use-scenario. But it's definitely not _impossible_.

Now, i WILL be shocked if you manage to regurgitate an intelligent reply to this.

[Decathect]

>< Darkstorn の投稿を引用：

Now, i WILL be shocked if you manage to regurgitate an intelligent reply to this.

Sure, you're absolutely wrong. Thats it, congrats on wasting your time spewing out nonsense.

You can't build a PC today, that will be good in 60 years. Impossible.

The end.

[dOBER]

TeamGunstar の投稿を引用：

>< Darkstorn の投稿を引用：

Now, i WILL be shocked if you manage to regurgitate an intelligent reply to this.

Sure, you're absolutely wrong. Thats it, congrats on wasting your time spewing out nonsense.

You can't build a PC today, that will be good in 60 years. Impossible.

The end. :dsfist:

No one will argue with you about 60 years but who on earth said future means 60 years ? Its only YOU ! If somone says he wants to build my pc future proof and buys 32gb system ram for next 5 years to make sure this will be still fine in 5 years ? Right 5 years is future aswell. Who said future is only 30/50 whatever years. So no its not impossible at all because future could mean everything and no one thinks about 60 years if he buys a pc now and want to make it future proof.

[Decathect]

dOBER の投稿を引用：

No one will argue with you about 60 years

Duh.

dOBER の投稿を引用：

If somone says he wants to build my pc future proof and buys 32gb system ram for next 5 years to make sure this will be still fine in 5 years ?

Thats not future proof. Thats good for the next 5 years.

dOBER の投稿を引用：

Who said future is only 30/50 whatever years.

Future proof. Good for now plus the future, all of it. 10 years, 30 years, 100 years...and thats not possible, so no future proof.

dOBER の投稿を引用：

So no its not impossible at all

Yes it is.

dOBER の投稿を引用：

he buys a pc now and want to make it future proof.

Again thats impossible.