VSYNC = reduced temperatures ?

[Mihai_89]

Just wanted to ask this, for example you get 140 FPS or more in games.

Should VSYNC always be used as a method to reduce GPU temperature ?

Or should we NOT have to do that in order to reduce GPU temp ?

[Mihai_89]

Originally posted by Monk:

Originally posted by Mihai_89:

Doesn't the fact that i'm having fan speed 90-95% and 80'C with CURRENT case kinda prove that the factory didn't do that great of a job with the GPU stock thermal paste though ?

No it doesn't, it's not too hot, but it is warm, it suggests you have a crap case.

If you swap the case and redo the thermal paste at the same time you won't know which improved it (the case).

Swap the case, then if you want a couple degrees more, do the paste (10 minute job can do it yourself), save yourself some money and swap the case yourself and learn a new skill on the way.

If you want to drop temps seriously by swapping paste you kind of need to go the whole way, upgrade thermal pads (add 'secret putty if you want to go crazy) abd use liquid metal, but, at this point, heck, even redoing the paste, depending on brand, you may well wipe out your warranty, and it will have little impact really.

For anyone else with a 3090, swapping out pads etc on the rear memory can make a big difference if you mine/ heavy gaming if you are worried about the temps, below the 3090, no real need.

So your saying that with my CURRENT case it is normal for a GPU of 2 weeks old to hit fan speed 90-95% after 5 min in games and still get 80'C ?

[76561198343548661]

i d blame the case for everything Dont reapply any paste

wow , i can post

[Mihai_89]

Originally posted by littlecat20160:

i d blame the case for everything

wow , i can post

You also posted and helped me before. :)

Why the "surprise" that you can post ?

[CravenCoyote]

Originally posted by Mihai_89:

So your saying that with my CURRENT case it is normal for a GPU of 2 weeks old to hit fan speed 90-95% after 5 min in games and still get 80'C ?

You don't seem to quite understand how much of an impact your case can have.

If your case has no airflow (ie no cool, fresh air) then your GPU is going to be blowing 'recycled' hot/warm air onto the heat sink.

A case with good airflow will help this. This is why it was suggested you remove the panel from the side of your case and put a desk fan blowing in for the time being. It'll take you 5 minutes and you'll see the difference right away. If you DON'T see a difference, then you can then consider repasting.

[76561198343548661]

Originally posted by Mihai_89:

Originally posted by littlecat20160:

i d blame the case for everything

wow , i can post

You also posted and helped me before. :)

Why the "surprise" that you can post ?

when a Steam user posts a lot , they impose a time ban for posting

2 or 3 intake front fans , 1 rear and 1 top/rear exhaust fans

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Mihai_89:

Originally posted by Omega:

What benefit would it provide to me? A slightly more quiet system?

And at what cost? Massive input lag.

Not worth it.

Increasing life of GPU by running at better temp ?

Also 60 FPS isn't great for online shooters.. but in single player action games and other games it's very good i'd say.

It doesn't matter, because like everyone's told you here and on your other threads, your GPU is running within NVIDIA's specifications. They aren't going to sell you a GPU that will kill itself by running normally.

Your case is the main problem because GAMEMAX designed an absolute pile of ♥♥♥♥, there's no ideal spots for intake fans and the front panel is just solid metal with some RGB. It would do you a lot of good to actually drill a bunch of big holes in the front and then carefully add screw holes so you can add in more fans on the front, or just buy a new case. Repasting your GPU will do nothing because it's the airflow that's the problem, your GPU can't get enough air, so it's running hotter and spinning the fans faster, working hard to try to stay within spec. Even just by taking the side panel off and leaving it off would give you a big boost in terms of temperature, even more so if you point a desk fan at it when the panel is off to give it more active airflow.

I recall telling all of this to you on a previous thread weeks ago. As have others. Listen to us.

[Supafly]

Originally posted by Mihai_89:

Originally posted by Supafly:

I wouldn't bother having it repasted till I know it needs to be done. Like I said take the side of that case off for now as that will give it air to improve it's cooling.

A setup with 6 fans will be fine, the normal setup
B setup for 4 fans I'd go rear and top/rear exhaust and 2x fronts as intake. Essentially the same as 6 fans but top middle/front fan slot and the front/top is empty.

Pay attention to fan specs. Don't go cheap because they're cheap. Cheap often run at high RPM creating more noise and move less air that a slight more expensive version.

Plenty of users here will recommend various brands and models. Personally I like BeQuiet Silent Wings 3. Around £20 per fan and good for both case fans as well as pulling/pushing air through radiator/and filters. Do have highspeed versions the move more air. I got those but mine never go above the RPM the non highspeed versions do.

I'd start with the fans that come with the new case though. Fact it'l have dedicated intake fan may be enough to lower RPM and temps to what your happy with. Not hard to add more later. Turn off and Unplug system then place fan in new spot and secure it with the 4 screws/anti vibration fittings and connect it to a header on the motherboard. Plenty here can talk to through locating a fan header. They can only go on one way and only on fan headers anyway so you can't plug them into somewhere they shouldn't go.....

Supafly is it possible though that the 79-80'C i get for exameple in Predator Hunting Grounds with Epic settings (yep that's how it says in the game's graphics menu "epic") with fan speed at 95% is the result of bad applied stock thermal paste ?

READ what I've said over and over.

Answering would be nothing more than a guess. TAKE the side panel off until you get the new case with better airflow. Or repaste I no longer care since you ask the same question and want me to speculate despite me telling you I'm not guessing to give you an answer. I've already told you numerous times it's the case and it's lack of airflow. You and trying to cool with trapped air inside getting hotter and hotter...................

[Baker]

"150-200 FPS and got 77-78'C
60 FPS and got 65'C"

The card is not overheating.
Good airflow in the case will most likely lower the GPU fan speeds to keep it at those temps but
I couldn't say for sure without knowing the fan curve settings for the card.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Baker:

"150-200 FPS and got 77-78'C
60 FPS and got 65'C"

The card is not overheating.
Good airflow in the case will most likely lower the GPU fan speeds to keep it at those temps but
I couldn't say for sure without knowing the fan curve settings for the card.

His fans are running over 90% speed because his case has no fans as intake, and no good spots for intake fans to get air to the GPU.

GAMEMAX needs to get sued. Their cases are worthless garbage.

[Baker]

yeah I'm just saying i don't think there is any problem with the graphics card.
I get around 62C at 60FPS and that just seems normal to me but my GPU fan speeds are only 30-40%

[Karasukan]

i dont understand this much. People tell i must get a 144mhz screen but cap at 60fps?

[Supafly]

Originally posted by raison d'être 💕:

i dont understand this much. People tell i must get a 144mhz screen but cap at 60fps?

They don't have a clue or are biased or something.

More fps that the frefresh isn't bad. Little wasted on non competitive games but for competitive games the more fps the better. Even if the screen can only show a portion of the rendered fps it'll be showing the most recent and accurate image whilst dropping the others.

If you gap to 60fps on a 60hz when you can get 120 you are always seeing every odd frame 1, 3,5 and so on while dropping the evens frames 2,4,6,.............. Each dropped frame would have been the latest and most accurate meaning you are essentially handicapping your game.

For a single player it's reasonable to cap but not in competitive. Sure a 120hz+ display would be better but not capping fps isn't bad. The worse thing about not capping fps is the GPU will be running max to render as many frames as possible and that'll generate heat. GPU fans will control that so it's not getting too hot anyway.

Bottom line is if it's a competitive game don't handicap yourself capping fps to the refresh rate. Feel free to cap if it's a non competitve game

[Karasukan]

Originally posted by Supafly:

Originally posted by raison d'être 💕:

i dont understand this much. People tell i must get a 144mhz screen but cap at 60fps?

They don't have a clue or are biased or something.

More fps that the frefresh isn't bad. Little wasted on non competitive games but for competitive games the more fps the better. Even if the screen can only show a portion of the rendered fps it'll be showing the most recent and accurate image whilst dropping the others.

If you gap to 60fps on a 60hz when you can get 120 you are always seeing every odd frame 1, 3,5 and so on while dropping the evens frames 2,4,6,.............. Each dropped frame would have been the latest and most accurate meaning you are essentially handicapping your game.

For a single player it's reasonable to cap but not in competitive. Sure a 120hz+ display would be better but not capping fps isn't bad. The worse thing about not capping fps is the GPU will be running max to render as many frames as possible and that'll generate heat. GPU fans will control that so it's not getting too hot anyway.

Bottom line is if it's a competitive game don't handicap yourself capping fps to the refresh rate. Feel free to cap if it's a non competitve game

thank you for explaining this all! I dont really understand all of it yet though

A few times they showed me different screens but i couldnt tell different between 60 mhz screens and 120 and 144. Maybe my brains are too slow idk. What i have been told in an old computer lab is that those old CRT monitors had a really high mhz so i guess true pro gamers could resort to that for the ultimate feeling xD

[Supafly]

Originally posted by raison d'être 💕:

thank you for explaining this all! I dont really understand all of it yet though :SillySally:

A few times they showed me different screens but i couldnt tell different between 60 mhz screens and 120 and 144. Maybe my brains are too slow idk. What i have been told in an old computer lab is that those old CRT monitors had a really high mhz so i guess true pro gamers could resort to that for the ultimate feeling xD

Just looking at a screen doesn't do higher hz justice if your looking at a desktop image or game not getting higher fps.

Looking at a 60hz, 12hz, 144hz display you need to move something to actually feel the improvement. For me moving the mouse cursor over a 60 hz panel just feels and looks ewww. While you might not register consciously the high hz you can feel the smoothness of it.

Try not to lose you in the tech stuff.

60 hz means the display refreshes/draws a new image on the display 60 times a second. 120 times for a 120hz display and so on.

If you are getting 60 fps on a 60 hz dispay it's essentially a 1-1 pattern. 1 frame per refresh.......V-sync tearing and stuff aside thats the basics.

If you have 120fps and a 60 hz display that means you computer is rendering 2 frames per refresh. 2 doesn't go into 1 refresh so the older frame gets dropped and the newer gets drawn. That means frame 1 being old is dropped and you see 2 get drawn. As 2 is newer it contains more recent and accurate data. pattern continues through all frames, first dropped and second drawn. So more fps in competitive is a GOOD thing because you SEE the most recent data drawn.

Works higher too. 180fps or 240fps or 300fps. Needs to divide evenly by the hz though or it'll be split frames and that is rather pointless.

60fps / 60hz = 1
120fps / 60hz = 2
180fps / 60hz = 3
240fps / 60hz = 4
300fps / 60hz = 5

^^^ fine as it's a whole number

90fps /60 hz = 1.5 and thats not god because you're not getting complete frames. So remember to stick to fps caps that divide by the hz evenly

Older CRTs are still better in someways. Their physical size is their biggest downsize...that and they don't get made much nowadays

[Mihai_89]

Guys thank you for all your replies.

I have returned after switching cases and the difference is humongous.

In predator hunting grounds i was getting 80-81'C before.. now i get 62'C.

One thing though.. my case vibrates now. LOL

I checked all 6 fans and all of them are running, none of them are hitting any components or anything else.

Also if i put my head near the front of the case where the 3 intakes are the noise is like a car or jet engine. LOL