10th gen not compatible with M.2 SSD?

[Drystoner]

I was about to order, then I read this compatibility note at the bottom of PC Part Picker.

"The motherboard M.2 slot #1 requires an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU. When an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU is not used, the M.2 slot is disabled."

Does that mean that I have to get an 11th gen i5 in order for the SSD to work?

Parts: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ppMG8J

[nullable]

For that motherboard maybe.

It's clearly stated on the tech specs for the motherboard. If you want to use a 10th gen CPU and both m.2 slots, get a different motherboard, or get an 11th gen i5. Otherwise you'll be limited to one PCI-E 3.0 x4 m.2 slot.

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-B560-PLUS/techspec/

[Magma Dragoon]

that slot cannot be used without an 11th gen CPU, any other other slots can be used

[Drystoner]

Originally posted by Magma Dragoon:

that slot cannot be used without an 11th gen CPU, any other other slots can be used

So I can use the bottom slots fine?

[Magma Dragoon]

Originally posted by Riff:

Originally posted by Magma Dragoon:

that slot cannot be used without an 11th gen CPU, any other other slots can be used

So I can use the bottom slots fine?

Yes, though the middle slot is a 2230 slot which only go up to 512gb so they are basically useless for desktops.

[Drystoner]

Originally posted by Magma Dragoon:

Originally posted by Riff:

So I can use the bottom slots fine?

Yes, though the middle slot is a 2230 slot which only go up to 512gb so they are basically useless for desktops.

So it's only the middle slot that doesn't support 1TB right? This whole nvme SSD slot thing is new to me. I've been using SATA for the longest time.

[Agent]

Detail about your motherboard memory: "10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7/i9 processors support 2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 MHz natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz."

Scummy intel as always. It seems your i5 will only support 2666 MHz memory. You might be better off just getting a Ryzen 5 3rd generation.

[Drystoner]

Originally posted by Rock Head:

Detail about your motherboard memory: "10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7/i9 processors support 2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 MHz natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz."

Scummy intel as always. It seems your i5 will only support 2666 MHz memory. You might be better off just getting a Ryzen 5 3rd generation.

That really sucks.

[Mailer]

Originally posted by Rock Head:

Detail about your motherboard memory: "10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7/i9 processors support 2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 MHz natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz."

Scummy intel as always. It seems your i5 will only support 2666 MHz memory. You might be better off just getting a Ryzen 5 3rd generation.

But why not just use an XMP profile for the RAM sticks they are/will be using, or am I missing something? My motherboard specifications state the exact same thing but that doesn't mean that I am limited to 2666 MHz frequency. I used the 3000 MHz profile with my i5-10600K and it (seemingly) works fine.

Also, the disclaimer in the header is referring to how you'll instead have to insert the M.2 into a different slot that is of the *chipset* PCIe lanes (at least that is probably what you'll want to do to not have the x16 lane bifurcated). The manual of the board should cover that, as well as how bandwidth is shared.
With a 10th gen chip, z590 board and an M.2 SSD, such is the configuration that I had to fiddle with before I eventually got it right and wouldn't unintentionally butcher the lanes of the GPU in the first slot.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Rock Head:

Detail about your motherboard memory: "10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7/i9 processors support 2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 MHz natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz."

Scummy intel as always. It seems your i5 will only support 2666 MHz memory. You might be better off just getting a Ryzen 5 3rd generation.

Is that actually a problem though? How much performance are you losing if an i5 is limited to 2666mhz? Is the performance bad? People get all twisted up over feeling like they're missing out, losing something or something is being taken away. And they tend to feel that way regardless of what the actual effect is.

AS far as I know higher and higher clocked RAM offers diminishing returns. And last I knew Intel CPU's weren't as sensitive to RAM speeds as Ryzen CPU's are.

So again is this actually a problem? Or just feels like a problem?

[Drystoner]

Originally posted by Mailer:

Originally posted by Rock Head:

Detail about your motherboard memory: "10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7/i9 processors support 2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 MHz natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz."

Scummy intel as always. It seems your i5 will only support 2666 MHz memory. You might be better off just getting a Ryzen 5 3rd generation.

But why not just use an XMP profile for the RAM sticks they are/will be using, or am I missing something? My motherboard specifications state the exact same thing but that doesn't mean that I am limited to 2666 MHz frequency. I used the 3000 MHz profile with my i5-10600K and it (seemingly) works fine.

Also, the disclaimer in the header is referring to how you'll instead have to insert the M.2 into a different slot that is of the *chipset* PCIe lanes (at least that is probably what you'll want to do to not have the x16 lane bifurcated). The manual of the board should cover that, as well as how bandwidth is shared.

Ok, so I was stressing over nothing. Thanks for the clarifications.

[Agent]

Originally posted by Mailer:

Originally posted by Rock Head:

Detail about your motherboard memory: "10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7/i9 processors support 2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 MHz natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz."

Scummy intel as always. It seems your i5 will only support 2666 MHz memory. You might be better off just getting a Ryzen 5 3rd generation.

But why not just use an XMP profile for the RAM sticks they are/will be using, or am I missing something? My motherboard specifications state the exact same thing but that doesn't mean that I am limited to 2666 MHz frequency. I used the 3000 MHz profile with my i5-10600K and it (seemingly) works fine.

Also, the disclaimer in the header is referring to how you'll instead have to insert the M.2 into a different slot that is of the *chipset* PCIe lanes (at least that is probably what you'll want to do to not have the x16 lane bifurcated). The manual of the board should cover that, as well as how bandwidth is shared.
With a 10th gen chip, z590 board and an M.2 SSD, such is the configuration that I had to fiddle with before I eventually got it right and wouldn't unintentionally butcher the lanes of the GPU in the first slot.

OC is unstable and not as consistent as native.

[Agent]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

Originally posted by Rock Head:

Detail about your motherboard memory: "10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7/i9 processors support 2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 MHz natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz."

Scummy intel as always. It seems your i5 will only support 2666 MHz memory. You might be better off just getting a Ryzen 5 3rd generation.

Is that actually a problem though? How much performance are you losing if an i5 is limited to 2666mhz? Is the performance bad? People get all twisted up over feeling like they're missing out, losing something or something is being taken away. And they tend to feel that way regardless of what the actual effect is.

AS far as I know higher and higher clocked RAM offers diminishing returns. And last I knew Intel CPU's weren't as sensitive to RAM speeds as Ryzen CPU's are.

So again is this actually a problem? Or just feels like a problem?

A good 10-20 FPS depending on the module. I'd say it's a good investment.

[Magma Dragoon]

Originally posted by Riff:

Originally posted by Mailer:

But why not just use an XMP profile for the RAM sticks they are/will be using, or am I missing something? My motherboard specifications state the exact same thing but that doesn't mean that I am limited to 2666 MHz frequency. I used the 3000 MHz profile with my i5-10600K and it (seemingly) works fine.

Also, the disclaimer in the header is referring to how you'll instead have to insert the M.2 into a different slot that is of the *chipset* PCIe lanes (at least that is probably what you'll want to do to not have the x16 lane bifurcated). The manual of the board should cover that, as well as how bandwidth is shared.

Ok, so I was stressing over nothing. Thanks for the clarifications.

No, he can clock his RAM that high because he has a Z board. Only with the 11th gen does Intel allow memory over 2666 on B and H boards.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Rock Head:

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

Is that actually a problem though? How much performance are you losing if an i5 is limited to 2666mhz? Is the performance bad? People get all twisted up over feeling like they're missing out, losing something or something is being taken away. And they tend to feel that way regardless of what the actual effect is.

AS far as I know higher and higher clocked RAM offers diminishing returns. And last I knew Intel CPU's weren't as sensitive to RAM speeds as Ryzen CPU's are.

So again is this actually a problem? Or just feels like a problem?

A good 10-20 FPS depending on the module. I'd say it's a good investment.

That's a pretty generalized claim, should be easy to provide some evidence where it applies to virtually any game.

[Agent]

Originally posted by Magma Dragoon:

Originally posted by Riff:

Ok, so I was stressing over nothing. Thanks for the clarifications.

No, he can clock his RAM that high because he has a Z board. Only with the 11th gen does Intel allow memory over 2666 on B and H boards.

As I said OP. Intel only care about your money.