Is 64GB of ram overkill for a gaming PC

[Evil Ninetales]

The PC will be used exclusively for gaming and streaming. I have a seperate PC for any professional applications.

[Guydodge]

overkill ? probably.. need ? probably not..but ..a 750/850 watt power supply was considered
overkill now its just became a new norm thxs to the 3000 series cards.so while 64gb
is definitely not needed sooner or later it will be.im guessing in about 4 years maybe
less.and chances are you'll be doing a new build by then so 32GB is more than enough

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Yes.

[InfinityJosh]

OP might use 32 GB for RAM and 32 GB as OS.
Much faster even than a SSD.

[Witski]

Цитата допису Infinity Josh:

OP might use 32 GB for RAM and 32 GB as OS.
Much faster even than a SSD.

"as os" ? What do you mean? Install the os onto a ram drive?

[InfinityJosh]

Цитата допису Witski:

Цитата допису Infinity Josh:

OP might use 32 GB for RAM and 32 GB as OS.
Much faster even than a SSD.

"as os" ? What do you mean? Install the os onto a ram drive?

Yes

[Witski]

Цитата допису Infinity Josh:

Цитата допису Witski:

"as os" ? What do you mean? Install the os onto a ram drive?

Yes

SOmeone said that we need to let the computer on 24/7 for it to work because at every restart the ram delete something( was talking about games installed on ram drive)..so how that doeas work with os?

[Illusion of Progress]

Цитата допису SysGhost:

Depends.
For a Ryzen-based system, one have to reconsider memory speed versus modules in all 4 slots. Ryzen CPU's can't clock the memory as high (using XMP profiles) if all 4 memory slots is used as compared to using only 2 slots.

This is not inherent to Ryzen-based systems. More modules are simply typically more strain on the IMC.

That being said, it's also not usually an issue unless you're looking to tweak the ever-locking heck out of your RAM and/or system in general, and even then something else might become the limiting factor first. Like with "you can't mismatch memory", it's often vastly overstated. I've used 4 memory modules on my last 4 PCs, ranging from DDR1 through DDR4, to 1 GB through 64 GB, with Intel and AMD both, and I've had zero issues getting the RAM, the CPU, and the system as a whole to play nicely, at either default speeds, X.M.P., D.O.C.P. or even overclocked.

Цитата допису Guydodge:

overkill ? probably.. need ? probably not..but ..a 750/850 watt power supply was considered
overkill now its just became a new norm thxs to the 3000 series cards.so while 64gb
is definitely not needed sooner or later it will be.im guessing in about 4 years maybe
less.and chances are you'll be doing a new build by then so 32GB is more than enough

RAM norms will grow, yes, but I'm not sure I expect 64 GB to be standard in 4 years or less. 16 GB was $80 in late 2011 and I got it then, and it's just now in the last year or two been coming into being the amount to want to have. Something like 4 or 5 years from now, I expect things will be into the DDR5 life cycle to where RAM has come down from early adoption premiums for a while and, combined with the passing of time/growing of software, may make there being less point to going with less than 32 GB (but I expect 16 GB to still be capable), with 64 GB being something like 32 GB is now.

Of course, my guess is only as good as yours, and DDR5 prices could change things (DDR4 prices in their mid-late prime have been high compared to DDR2/3) but I don't expect norms to quadruple in 4 years at the current pace.

[mimizukari]

When 'futureproofing' my rig, I opted for 32GB RAM. Have never used more than half of it yet even with chrome and games running @ same time. I think 32GB is what you should aim for. And game developers currently develop 'max' for 16GB, haven't seen a game actually require more than that in the store pages yet... Plus HWSurvey say most Steam users are on 16GB(for good reason). 32 is absolutely enough.

[mimizukari]

Цитата допису ☥ - CJ -:

RAM is hella faster than an HDD and Traditional SSD among other storage media
So using RAM as a storage location will give a LARGE boost in applications/games where loading times are a hassle.

The problem is, most load bottlenecked games are much larger than what you would have available so RAM drives for those games are a no go

yeaaa, in this era you'll need like a 192GB RAM drive to do stuff like that, at that point you're running a server xD. (new COD for instance is 136~ GB)

[DieegoPeri]

Цитата допису ☥ - CJ -:

so the next standard will be 32GB in a couple years

Not even in 5 years tbh RAM =/= VRAM

[Witski]

Цитата допису Kurumi Tokisaki:

When 'futureproofing' my rig, I opted for 32GB RAM. Have never used more than half of it yet even with chrome and games running @ same time. I think 32GB is what you should aim for. And game developers currently develop 'max' for 16GB, haven't seen a game actually require more than that in the store pages yet... Plus HWSurvey say most Steam users are on 16GB(for good reason). 32 is absolutely enough.

anno 1800 uses all the ram you give at it :D,mostly all city building games/x4 and so forth

[mimizukari]

Цитата допису Witski:

Цитата допису Kurumi Tokisaki:

When 'futureproofing' my rig, I opted for 32GB RAM. Have never used more than half of it yet even with chrome and games running @ same time. I think 32GB is what you should aim for. And game developers currently develop 'max' for 16GB, haven't seen a game actually require more than that in the store pages yet... Plus HWSurvey say most Steam users are on 16GB(for good reason). 32 is absolutely enough.

anno 1800 uses all the ram you give at it :D,mostly all city building games/x4 and so forth

kinda sounds poorly optimized.

[Witski]

Цитата допису Kurumi Tokisaki:

Цитата допису Witski:

anno 1800 uses all the ram you give at it :D,mostly all city building games/x4 and so forth

kinda sounds poorly optimized.

the more the games goes on the more resouces those games consume,tough anno 1800 have a slight memory leak problem.

[mimizukari]

Цитата допису Witski:

Цитата допису Kurumi Tokisaki:

kinda sounds poorly optimized.

the more the games goes on the more resouces those games consume,tough anno 1800 have a slight memory leak problem.

well in games without memory leak problems and without loading like 200 mods at once, 16GB is all a reasonable person needs right now at this very second. For that reason I think 32 is fine.

[Evil Ninetales]

Цитата допису Infinity Josh:

OP might use 32 GB for RAM and 32 GB as OS.
Much faster even than a SSD.

You can't install anything like an OS in a ram drive because ram is volatile memory and deletes absolutely everything when it powers down.