Razer synapse spyware?

[Dr.Drake]

So I heard that Razer tracks your keystrokes if you have some of their software installed, Is this true?

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@Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at , can you make a difference between spyware and ransomware (and etc .) ? Between , we blindly trust big brands that they ll never abuse our data ! We have no choice but to just hope and believe .

that s all of me on this .

[Dr.Drake]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at:

Opprinnelig skrevet av littlecat20160:

Disagree , not convincing at all - just human hopes . All - Microsoft , Google and etc collect data but are not considered as spyware . LOL

Cool, let me know about that time there was Microsoft or Google ransomware or when they used people's social security numbers & credit card numbers to commit identity theft & make fraudulent purchases.

The stuff they do with data collection is rather undesirable at times but it's not the same as outright malware.


:rainbowtarget:

Unrelated, but why do you sign your posts with emojis?

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Dr.Drake:

So I heard that Razer tracks your keystrokes if you have some of their software installed, Is this true?

This may be a game of telephone - recently Razer's device installer was found to open a UI running as SYSTEM capable of opening a file picker and thus allowing the user to bypass Windows permissions. Apparently the fix is that the installer can no longer change the install folder.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dr.Drake:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at:

Cool, let me know about that time there was Microsoft or Google ransomware or when they used people's social security numbers & credit card numbers to commit identity theft & make fraudulent purchases.

The stuff they do with data collection is rather undesirable at times but it's not the same as outright malware.

Unrelated, but why do you sign your posts with emojis?

I mainly use rainbow circles, to match the avatar but sometimes, depending on the tone & mood, & swap for a different circle instead. It gives them a distinct look and if the post is long, a reminder of the avatar up top, from me writing it.

Anyone could buy most of these emoticons so it doesn't give a lot of security from people who can edit them but Community Mods & Support don't tend to misuse their power THAT much - so I only use an arrangement of 4 emoticons that can no longer be bought or sold on the Steam Community Market when I post in Steam Community Groups where moderators (who are just random users) are more frequently known for abusing their officer positions.

(The reason for those extra emoticons in groups is because if another user edits the post but doesn't have the emoticon, it will be extremely obvious [since the emotions won't render], even if someone's eyes glaze over the text saying "edited by other guy". ...and yes, this HAS been an issue for me before. )


So, for the most part, it's just for the sake of having a signature & reminding you of the circle up top & maybe the username that's associated with it - in case you forgot whose post you were reading by the time you got to the bottom of it. *lol*

There were a couple of other users that did this too but they're gone now.
Also, sometimes I turn it into a comic instead of just using the 1 emot.
Also, I have them, so I may as well use them for something.


As Old Pro says in The Magic Circle,
"tear the powers out of their creations and stitch them back together, YOUR way!"

[Autumn_]

Opprinnelig skrevet av littlecat20160:

@Autumn_,
Usually when people have doubts about their privacy , it s natural to turn to AV programs to make sure they are secure . But it could be gently covered .

But an Anti-virus won't do anything if you give the program the ability to 'make changes on this device.'
Plus, everything a 3rd party Anti-virus does, MS Defender does, or common sense does.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Autumn_:

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You just have to untick the option to install/use it. Anyone with two braincells to rub together can avoid installing garbage.
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Sometimes you are not given that option, because an installer is shady at best or malicious at worst. ...but also because glitches happen, so while they may have intended for you to be able to opt out, a bug in the software can cause it to skip over that screen, showing it for only a fraction of a second before advancing.

I had that problem once, and the places AVG forced itself into were just horrid. It was a "legitimate" install version, it just didn't get my permission before doing so, due to the bug & "default is opt out" model instead of "default is opt in". Their toolbar was disgusting, very hard to remove, and now I despise their product.

Any time that the default for any unexpected & bundled item in an installer, product, or service, anywhere in life, is "opt out" after an install, or service update, then that is something that, due to errors, and / or other accessibility issues, is being forced upon some people & didn't actually receive their consent ...if given a large enough sample size of users / customers.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Autumn_:

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Unless you're against software improvements, I don't see why you would be concerned about it grabbing that info either. It's not like it's grabbing things unrelated to it.
It would be a complete legal mess if it was, and would be plastered all over the news, and people would boycott the product/company that did it.
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This is a very naive view of both how malware & the operations of "the justice system" work.

Sometimes things work correctly but even the collective of people isn't omniscient & given the amount of dogmatic willful ignorance in society, actually quite a lot of bad things fall through the cracks...

[Now, that said, your arguments as to why "Razer" is probably not malicious are quite sound.]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dr.Drake:

What is a zero day?

Type of software exploit that isn't known about yet but often can be used by a malicious actor, such as a hacker, to escalate privileges if they do something like send you a piece of data (maybe through the web-browser, maybe through a chat-client, there's a lot of ways for this to happen) that does something like cause a buffer overflow and make your legitimate software engage in unintended behaviors (that the malicious actor most likely did intend, though, but the developer of the software being exploited did not intend).

Asking Google might provide more detail if that's not a good enough explanation for you.


:deadplanet:

I have never encountered a software installer without the option to 'opt out' of installing the 'addons.'
Sure, there may be some that exist that hide it, but the majority of software installers don't hide it, they just rely on you spamming the next button.

I use AVG, well, have it installed, it never actually does anything (because I don't do stupid ♥♥♥♥), and the only place it has any impact is Outlook E-mails, which you can toggle off with literally 3 clicks.
It's not invasive if you don't want it to be, but it will also reduce your safety.

Opprinnelig skrevet av littlecat20160:

Disagree , not convincing at all - just human hopes . All - Microsoft , Google and etc collect data but are not considered as spyware . LOL

Common consensus is that they are.