Buy the 3080, 4080, 5080, 6080, 7080, etc, etc to futureproof your PC! "facepalm"

[Cyber2B]

To new PC builders, future-proofing doesn't exist, technological advancements wait for no gamer.
Just buy what you can afford, you can't expect a PC even a super highend one to last 10 years as that's a prediction, not a promise.

[Illusion of Progress]

By simply reciting that sacred word, I foresee an argument on all things pertaining to it, haha.

What most people are attempting to say with that reasoning, incorrect use of the sacred word aside, is that buying above your needs CAN extend the length of time you get out of it before you have to next upgrade, and... that's typically true. So I sort of have the opposite take as you; when people say buying a certain video card is a waste if your monitor is only a certain resolution or refresh rate, I tend to disagree because of that very reason. Those same people will then tell you, once a given card is couple/few generations old, that the (for example) xx60 tier is "bare minimum" but that the xx80 tier is fine for a while yet.

[Supafly]

^^ This

If you have the money I always recommend a higher wattage PSU than they'd need as it'll allow more power hungry components down the line without needing to replace it. Along with paying for a better quality PSU as they will have 10+ year warranty and last multiple hardware changes.

Same goes for GPU, CPU and even monitor. Better than you need means you won't be fully utilising them but in the future you would without needing to replace a lower tier item.

Debatable on that as paying more now could end up costing more than buying weaker component and upgrading in the future. As if you buy weaker now and then upgrade the cheaper now and cheaper in the future could cost more, less or similar. Unless you can accurately predict prices and performance of all components it's a risk we all have to take

[м]

if you buy a xx80 it's good for 2 years until the next one comes out, that's "future proof" enough for me

[Andrius227]

Depends on your definition of the word.

Some think that “futureproofing” = gonna last forever. And others (myself included) think that it simply means buying things that are less likely to become obsolete within a year or so...

Like for example, i could get an rtx3070 or 3060 or other mid range gpu. It would do the job on current games. But there would be a good chance of a new game coming out that is simply too demanding for it. Therefore, its not futureproof.

Thats why i only buy top end gpus.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

I don't ever future proof. To me there's no such thing.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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if you buy a xx80 it's good for 2 years until the next one comes out, that's "future proof" enough for me :starhappy:

They generally can allow a decent gaming experience for longer then this. People using a 1080 Ti for example since it released can still get decent enough fps in modern demanding games. Sure it might not have all the fancy new features of an RTX gpu, but still. If one buys a 3080 now, it should hold up in gaming for quite sometime, longer then 2 years. RTX 2080 Super and Ti are still fine and they've already been out that long.

[sawdust3d]

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if you buy a xx80 it's good for 2 years until the next one comes out, that's "future proof" enough for me :starhappy:

They generally can allow a decent gaming experience for longer then this. People using a 1080 Ti for example since it released can still get decent enough fps in modern demanding games. Sure it might not have all the fancy new features of an RTX gpu, but still. If one buys a 3080 now, it should hold up in gaming for quite sometime, longer then 2 years. RTX 2080 Super and Ti are still fine and they've already been out that long.

Exactly, the 2080ti is still very high functioning and I expect to run that card in my primary gaming rig for another 3 years. My 6gb 2060 however is getting long in the tooth. It's not just performance as the deciding factor in where to buy into any new generation, it's performance/longevity.

"Future Proofing" to me is buying heavy on support components like PSU & MoBo.

Now that all the new stuff is out and the socket has changed on the Intel side; it's a great time to build powerful machine economically on the Z390-9xxx platform, but with the I understanding that when that 9900k reaches obsolescence in 5 years, you're start over with a new platform.

[Ralf]

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if you buy a xx80 it's good for 2 years until the next one comes out, that's "future proof" enough for me :starhappy:

You dont need a xx80 for that. You can use weaker cards for years, depending about your expectations. I have used midrange cards for 4+ years.

[Masque]

How many games have even a 1080 Ti as a listed MINIMUM REQUIREMENT to run the game.

Not recommended, but minimum.

After all these years, how many? And how many years from now will there even be 20 that have the 1080 Ti as a minimum requirement? Because there might be 5 games, today, with that requirement. Maybe.

Edit: 4K notwithstanding. But no games "require" 4K to run the game.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Because listed requirements are all pretty much non-sense to begin with.
Recommend doesn't even dictate that it's referring to maxed or nearly maxed out visuals, even at 1080p this can need a decent GPU, such as a 1080 Ti. There are PLENTY of games that can bring it to its knees, trust me. If you don't know this, your library must be small or you've never had the chance to actually play demanding games on a wide range of hardware.

[Masque]

Good point, BadMotha. No Man's Sky's listed minimum is, from what I hear, not what it should be listed as.

As for me, I've got a 1660 Ti, and I don't have a game that it won't run at 50-60 FPS. And that includes RDR2, which is still a beast. Not at Ultra settings, though. Hairworks on Final Fantasy 15 slows that one down, but every other option at max. And every other game I own runs perfect at all-Ultra settings.

I probably wouldn't enjoy Flight Simulator, Cyberpunk, or Star Citizen, but that's about it for games my card won't run well. And I don't mean at Ultra Settings, either.

I'm guessing, as far as "future-proofing", on my 1080p I won't see more than 5 games come to market in the next 5 years that will force me to upgrade if I want to play them. If even 5 games. Which means I am effectively future-proofed for 5 years.

The next 5 years may also prove me wrong. We shall see.

[Chimp Factory [M04]]

Never such thing as future proofing but future preparation sure.

Getting high spec or reasonably high spec parts in a new build will keep you going for years down the line. Unless your enjoyment needs mandatory Ultra settings on absolutely everything, having the settings turned down 5-6 years down the line is fine as your build approaches minimum.

I always went the way of gutting the system and getting new parts for most of the system when something fails; with the exception of my VR prep [GPU and PSU upgrade], a new major PC build each major failure for me like when the Motherboard shorted out and took a few things with it. Often simpler and cheaper since I can build from ground up with minimum hassle. Too many times I find making a big bundled purchase to be more worthwhile than a bunch of little ones that can add up to be more, it does depend.

I could do parts swaps every few years, but that comes with its own problems. Idiosyncrasies, troubleshooting and 'new solutions breeds new problems' aside If you do upgrade one thing, others might be holding that improvement down like in the case of some CPU bottlenecks. By how much depends; always remember that the slowest part will set the pace for the whole machine.

[Masque]

With the 4790k, and 32GB, my Mobo is as upgraded as it can possibly get, so when the time comes that I actually need something better, I'll build a new PC from scratch. Probably bare-bones like I did with this one all those years ago. Maybe five years from now, barring my motherboard actually going kaput, I'll do that.

Or if by some unlikely chance the next Elder Scrolls requires a better CPU.

[_I_]

the xx80-xx90 s/ti are more future resistant than the xx60-70 but cost 2-3+x as much

the higher end gpus are better for higher res or more displays (nv surround)
in general, a gpu is similar performance to a trim lower of the next gen (minus newer instructions sets)
ex. 1070 = 2060 or 1080 = 2070

a 295 (best from 6 years ago) is no match for a 1030
7 gens older 2xx-10xx, 7 trims higher than xx30 to x95

[Masque]

Thanks, _I_

What does a 1660 Ti = ? out of curiosity in the 20 range? Or does it even?