Zavi ☯ 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 5:55
Ryzen 5 5600X or Ryzen 7 5800X?
Right now I'm using a Ryzen 3 3200G alongside a Radeon RX 570 with 8GB. I was thinking about changing out the CPU as it is more on the budget side but I just wanted a few opinions before I actually bought one of them. Would the 5600X be a good enough upgrade or should I get the 5800X instead? I have games coming out later this year like BF 2042 and Total War: Warhammer 3 in mind.
最后由 Zavi ☯ 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 5:56
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lotuastation 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 5:58 
I personally think the R5 5600X is more than enough.
The R7 5800X just have more cores and threads and gets better performance, yes, but I think you would be more than happy with the R5 5600X.
Illusion of Progress 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 6:21 
I would probably give consideration to the Ryzen 7 5800X because I feel like if you're still on a quad core at this point, you should try and aim to just hop over hex cores and go to octo cores (if you're already on a hex core, however, this doesn't mean you need to ditch them yet). The Ryzen 7 5800X in particular, however, is a pretty bad buy, being the worst value CPU in the Zen 3 lineup, whereas the Ryzen 5 5600X (or maybe it's the Ryzen 9 5900X) are among the best in that regard.

Normally, the Core i7 10700K fits in well as a better buy at the octo core spot, but since you already have an AM4 board, it makes a little more sense to go with Ryzen 7 5800X over it depite being a poorer value directly. The Ryzen 7 3700X is a good value (a bit behind the 10700K and again, you're already on AM4), and makes for a decent consideration so I wouldn't totally discount it, but you'd be going from Zen+ to Zen 2 rather than Zen+ to Zen 3 so it's still a gain but a smaller one, so I'd only consider it if you REALLY wanted an octo core over a hex core but didn't want to spend the poor pricing for the Ryzen 7 5800X. I say that owning a Ryzen 7 3700X, by the way. Fantastic CPU, but I'd only consider it in that select circumstance. I'd choose Zen 3 over it if starting from scratch (but had an AM4 board, if not I'd be looking at the Core i7 10700K).

Ultimately, in your spot, having the AM4 board already, I'd probably go with the Ryzen 7 5800X. Yes it's a rather poor value and you don't need octo cores yet, but anyone still on a quad core looking to upgrade should consider just going to an octo core at this point IMO. But you'd be happy with the 5600X too, if you want to save some money and see yourself upgrading sooner rather than later.
最后由 Illusion of Progress 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 6:22
Schrute_Farms_B&B 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 6:22 
I would choose the 5800X for upgrading reasons. The 5600X is more than enough for most of todays games on the highest settings, but it wont be too long.
I mean take a look on Cypberpunk. Thera are articles and benchmark clips that proof, that 6 cores are the MINIMUM + SMT, for playing @ultra settings. You get at least a 15-20% more performance with a 8 core.
Even the old 8 core CPUs like Zen+ struggle big time. Same for the i7-7700K.

i5-10400F/3700X/5600X are minimum TODAY if you put value on ultra settings and high framerates for the most demanding games.
If youre planning to keep your rig for a few years and upgrade your GPU after 1-3 years, the 5800X is the only option to roll with.
Otherwise, get the 5600X.
3mo1 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 6:37 
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Illusion of Progress 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 6:38 
Oh, it is worth asking too, what motherboard do you have? If you have a Zen+ Ryzen 3 right now, unless it's been paired with a good board, it might not handle a Zen 3 octo core so well.

You also may want to considering moving up to 16 GB RAM, unless you're comfortable 8 GB is enough for your uses. If this lowers the budget for the CPU, you can go with either the Ryzen 5 5600X or consider the older Ryzen 7 3700X, depending on whether you want less, faster cores or more, slower cores (it's a 65 W TDP CPU, and though this isn't a literal measure of power used, it's probably the lightest Ryzen 7 so it might still work okay on some lesser boards).
Zavi ☯ 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 6:44 
Right now I'm using the ASROCK B450 Pro4, forgot to mention that.

Also I meant 8GB of VRAM for the RX 570, I already have 16GB of RAM and it's a pretty good jump from 8GB in my experience.
最后由 Zavi ☯ 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 6:45
DeadPhoenix 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 7:44 
My vote goes to 5800x too. Seeing how the new consoles have 8 cores and 16 threads as well. Should give you an idea that the 5600x will struggle within a few years.
最后由 DeadPhoenix 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 7:44
r.linder 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 8:13 
引用自 WG | ๖Zavi ❤
Right now I'm using the ASROCK B450 Pro4, forgot to mention that.

Also I meant 8GB of VRAM for the RX 570, I already have 16GB of RAM and it's a pretty good jump from 8GB in my experience.
The B450 and B450M Pro4 boards have a VRM only good enough for 100A which is only enough to run 105W CPUs at stock configuration. The 3700X and 5600X would be fine since they're running at the 65W power spec, but the 5800X may not run too well on that board.

It's better to opt for the 5600X and just hold off, because I doubt the 5800X would actually perform any better and 6C/12T will be able to keep up for longer than people think. Game developers are going to continue to make games that the masses can play, not what ~5% of users can play. They won't get much profit if nobody can play their game.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 8:19
GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™ 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 10:35 
If it were me personally I would go for the 5600x because there's hardly a difference in gaming. Hell, some of the benchmarks I saw the 5600x is the same as the 5900x, so...
r.linder 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 11:06 
引用自 Hardware Hero™
If it were me personally I would go for the 5600x because there's hardly a difference in gaming. Hell, some of the benchmarks I saw the 5600x is the same as the 5900x, so...
In general, Ryzen has the same single core performance for the whole stack, that's why. All you get from going with the higher end SKUs is extra cores and threads, that's it.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 11:06
Komarimaru 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 11:26 
Simply put, unless you want to do other things then game, stick to a 5600x. If want to do encoding, rendering etc, then 5900x. Don't waste your money with the in betweens.
Zavi ☯ 2021 年 7 月 12 日 上午 11:53 
It seems that 5600X is the more suitable option for me. Thank you My Heroes :darekoiriko:
Bad 💀 Motha 2021 年 7 月 12 日 下午 5:28 
You want a B550 motherboard and at least 16gb of ram. A decent cpu cooler and at least one ssd
mtono 2021 年 7 月 12 日 下午 6:27 
引用自 WG | ๖Zavi ❤
Right now I'm using a Ryzen 3 3200G alongside a Radeon RX 570 with 8GB. I was thinking about changing out the CPU as it is more on the budget side but I just wanted a few opinions before I actually bought one of them. Would the 5600X be a good enough upgrade or should I get the 5800X instead? I have games coming out later this year like BF 2042 and Total War: Warhammer 3 in mind.
hello,
if your system shall behold the 570 for a longer time, the 5600x is the cpu of choice. if you are planning a gfx board update in the near future, the 5800x is the better choice.
🦜Cloud Boy🦜 2021 年 7 月 12 日 下午 7:02 
Buying a brand new shiny CPU won't give the OP any extra performance in gaming because his GPU is the bottleneck in his PC. He will get the SAME fps as before.
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