50%+ RAM Usage = Crash

[Deathwing1306]

Hey, I am having a problem for some time and I don't know what to do. The problem is that if my RAM usage exceeds 50%~ anything that I have opened (Google Chrome or any newer game) just closes. Sometimes I even get a blue screen with error code MEMORY_MANAGEMENT. Is the problem with my RAM modules and do I have to replace them or is something else wrong ?

Happening with Forza Horizon 4, Battlefield V, sometimes even lower demanding games.

Thanks.

PC Specs:

MB: ASUS PRIME A520M-A
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500X, 3.6GHz
GPU: AMD SAPPHIRE RADEON NITRO+ RX 5700 XT BE 8GB
RAM: Adata XPG Gammix D10, 16GB (2x8GB), 3200MHz, CL16
SSD: Adata XPG SX8200 Pro, 1TB
PSU: Be quiet! Straight Power 11, 750W 80PLUS GOLD

[nullable]

Try running Memtest86 or Memtest64, it's possible you just have bad RAM and when you hit certain memory addresses, kablooey.

If it is bad RAM you'll need to replace/RMA the RAM.

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

Try running Memtest86 or Memtest64, it's possible you just have bad RAM and when you hit certain memory addresses, kablooey.

If it is bad RAM you'll need to replace/RMA the RAM.

So I have tried the MemTest64, did 2 loops and this is what is says: https://imgur.com/a/27gZkKI

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

Try running Memtest86 or Memtest64, it's possible you just have bad RAM and when you hit certain memory addresses, kablooey.

If it is bad RAM you'll need to replace/RMA the RAM.

So I have tried the MemTest64, did 2 loops and this is what is says: https://imgur.com/a/27gZkKI

Yeah you're getting memory errors, you need to get new RAM, because long term tests on MT64 can run for days, months, years without errors on "good" RAM.

[nullable]

Agreed. Nothing you can do to resolve defective RAM besides replace it. You can test each stick individually, it's likely you've only got one bad stick. So you can survive on 8GB for a few days methinks.

[Deathwing1306]

So is it 100% my RAM ? Can't it be like motherboard or anything else ? I am wondering about buying new ones if it's RAM so I want to make sure.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

So is it 100% my RAM ? Can't it be like motherboard or anything else ? I am wondering about buying new ones if it's RAM so I want to make sure.

It can really only be the RAM.

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by Escorve:

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

So is it 100% my RAM ? Can't it be like motherboard or anything else ? I am wondering about buying new ones if it's RAM so I want to make sure.

It can really only be the RAM.

Alright then. I was just wondering if it couldn't be like some kind of bad connection between motherboard and RAM or something like that. Thanks.

[Deathwing1306]

Thanks to everyone for helping me !

[Illusion of Progress]

Well, there's no point in trying to reseat RAM (and possibly using the other two slots on the motherboard in the process) since it costs you nothing but the time, but if the issue persists, yes, it's bad RAM.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

So is it 100% my RAM ? Can't it be like motherboard or anything else ? I am wondering about buying new ones if it's RAM so I want to make sure.

If you want to be thorough test each stick individually. RAM can be defective. And it's a lot more plausible that you've just got a bad stick than some other bit of hardware being the true cause and it's manifesting itself with a false positive in the form of memory errors. I mean you can keep it on the table if you want. But you'd want to rule out defective RAM before you seriously consider far fetched options.

[r.linder]

It may even be that the RAM itself is not defective, rather that Ryzen won't work well with it.

Ryzen commonly has the most problems with Micron ICs, mixed results with SK Hynix ICs, and the best results with Samsung ICs. ADATA's kits for the most part are one of three IC makers: Nanya, Micron, and SK Hynix. Your kit is most likely Hynix, and most of the GAMMIX kits are on the A520M-A's QVL, so those kits have been tested and confirmed working for the most part.

A lot of RAM kits tend to have issues with Ryzen for seemingly no reason even though they worked in another system, such as if you switch platforms from Intel to AMD and keep the same RAM or buy a used kit of RAM that was confirmed working.

Running 4 DIMMs also puts more stress on the memory controller, so even if the RAM itself is fine, the CPU's integrated memory controller (IMC) may not be able to handle the settings. That being said, this is a 2x8 3200 CL16 kit we're talking about, with a Zen2 processor on an A520, but it was worth mentioning because in some cases it's not JUST the RAM. But it realistically should be the RAM in this case.

[_I_]

memtest86+ is not needed, a version is on the recovery boot for win10
you can also disable fast boot in bios to force a ram test on the next boot

MEMORY_MANAGEMENT is not always a ram issue
its more likely a problem with how its managed
get the correct mobo/chipset drivers from the mobo site, and gpu drivers from amd/nvidia/intel

the 5700xt gpus need the latest driver to prevent crashing

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by _I_:

memtest86+ is not needed, a version is on the recovery boot for win10
you can also disable fast boot in bios to force a ram test on the next boot

MEMORY_MANAGEMENT is not always a ram issue
its more likely a problem with how its managed
get the correct mobo/chipset drivers from the mobo site, and gpu drivers from amd/nvidia/intel

the 5700xt gpus need the latest driver to prevent crashing

I am keeping my GPU drivers up to date every time. I even updated BIOS to newer version.

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by Escorve:

It may even be that the RAM itself is not defective, rather that Ryzen won't work well with it.

Ryzen commonly has the most problems with Micron ICs, mixed results with SK Hynix ICs, and the best results with Samsung ICs. ADATA's kits for the most part are one of three IC makers: Nanya, Micron, and SK Hynix. Your kit is most likely Hynix, and most of the GAMMIX kits are on the A520M-A's QVL, so those kits have been tested and confirmed working for the most part.

A lot of RAM kits tend to have issues with Ryzen for seemingly no reason even though they worked in another system, such as if you switch platforms from Intel to AMD and keep the same RAM or buy a used kit of RAM that was confirmed working.

Running 4 DIMMs also puts more stress on the memory controller, so even if the RAM itself is fine, the CPU's integrated memory controller (IMC) may not be able to handle the settings. That being said, this is a 2x8 3200 CL16 kit we're talking about, with a Zen2 processor on an A520, but it was worth mentioning because in some cases it's not JUST the RAM. But it realistically should be the RAM in this case.

Basically I have no idea what you are saying, but thanks for telling me lol. The very last sentence was the most helpful from all of this for me :D

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

So is it 100% my RAM ? Can't it be like motherboard or anything else ? I am wondering about buying new ones if it's RAM so I want to make sure.

If you want to be thorough test each stick individually. RAM can be defective. And it's a lot more plausible that you've just got a bad stick than some other bit of hardware being the true cause and it's manifesting itself with a false positive in the form of memory errors. I mean you can keep it on the table if you want. But you'd want to rule out defective RAM before you seriously consider far fetched options.

I might try to remove one module and then the other one and also place them to different slots later, but I am not sure if it helps :D Thanks for the tip.