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Your opinion about Windows 11
So if you have followed the tech news in the last couple of weeks, you might have heard about the new Windows 11 leak, and the unofficial ,,leaked" version. And about a week later, Microsoft officially announced windows 11 at their digital Windows event.
So i want to ask whats your opinion about Windows 11
Do you think it is just windows 10.5 with a Linx wannabe reskin.
Or will you get upset because microsoft is ruining windows and you will switch to linux instead?
Very interesting topic imo.
最近の変更はDer tüddelige Fußgängerが行いました; 2021年7月6日 10時55分
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Omega 2021年6月23日 23時38分 
littlecat20160 の投稿を引用:
here is the link . please someone to comment on my post to get the link visible !
https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/windows-11-performance-benchmarks,3370959.html

edit
this is my second account and apparently it s restricted
The leaked disk image is that of a pre-release version of Windows 11. It may have stuff such as CPU bug mitigations disabled which can examplain the differences in performance. And less bloatware could also help a bit.
A&A 2021年6月24日 2時42分 
littlecat20160 の投稿を引用:
leaks
Windows 11 vs Windows 10
GPU 5-6% faster
CPU - up to 30% increase
Wait a second
This is not true

Windows 11 is Windows 10 with changed themes and between 0 - (-3%) worse CPU performance
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mtono 2021年6月24日 3時09分 
A&A (Ghost Warrior} の投稿を引用:
littlecat20160 の投稿を引用:
leaks
Windows 11 vs Windows 10
GPU 5-6% faster
CPU - up to 30% increase
Wait a second
This is not true

Windows 11 is Windows 10 with changed themes and between 0 - (-3%) worse CPU performance
i think that a more energetic(mostly newer) operating system runs slower with ancient hardware and in about 5 years the pc technique runs twice as fast from today...roundabout. so where is the problem anyway? it is just my idea, which i think is true. i am sorry. i don't want to be offensive.
my2ct
A&A 2021年6月24日 4時33分 
And what is the difference between win 7 and win 10
Nothing in performance

And what is the difference between win 10 and win 11
Nothing in performance
Check in youtube
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AD 2021年6月24日 5時21分 
Kaye の投稿を引用:
littlecat20160 の投稿を引用:
leaks
Windows 11 vs Windows 10
GPU 5-6% faster
CPU - up to 30% increase
Sounds like absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to me. Changing your OS doesn't magically make your hardware do more calculations per second.
I heard someone say that the thread scheduler was updated with a better algorithm or something like that, which could theoretically improve performance for certain kinds of work (like maybe a program gets more CPU time now, so it seems to perform better). But unless the previous one had some serious performance issues, I doubt it will universally make everything perform better. One possibility is that they just took the best test and leaked that for marketing purposes.

Of course, since it was just something I heard someone say it could be completely incorrect as well.
最近の変更はADが行いました; 2021年6月24日 5時22分
AD の投稿を引用:
Kaye の投稿を引用:
Sounds like absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to me. Changing your OS doesn't magically make your hardware do more calculations per second.
I heard someone say that the thread scheduler was updated with a better algorithm or something like that, which could theoretically improve performance for certain kinds of work (like maybe a program gets more CPU time now, so it seems to perform better). But unless the previous one had some serious performance issues, I doubt it will universally make everything perform better. One possibility is that they just took the best test and leaked that for marketing purposes.

Of course, since it was just something I heard someone say it could be completely incorrect as well.
Windows 10's scheduler performs about as well as any of the available Linux schedulers and I seriously doubt MS came up with some fantastic new way of CPU scheduling. The only thing I can think of that makes sense that would increase cpu performance is if W11 gets rid of the retarded "core parking" thing W10 likes to do.
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A&A 2021年6月24日 5時28分 
AD の投稿を引用:
Kaye の投稿を引用:
Sounds like absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to me. Changing your OS doesn't magically make your hardware do more calculations per second.
I heard someone say that the thread scheduler was updated with a better algorithm or something like that, which could theoretically improve performance for certain kinds of work (like maybe a program gets more CPU time now, so it seems to perform better). But unless the previous one had some serious performance issues, I doubt it will universally make everything perform better. One possibility is that they just took the best test and leaked that for marketing purposes.

Of course, since it was just something I heard someone say it could be completely incorrect as well.


https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/06/20/windows-11-is-apparently-faster-than-windows-10/

https://www.techspot.com/article/2278-windows-11-benchmark/

Also for one of the most faked beanchmark videos https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11-appears-outperform-windows-10-huge-margin?amp

How that is good when it is based on windows 10 old stuff, also windows update and nowdays drivers are working on windows 11
No real reason W10 drivers wouldn't work on W11. W7 drivers still work on W10 for the most part.

This all sounds like a marketing campaign honestly. I will of course be upgrading to W11 because I already don't trust W10 with my personal data, additional spying means nothing to me. But for baby ducks who use W10 or even W7 as their main OS, stick with it til you can't anymore.
最近の変更はJayKayeが行いました; 2021年6月24日 5時35分
AD 2021年6月24日 5時36分 
Kaye の投稿を引用:
AD の投稿を引用:
I heard someone say that the thread scheduler was updated with a better algorithm or something like that, which could theoretically improve performance for certain kinds of work (like maybe a program gets more CPU time now, so it seems to perform better). But unless the previous one had some serious performance issues, I doubt it will universally make everything perform better. One possibility is that they just took the best test and leaked that for marketing purposes.

Of course, since it was just something I heard someone say it could be completely incorrect as well.
Windows 10's scheduler performs about as well as any of the available Linux schedulers. The only thing I can think of that makes sense that would increase cpu performance is if W11 gets rid of the retarded "core parking" thing W10 likes to do.
It was just something I heard, and I more meant to speculate on a theoretical level then say Windows 11 has better performance then Windows 10. As I said, even if it can perform 30% better on something I really, really doubt that happens for everything. We might even have 30% less performance on another thing they don't mention. Best way to know is to wait and see when it comes out, because these numbers are probably just marketing.
A&A 2021年6月24日 6時17分 
Kaye の投稿を引用:
No real reason W10 drivers wouldn't work on W11. W7 drivers still work on W10 for the most part.

This all sounds like a marketing campaign honestly. I will of course be upgrading to W11 because I already don't trust W10 with my personal data, additional spying means nothing to me. But for baby ducks who use W10 or even W7 as their main OS, stick with it til you can't anymore.

As l said, l would move to Linux



AD の投稿を引用:
Kaye の投稿を引用:
Windows 10's scheduler performs about as well as any of the available Linux schedulers. The only thing I can think of that makes sense that would increase cpu performance is if W11 gets rid of the retarded "core parking" thing W10 likes to do.
It was just something I heard, and I more meant to speculate on a theoretical level then say Windows 11 has better performance then Windows 10. As I said, even if it can perform 30% better on something I really, really doubt that happens for everything. We might even have 30% less performance on another thing they don't mention. Best way to know is to wait and see when it comes out, because these numbers are probably just marketing.

If you watched that somewhere in youtube, the chance is 100%, you can change the power plan from "Reccomended" to "High Performance" opps, free performance

Also l m laughting at this even if it s old
https://www.zdnet.com/article/anonymous-msft-developer-admits-linux-is-faster-than-windows/
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plat 2021年6月24日 6時21分 
Yes, well stated, we simply can't apply a benchmark in one use-scenario to everybody. That's just ridiculous.

As soon as the new Windows comes out officially, I'm installing it. 10 is starting to feel a little clunky with all the different styles and UIs, it's nasty to navigate at times.
A&A 2021年6月24日 6時44分 
Linux is faster with

Linux has less resource requirements because by default it runs with less default running services than Windows.

Switching processes is faster on Linux, so it can take better advantage of I/O wait time and user response time to get things done in the background.

Creating processes is much faster on Linux. Linux uses subprocesses for things that Windows programs have to use threads for. It’s simply a better and more efficient way to use resources in a lot of cases.

But

Windows is objectively faster because the hardware it’s running on and the Kernel-level software - so, drivers - that it uses to interface with said hardware is all optimized for Windows thanks to its unquestionable market dominance

Use it, and 6 month later, everyone feels it slows down with their Windows, a lot of temp filles

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A&A (Ghost Warrior} の投稿を引用:
Linux is faster with

Linux has less resource requirements because by default it runs with less default running services than Windows.

Switching processes is faster on Linux, so it can take better advantage of I/O wait time and user response time to get things done in the background.

Creating processes is much faster on Linux. Linux uses subprocesses for things that Windows programs have to use threads for. It’s simply a better and more efficient way to use resources in a lot of cases.

But

Windows is objectively faster because the hardware it’s running on and the Kernel-level software - so, drivers - that it uses to interface with said hardware is all optimized for Windows thanks to its unquestionable market dominance

Use it, and 6 month later, everyone feels it slows down with their Windows, a lot of temp filles

totally agree.
Before i got my gaming pc, i just had a cheap laptop with an intel celeron n3060, 4gb ddr3 ram, and of course the os installed on an 1tb hdd. yes hdd your eyes were correct.
windows 10 which came preinstalled was basically unusable. I especially noticed it when i wanted to install an sd card formatter, because my new pc doesn't have a slot for sd cards and the laptop crashed just by having microsoft edge open and installing a formatter.
Now i have ubuntu lts 20,04 and it is still slow, but i can consider it usable.
Firefox starts in about 5 seconds instead of edge which took about a minute on windows.
It really blows my mind seeing how fast ubuntu is even on such low end hardware.
And don't forget, that you basically don't need an anti-virus on linux/ubuntu, because it is just so much more secure.
A&A (Ghost Warrior} の投稿を引用:
And what is the difference between win 7 and win 10
Nothing in performance

And what is the difference between win 10 and win 11
Nothing in performance
Check in youtube

No there are major differences in OS Desktop performance with 7 vs 10.
7 doesn't exactly come to a screeching halt all the time like 10 will when the OS is installed to a HDD. Win10 is pretty much un-usable unless on some sort of SSD. Sure, once you get Win10 to stop clogging up your CPU and Network connection; yes the performance in things like Gaming, you generally would not see differences here when comparing one OS to another; 7 / 8 / 8.1 / 10 / 11

Why? Because all the games really care about is having available access to CPU + RAM + Disk + Drivers + API Runtimes. The OS Kernel backbone doesn't exactly play a noticeable role in things such as Gaming Performance.
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A&A (Ghost Warrior} の投稿を引用:
And what is the difference between win 7 and win 10
Nothing in performance

And what is the difference between win 10 and win 11
Nothing in performance
Check in youtube

On my laptop , there is a huge difference . The FPS are nearly doubled . On Windows 7 - 8FPS , on Windows 10 -16FPS . The game was playable only on Windows 10 !

i3 2350M
GT 520MX 1GB
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 RAM
500GB hdd

The increase of video performance was due to better memory management . Memory compression freed space for the game to run .
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