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xinput only supports upto 4
dinput/raw can use more
if more than 4 are in joy.cpl, you need to set the game to use dinput or raw instead of xinput
check in the games forum on how to do this
Your suggestion to look in joy.cpl was great. It has shown me a hint. I've a mystery "2 axis 8 button gamepad" in there. I'm sure thats being picked up as controller 4 in the games. I've no idea what it is though.
I've tried disabling anything remotely related in Device Manager, but it does not disappear. Any bright ideas how I can ID what it is? I'm guessing its some software emulated device.
and disable them (not remove as that will just get reinstalled at reboot)
Thanks, your tip got me down the right path!