[Q] Ryzen 5900x, RTX 3080, 32GB RAM Performance for SC

[Malevelon Krieg]

I'm thinking of upgrading my PC for gaming and video rendering. I'm currently on i7-6700k, RTX2070, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD

I read that Star Citizen benefits from the extra cores/threads and 32GB RAM. Saw a video where all the cores were around equal load. The 5900X doesn't bottleneck as bad when paired with the RTX3080 either. The 3090 is way over budget for me.

Here are the specs
- CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X @ 4.8GHz (12 Cores | 24 Threads)
- Mobo: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite
- GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3080 Eagle OC
- RAM: 32GB Klevv BOLT XR 3600 Mhz (16x2)
- SSD: 512GB Samsung SSD (R: 3500, W: 2900)
- PSU: 750W Superflower LEADEX III 80+ Gold Certified PSU
- Monitor: PRISM+ X340 PRO 144HZ 1MS (3440X1440)

Other games I'm playing include Rainbow Six: Siege and Squad to name a few. Games I plan on playing are Warhammer 40k: Darktide, Back 4 Blood, Outriders, Dead Redemption 2, Cyberpunk 2077, etc

Please critique on the build, and how it will perform in Star Citzien. I've seen some videos on it and it looks decent. But I wanna ask the community directly waht their thoughts are and their day-to-day experience with the game is like..

(NOTE: I am not looking to build a rig around Star Citizen cos I know its not even close to being finished orotpmized. By the time this game launches, new tech will be avaialbe and possibly even required to run the game decently. This is just a rig I am thinking of building to last me the next 4-5 years.)

[Monk]

Never heard of that ram, so I'll simply suggest you make sure you get Samsung b-die memory (and the basic suggestion here is patriot viper steel series, its cheap and crazy good value), I'd suggest getting a 4000MHz kit and adjusting speeds to match your fabric, if you end up with 4 sticks, go with an Asus board, but getting Samsung b-die definetly seems to help on zen3.

If you can, I'd push to the 5950X, the 8 cores before the fabric get involved definetly seems to help it in games and for editing more cores will be better, at the same time, might as well get a pcie4 nvme to use as an editing scratch drive, it's the one area it's extra speed is beneficial.

If you plan to do any overclocking or tinkering (watercooling with power mods etc), I'd probably go to an 850w psu and make sure the gpu is a 3 pin card, or stick with founders, they are the best value by miles and seem to clock great, just like previous generations.

For the monitor, again, not heard of that one, if I was buying a new monitor I'd want to make sure it had gsync and hdr as they both really help the experience.

How it will perform in sc is down to the servers on any given day for now, but should be fine.

For cyberpunk you won't be maxing it with a 3080 at high refresh, but with minor tweaks you'll get it running great at a good 70-80fps (with dlss) if they have fixed the oddities of ryzen which I think they have now.

As for the rest, as long as there are no annomolies it should play great it's a high end system at the end of the day.

[CursedPanther]

I'm guessing OP is from Singapore? That would explain the few regional brands in the list. Other than that the rest of the list is near top tier already without breaking the bank.

Messaggio originale di Monk:

If you can, I'd push to the 5950X, the 8 cores before the fabric get involved definetly seems to help it in games and for editing more cores will be better

While technically true, unless OP can hold off the purchase to a much later date this year the current scalped prices of higher up Zen 3 models completely throw the performance to price ratio straight outta the window that one may as well reconsider Intel for a semi-professional workstation. The issue right now is that TSMC isn't exactly agreeing to increase production rate for AMD becuz it's also dealing with the new demands of Sony, which also happens to be one big 7nm fab family. Things aren't looking up at least till there are first signs of the pandemic being under control.

[Malevelon Krieg]

Messaggio originale di Monk:

Never heard of that ram...

...get a pcie4 nvme to use as an editing scratch drive...

...I'd probably go to an 850w psu...

For the monitor, again, not heard of that one...

Thank you for your in-depth response, really appreciate your time in this.

So, most of the brands are a local Singapore brand. The parts I'm getting are from a pre-defined list of items I can pick to "build my own
custom PC" -- I used to always build my own, but they offer an onsite pickup/repair/delivery option that I need with my busy work schedule, as such they are not offering a 4000MHz RAM 🙁

Anywho, I've read up more on the Gen4 NVMes and will be getting a 1TB Gen4 SSD to take advantage of the PCIe 4 slots of the X570 board. So good suggestion that one!

Secondly, I do not plan on overclocking. But I've read conflicting reports where people recommend the 850W PSU over a 750W one? Now I'm unsure which to get. The price difference is US$22.50. and i'd rather save as much money as I can. lol

Messaggio originale di CursedPanther:

unless OP can hold off the purchase to a much later date this year the current scalped prices of higher up Zen 3 models completely throw the performance to price ratio straight outta the window

Should I do that then? Should I wait? I read that DDR5 is coming out either late or early this year. The reason why I need to upgrade is that my mobo GPU slot is damaged. I get random ass system crashes for all other games, except L4D2 (lel), SWTOR (More LELs), and Star Citizen. If I had a choice, I wouldn't upgrade at all 😆

I am VERY comfortable with my current setup.

[Monk]

That is true, once your close to 1000 for a 5959x an x299 10980XE or even a 10960 makes alot of sense if you'll be doing alot of editing and it will push 3440x1440 perfectly, plus you gain pcie lanes and 4 channel memory, sadly, looses pcie4.

Intel really needs to update its HEDT line up.

[Monk]

Have you considered just buying a new mobo then and holding out until there's a bigger reason to upgrade? That's alot of money if you don't feel you need it really.

[CursedPanther]

Messaggio originale di Nomad:

Messaggio originale di CursedPanther:

unless OP can hold off the purchase to a much later date this year the current scalped prices of higher up Zen 3 models completely throw the performance to price ratio straight outta the window

Should I do that then? Should I wait? I read that DDR5 is coming out either late or early this year. The reason why I need to upgrade is that my mobo GPU slot is damaged. I get random ass system crashes for all other games, except L4D2 (lel), SWTOR (More LELs), and Star Citizen. If I had a choice, I wouldn't upgrade at all 😆

Damaged physically? Cuz game crashing can have a dozen reasons behind it.

[Malevelon Krieg]

Messaggio originale di Monk:

Have you considered just buying a new mobo then and holding out until there's a bigger reason to upgrade? That's alot of money if you don't feel you need it really.

You know, I am actually extremely reluctant and frankly not interested in upgrade my current system at all. It's serving me very well. It's more along the line of, "well ♥♥♥♥, I gotta get a new part and since my build is at least 4 years old I might as well overhaul."

But in reality, it seems that an overhaul is really not worth it? I'd be spending about US$3390 on a that doesnt offer much performance gains...

Messaggio originale di CursedPanther:

Damaged physically? Cuz game crashing can have a dozen reasons behind it.

Yeah, it could be a dozen other things. But I'm really outta ideas on how to fix it.

I've reformatted at least 4 times. My system doesnt lock up and crash if i'm just surfing the web, netflix-ing, etc. Hell, it doesnt even crash on SWTOR, L4D2 and Star Citizen. But it used to. Then it fixed itself... and now its crashing like mad when I play Phasmophobia. But before that, it was playing the game fine.

♥♥♥♥, now you got me thinking... if it really isnt the mobo, then even if i buy a new mobo it wont solve the issue. So I might as well do a full overhaul?! LMAO. Damn!

[Lord Flashheart]

My suggestion if practical is to go or 64GB memory in 4 sticks.
Apparently 4 sticks can still provide a performance benefit in a dual channel system.

Also 64GB would be better than 32GB for video rendering.

Oh and 512GB storage for games will soon be an issue.

[CursedPanther]

Messaggio originale di Nomad:

Messaggio originale di CursedPanther:

Damaged physically? Cuz game crashing can have a dozen reasons behind it.

Yeah, it could be a dozen other things. But I'm really outta ideas on how to fix it.

I've reformatted at least 4 times. My system doesnt lock up and crash if i'm just surfing the web, netflix-ing, etc. Hell, it doesnt even crash on SWTOR, L4D2 and Star Citizen. But it used to. Then it fixed itself... and now its crashing like mad when I play Phasmophobia. But before that, it was playing the game fine.

Does your system have everything installed on that one SSD including the OS? Does the PC crashes if you're not playing games? It would be handy if you spare parts lying around to further nail down the issue, but in case you don't then I think it maybe better to find a local repair shop to figure it out. It could turn out you only need one faulty part replaced, and definitely far better to spend thousands of dollars on something you don't actually need anytime soon.

Messaggio originale di Nomad:

♥♥♥♥, now you got me thinking... if it really isnt the mobo, then even if i buy a new mobo it wont solve the issue. So I might as well do a full overhaul?! LMAO. Damn!

It's a damn bad time to make a full upgrade. Surely you can go ahead if you have the spare money and it really is a work related emergency, just so it happens you'll be financing the scalping operations that is preying on people's desperateness.

[Monk]

Buy a mobo off amazon, see if it fixes the issue, if it doesn't, return it, fix will cost couple hundred at worse abd you won't feel sicker punched trying to buy with crazy price hikes everywhere.

Edit.
I know what you mean about not wanting to upgrade an old system as it feels like a waste, but, it can be the sensible option.

[Guydodge]

Messaggio originale di Nomad:

Messaggio originale di Monk:

Have you considered just buying a new mobo then and holding out until there's a bigger reason to upgrade? That's alot of money if you don't feel you need it really.

You know, I am actually extremely reluctant and frankly not interested in upgrade my current system at all. It's serving me very well. It's more along the line of, "well ♥♥♥♥, I gotta get a new part and since my build is at least 4 years old I might as well overhaul."

But in reality, it seems that an overhaul is really not worth it? I'd be spending about US$3390 on a that doesnt offer much performance gains...

Messaggio originale di CursedPanther:

Damaged physically? Cuz game crashing can have a dozen reasons behind it.

Yeah, it could be a dozen other things. But I'm really outta ideas on how to fix it.

I've reformatted at least 4 times. My system doesnt lock up and crash if i'm just surfing the web, netflix-ing, etc. Hell, it doesnt even crash on SWTOR, L4D2 and Star Citizen. But it used to. Then it fixed itself... and now its crashing like mad when I play Phasmophobia. But before that, it was playing the game fine.

♥♥♥♥, now you got me thinking... if it really isnt the mobo, then even if i buy a new mobo it wont solve the issue. So I might as well do a full overhaul?! LMAO. Damn!

the build your thinking about would be a big performace boost
i owned a i7 6700k and was overclocked to 4.8ghz as much as people like to believe
its as good as say a 8 core at the same clock its not even close.
with that being said have you tried a fresh new install of windows ? it
can bring alot of life back to a PC.if its been a while.you may fix alot
of the issues you speak of.

and absolutely go with a 850watt PSU i can run over 600watts with 9900k
w/o.c @5.2ghz and a 3080

[Malevelon Krieg]

Feb-12-2021: My rig has arrived, and here are the FPS numbers that I recall from the top of my head:

New Babbage Habitat Area: 40-60 FPS
New Babbage Club: 30-45 FPS
Out in Space: 70-80 FPS
XenoThreat Phase 3, Part 1: 50-60 FPS
XenoThreat Phase 3, Part 2: 20-30 FPS
890 Jump Mission: 40-50 FPS

Settings are on Very High @ 3440x1440

The game went from laggy and unplayable to fairly playable. There were some frame drops during the climax of the Phase 3 event, but it was definitely manageable.

This game is gorgeous. I am absolutely in awe as to how detailed the environment is. and the XT event... It was such a joy to see the whole server working together and striving for a common goal. It was amazing. I was compelled to put together a short video of the event, anyone interested can check it out below:

https://youtu.be/TLVrttSSLvw