What is in the hardware of the Xbox Series X?
I just tried 4k 60fps mode with RDR2 on the console with my 4k UHD LG TV and it wasn't any false marketing, it truly was 4k60. Settings are a mix of high and ultra as it looks to me

I also tried TW3 4k60 and it was absolutely insane that it was even possible

On a 3060 it only hits 30fps on high and you need to pay atleast $1200-$1500 for the PC alone.

I'm honestly baffled the day actually has came for consoles to be this powerful at a $500 price point.

I honestly dislike the fact that I'm more limited though but in terms of performance its beyond my expectations its impressive what engineering they have done
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It's using custom AMD. Parts for CPU and GPU. It's zen 2 based like a Ryzen 3700x/3800x with a fixed clock rate and no turbo boost capabilities.
Graphics are rdna 2 based like a Radeon 6000xt.
It's pretty much like a PC but using custom built parts.
I looked at a lot of footage online and I could only find 4k 30fps for Xbox series x and rdr2. I couldn't find 4k 60fps. To get 60fps you have to play in 1080p I think.
_I_ 2021年6月30日 8時15分 
consoles also use upscaling or dynamic res change/scaling to hide low fpx

consoles are also sold at a loss and make up profit in service and games sales

comparing the hardware is pointless, console is designed to run game using fixed hardware at fixed settings
pc runs a heavy os with a wide variety of hardware and settings
最近の変更は_I_が行いました; 2021年6月30日 8時16分
Hardware Hero™ の投稿を引用:
It's using custom AMD. Parts for CPU and GPU. It's zen 2 based like a Ryzen 3700x/3800x with a fixed clock rate and no turbo boost capabilities.
Graphics are rdna 2 based like a Radeon 6000xt.
It's pretty much like a PC but using custom built parts.
I looked at a lot of footage online and I could only find 4k 30fps for Xbox series x and rdr2. I couldn't find 4k 60fps. To get 60fps you have to play in 1080p I think.

i looked upclose to examine the pixels and its real 4k, sometimes it upscales a bit on certain scenes but its so unnoticeable from afar im impressed.

I forgot to mention very quiet, my computer is louder then the xbox during gaming.

It makes me wonder why its taking so long for manufacturers to engineer parts like this this for the PC scene..
_I_ の投稿を引用:
consoles also use upscaling or dynamic res change/scaling to hide low fpx

consoles are also sold at a loss and make up profit in service and games sales

comparing the hardware is pointless, console is designed to run game using fixed hardware at fixed settings
pc runs a heavy os with a wide variety of hardware and settings

The performance is similar to a $1500 computer and despite that the noise is non-existent.

Even a high end PC still makes more noise then this.

I just don't understand why manufacturers can't get hardware to this level and price point. I thought paying more means better, but the Xbox has took that PC hardware ideology out of my head.

Im trying to find an engineer that can explain how this is possible
最近の変更はCyber2Bが行いました; 2021年6月30日 8時36分
_I_ 2021年6月30日 8時56分 
consoles work completely different from pcs

they use igpu, cpu/os/game can write directly to igpu ram areas without first sending the info to the gpu, and many other tricks to gain some fps

again, no way to compare them directly to pc hardware specs or performance
TenzoG™ - JD の投稿を引用:
I just tried 4k 60fps mode with RDR2 on the console with my 4k UHD LG TV and it wasn't any false marketing, it truly was 4k60. Settings are a mix of high and ultra as it looks to me

I also tried TW3 4k60 and it was absolutely insane that it was even possible

On a 3060 it only hits 30fps on high and you need to pay atleast $1200-$1500 for the PC alone.

I'm honestly baffled the day actually has came for consoles to be this powerful at a $500 price point.

I honestly dislike the fact that I'm more limited though but in terms of performance its impressive what engineering they have done
its an amd something like ryzen G series with VEGA 20 that they will never sell you also they use a special GDDR6 ram as both main and gpu ram something that pcie even 4 gen can't achieve and yes its a mystery however the deal with consoles is that they use a standarized hardware meaning that each game is specially optimized for the only gpu of console and they "squeeze" any potential performance but when make a game for pc they made much simplier and less optimizable (thats why most indie are pc exclusive) and also they have a standard performance since no every pc is the same they use either rtx 3060 3090,GT 1030 (popular due to the gpu shortage) ,either NVDIA or AMD(ATI) graphics meaning the potential of GPUs in pc aren't taken as high as in consoles . last hardware for console is similary expensive but companies manage to fill these gaps with services like play station plus(online) , xbos gamepass for free games etc... in PCs you pay the hard price of hardware while you later give the rest on the microsft os (or a linux open source for free) and the last on games... so pretty much it comes to optimazation and ACTUAL PRICE (which there is more on consoles hidden typically the overpriced early console titles, and actually shown on pc)
最近の変更はtonimarkが行いました; 2021年6月30日 12時22分
Hardware Hero™ の投稿を引用:
It's using custom AMD. Parts for CPU and GPU. It's zen 2 based like a Ryzen 3700x/3800x with a fixed clock rate and no turbo boost capabilities.
Graphics are rdna 2 based like a Radeon 6000xt.
It's pretty much like a PC but using custom built parts.
I looked at a lot of footage online and I could only find 4k 30fps for Xbox series x and rdr2. I couldn't find 4k 60fps. To get 60fps you have to play in 1080p I think.
Hardware-wise (as others have said, there's more ot it than this), this is pretty much right on. It's a Zen 2-based octo core with SMT with clock speeds close to, but a bit below, that of a Ryzen 7 3700X. The GPU I'm not sure where to place it exactly; I've seen others say a RTX 2070/2080 or so is roughly comparable.

In addition to the CPU and GPU, I believe it has 16 GB of GDDR6 RAM (yes, GDDR), which is shared between the system for RAM and the GPU for VRAM. The storage is a PCI Express 4.0 SSD, which can use compression to reach higher speeds (mostly relative to PCI Express 3.0 drives).

In addition, one CPU core (and probably its thread) are reserved for the OS AFAIK.
最近の変更はIllusion of Progressが行いました; 2021年7月1日 12時12分
TenzoG™ - JD の投稿を引用:
_I_ の投稿を引用:
consoles also use upscaling or dynamic res change/scaling to hide low fpx

consoles are also sold at a loss and make up profit in service and games sales

comparing the hardware is pointless, console is designed to run game using fixed hardware at fixed settings
pc runs a heavy os with a wide variety of hardware and settings

The performance is similar to a $1500 computer and despite that the noise is non-existent.

Even a high end PC still makes more noise then this.

I just don't understand why manufacturers can't get hardware to this level and price point. I thought paying more means better, but the Xbox has took that PC hardware ideology out of my head.

Im trying to find an engineer that can explain how this is possible
It's the same manufacturers. The consoles are sold at break even or a loss. The platforms are locked, when you buy a game for $60 on PSN $10-$20 goes to Sony.

I imagine economy of scale also keeps costs for consoles lower.
As someone who actually owns the console. I can't tell much difference between this and a 3 grand PC. I mean yeah if you want more than 60 fps or 120 for some titles then sure go PC. But as far as fidelity and literally everything else, not much difference. I can still turn off annoying settings like motion blur and camera shake. I'm actually considering just selling my graphics card.

For the price it does the job and I'm happy with it.
Agent 2021年7月1日 13時58分 
Why are you lying? Red Dead 2 does not offer 4k 60 on next gen consoles. It's 4k 30, and the only way to get 60 will be if Rockstar charges another 70 bucks for a remaster.
Spec wise:
3700x with lower clock speeds.
16GB shared between GPU and RAM
GPU compared to a RTX 2080 or the upcoming 6600XT.
And 2.4Gbps NVMe

Keep in mind they're selling these consoles with a huge loss, but most of the profit is coming from games and subscriptions.
_I_ 2021年7月1日 19時42分 
the nvme ssd on the ps5 is not removable
it has a slot for a 2nd m.2 drive, but its not enabled
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