would my current PC build bottleneck/throttle a 3070 or rx 6800? (pc build in description)

[☣AK47☣]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RyLK4d <-- my current PC i own. (monitor not in the pc part picker list because it isnt listed in thier monitor list)

so yeah, i am debating on a rx 6800 or 3070, but just want to know if my current build will be compatible with those GPUS or not. thanks to any help given

[anrkyuk]

1/ I'm guessing that PSU is the same age as the CPU (5 years ish), if so, I'd have concerns using it with a 3070.

2/ With regards the main question.. I'll get back to you (or someone else will come along)

[anrkyuk]

Well, given the 3070 is so new it's impossible to give a direct comparison for that card, when using a 2080 Ti as a benchmark, the i5 6400 apparently holds the GPU back by about 30%.

Update...
Here you go
https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070/intel-core-i5-6400-2-70ghz/

Update #2...
Just noticed you are using an intel stock cooler, I'd swap that... with literally anything, chances are it's throttles your CPU. If you are going to up your GPU, you don't want your CPU throttling and holding it back (even more).

[☣AK47☣]

Originally posted by anrkyuk:

Well, given the 3070 is so new it's impossible to give a direct comparison for that card, when using a 2080 Ti as a benchmark, the i5 6400 apparently holds the GPU back by about 30%.

Update...
Here you go
https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070/intel-core-i5-6400-2-70ghz/

Update #2...
Just noticed you are using an intel stock cooler, I'd swap that... with literally anything, chances are it's throttles your CPU. If you are going to up your GPU, you don't want your CPU throttling and holding it back (even more).

i can swap out the fan sure, i think i do have a better fan around somewhere. do you think the rx 6800 will be able to work with my current build? i know not much information is released about it yet but i am gravitating more towards the rx 6800 than the 3070 right now. i know amd gpus tend to be more demanding compared to nvideas.

[anrkyuk]

Thing is why buy a card that under performs by 30% with your CPU, why not save money and buy a card that is 30% less powerful to start with. I'd wait for a 3060 or look for a 2070 on black Friday.

Sorry can't comment on AMD cards, I have nothing against them, I just don't know anything about them from the last 5 years, just being honest.

[☣AK47☣]

Originally posted by anrkyuk:

Thing is why buy a card that under performs by 30% with your CPU, why not save money and buy a card that is 30% less powerful to start with. I'd wait for a 3060 or look for a 2070 on black Friday.

Sorry can't comment on AMD cards, I have nothing against them, I just don't know anything about them from the last 5 years, just being honest.

my current GPU is broken (fan broke and it burned out as i was rendering something while unaware the fan was not working) so i need a new GPU. i dont mind if i am not getting the full power of a new gpu, as i am planning to upgrade the CPU as well. just need to know if i my build is compatible with one of those new GPUS and i can continue running games at my current settings

[anrkyuk]

It's your money, but I'd buy a 2060 or 2060 super and replace the Intel cooler with a Coolermaster 212 Evo or something similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1vPgsDzMEQ

[SHREDDER]

What about mine?
RYZEN 7 1700
16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15
GTX 970 G1 GAMING( to be replacec by RX 6900XT or RTX 3080 in the coming weeks or months when avaliabilty becomes normal)
DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MP 600 2TB WRITE 4950M READ4250MB/S
CORSAIR CX 750M 750 WATT
WD BLACK 4TB (HDD)
1 TB HDD
PRIME X370 PRO
It runs evrything at max settings 1440p 30+ fps
I dont care if it is bottneck otr not. Io ordered rtx 3080 4 weeks ago but weeks ago idecided to cancel the order as i hadnt received it yet. And will either buy it agan when avalaibiltiy becomes normal or buy 6900XT in release date if there are better avaliability than RTX 3000

[anrkyuk]

Originally posted by SHREDDER:

What about mine?
RYZEN 7 1700
16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15
GTX 970 G1 GAMING( to be replacec by RX 6900XT or RTX 3080 in the coming weeks or months when avaliabilty becomes normal)
DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MP 600 2TB WRITE 4950M READ4250MB/S
CORSAIR CX 750M 750 WATT
WD BLACK 4TB (HDD)
1 TB HDD
PRIME X370 PRO
It runs evrything at max settings 1440p 30+ fps
I dont care if it is bottneck otr not. Io ordered rtx 3080 4 weeks ago but weeks ago idecided to cancel the order as i hadnt received it yet. And will either buy it agan when avalaibiltiy becomes normal or buy 6900XT in release date if there are better avaliability than RTX 3000

Ok ignoring the fact the R7 1700 would hold back a 3080
You have a 1440p 60Hz monitor, you are getting 30fps with a 970, why would you buy a 3080 ?

You want a 2060 Super, even that loses 20% performance due to your CPU, so getting anything better is entirely pointless, even if you ignore your monitor.

[rezo]

R7 1700 and i5 6500 will hold back a RTX 3070 or greater. Would be worth upgrading to a new cpu.

Anything from like a 9th gen intel i5 or Ryzen 3600+ should be enough, any higher would be marginal and just tiny fps differences.

Also OP to be safe I'd buy a new psu. A gold rated at a higher wattage would be more efficient and quieter but its up to you. The 3070 plus the system would use about 400w of power during games and thats with a R9 3950x and a bunch of other stuff. I wouldnt worry too much about it but if youre spending that much on a gpu, that last thing youd want is for it to die due to poor power or a cheap psu.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2124-geforce-rtx-3070/#:~:text=Power%20Consumption%2C%20Performance%20per%20Watt&text=The%20RTX%203070%20pushed%20total,power%20than%20the%20RTX%203080.

It AVERAGES at around 370w according to TECHSPOT when they reviewed it. It certainly uses far less power than old gen cards so I wouldnt worry about it.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

I had a quad core i5 for long time. It's not 30%, i can confirm it. You will get up to 50 to 70% bottleneck with that i5 6400 CPU of yours in modern games like Assassin's Creed Odyssey / Origins / Mass Effect Andromida etc. and lots of other new gen titles. Quad core i5 is barely suitable for GTX 1060 these days. You will see 100% CPU utilization with GTX 1060 if you play the above mentioned games. So any higher end GPU will give you NO performance boost at all. You need to buy a better CPU first before upgrading the GPU.

[DICKENS CIDER]

there is literally bottle neck calculators you can use online

[rezo]

Originally posted by TOXIC TONY:

there is literally bottle neck calculators you can use online

All those online calculators are gimmicky. Look at raw benchmarks or look at benchmarks on cpu dependant games like ACO, GTA or csgo.

[Nabster]

Everyone is just talking ♥♥♥♥ when they don't even know what resolution and refresh rate your monitor is.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Originally posted by Nabster:

Everyone is just talking ♥♥♥♥ when they don't even know what resolution and refresh rate your monitor is.

Use your brain, if someone is using a TOTALLY mid range PC like i5 6400 and a GTX 1060, than it's pretty obviously that he is using a 1080p monitor. It's a typical matching 4 years old mid range PC which costs $600 to $700. So, most suggestions are based on that mark.
No one will pair a 1440p 144Hz monitor with that kinds of PC, Unless he changed his monitor later.

[Nabster]

Originally posted by 🌈Cloud Boy🌈:

Originally posted by Nabster:

Everyone is just talking ♥♥♥♥ when they don't even know what resolution and refresh rate your monitor is.

Use your brain, if someone is using a TOTALLY mid range PC like i5 6400 and a GTX 1060, than it's pretty obviously that he is using a 1080p monitor. It's a typical matching 4 years old mid range PC which costs $600 to $700. So, most suggestions are based on that mark.
No one will pair a 1440p 144Hz monitor with that kinds of PC, Unless he changed his monitor later.

Yes use your brain to make assumptions that can be totally incorrect instead of asking the question. Just because it is common to use 1080p, let's just assume, not my money.

Again assume he is not changing monitor. Ignoring the fact that it wouldn't make sense to use a 3070 with a 1080p.

No one knows if he is using 1080p, 1440p, 4k, 60hz, 144hz etc, we are just guessing and talking ♥♥♥♥.

But I guess talking ♥♥♥♥ is what internet forums are about, nothing is wrong here.