temps 2020년 12월 8일 오전 9시 07분
AMD Beats NVIDIA in Price/Performance At High End GPUs
Pretty interesting as people have said AMD hasn't had great offerings like this at the higher end of the GPU lineup in a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ALYCuqtho
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Peterg 2020년 12월 8일 오전 9시 12분 
Article ? I hate videos.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2020년 12월 8일 오전 9시 25분 
Peterg님이 먼저 게시:
Article ? I hate videos.

LTT has articles for all their videos...

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1278422-amd-enters-the-chat/

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InfinityJosh 2020년 12월 8일 오후 3시 51분 
I like my RX580 4GB but Nvidia drivers were better, I had some issues with games with Radeon GPU, with the old GTX760 2GB I never had any issue.
Also I love FXAA (I know most of people find it blurry but the framerates cost is very limited while the graphics becomes acceptable) and there’s a Nvidia exclusive via Nvidia Control Panel (not every game allows you to select it as AA).
So in the high end GPUs I think people aim for drivers reliability and an exclusive AA capable to maximize the gaming lifespan of a GPU.
Bad 💀 Motha 2020년 12월 9일 오전 7시 06분 
But AMD has the worst drivers, so it's always going to be a no from me. Only time amd gpu is a good choice is for Linux only machine maybe.

Nvidia has always been worth it because AMD has virtually zero support when it comes to apps that need cuda or the NV encoder. AMD is only good as a budget gaming gpu, never for video editing or content creation
Rumpelcrutchskin 2020년 12월 9일 오전 7시 13분 
Dont buy them for Cyberpunk 2077 since it wont even support AMDs ray tracing so no shiny effects for you in this game with them.
Bad 💀 Motha 2020년 12월 9일 오전 7시 33분 
AMD doesn't exactly have their RT or DLSS ready yet. This will come later via driver updates in 2021. However games would need to update to support the amd varient of these as well, which many would never do.
Bad 💀 Motha 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 12월 9일 오전 7시 33분
Mad Scientist 2020년 12월 9일 오전 7시 45분 
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
But AMD has the worst drivers, so it's always going to be a no from me. Only time amd gpu is a good choice is for Linux only machine maybe.

Nvidia has always been worth it because AMD has virtually zero support when it comes to apps that need cuda or the NV encoder. AMD is only good as a budget gaming gpu, never for video editing or content creation
NVIDIA has had worse drivers.
We had to pull two drivers before, one especially. That should strongly hint at the level of disaster the drivers caused.

They're not without their own driver history of problems. Kepler and UEFI VBIOS beginning Era was littered with issues. None of you got to see it, thankfully. But it did cause serious issues.
temps 2020년 12월 9일 오전 7시 48분 
Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:
Dont buy them for Cyberpunk 2077 since it wont even support AMDs ray tracing so no shiny effects for you in this game with them.

Thanks for the input. The AMD cards have their own ray-tracing tech called ray accelerators. That said, I'm not really concerned about whether they are particularly good at the ray tracing in Cyberpunk 2077... I'll be happy to play the game with or without ray tracing. I don't think it matters much. There aren't really a lot of games that use ray tracing yet anyway.

The important thing to me personally is that the GPU has the performance to push a lot of FPS for the price, and can handle graphically demanding things like virtual reality games.

Second to that concern, it would be nice to get a GPU that is more quiet than other GPUs in terms of fan noise.
temps 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 12월 9일 오전 8시 05분
Autumn_ 2020년 12월 9일 오전 7시 56분 
cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:
Peterg님이 먼저 게시:
Article ? I hate videos.

LTT has articles for all their videos...

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1278422-amd-enters-the-chat/

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I don't see an article here, it's a forums post that has the video embedded, and a bunch of affiliate links.

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:
Dont buy them for Cyberpunk 2077 since it wont even support AMDs ray tracing so no shiny effects for you in this game with them.
Not saying I doubt you, but do you have any proof for that?
I don't see why it wouldn't, if it uses DXR it should 'just work.'

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
AMD doesn't exactly have their RT or DLSS ready yet. This will come later via driver updates in 2021. However games would need to update to support the amd varient of these as well, which many would never do.
https://youtu.be/jLVGL7aAYgY?t=1234
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-amd-radeon-rx-6800-and-6800-xt-review?page=5
Seems like their RT works fine (albeit a little lackluster at 2160p and 1440p.)
So long as games use the DXR API, then it should work fine.

Their version of 'DLSS' though, I wouldn't have a clue on.
Bad 💀 Motha 2020년 12월 9일 오전 7시 59분 
But one should also treat a driver update like a OS update. Wait until it's been out for a lengthy time and tested for issues before jumping head first to go update it yourself. Don't allow anything like os or drivers to perform auto updates. Stay a few driver version behind if needed to help ensure such accident doesn't happen with your hardware.
Bad 💀 Motha 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 12월 9일 오전 7시 59분
GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™ 2020년 12월 9일 오전 8시 35분 
I'm sorry AMD but I will never buy any of your GPUs no matter how cheap or fast they may be. I just simply cannot trust you ever again, sorry. Your drivers are the worst software that i think I have ever used.
I have been using nvidia for five years straight now and not even one issue at all, not one crash, no freezes, plus everything just works. Sorry AMD, you have some sick CPUs though I'll give you that.
Witski 2020년 12월 9일 오전 8시 59분 
Who's Your Daddy?님이 먼저 게시:
I'm sorry AMD but I will never buy any of your GPUs no matter how cheap or fast they may be. I just simply cannot trust you ever again, sorry. Your drivers are the worst software that i think I have ever used.
I have been using nvidia for five years straight now and not even one issue at all, not one crash, no freezes, plus everything just works. Sorry AMD, you have some sick CPUs though I'll give you that.
Funny enought i have more issue with nvidia than amd but no one scream loud about it..tough early 3000 drivers were crap like any new release hardware are being nvidia or amd,in that case for some reason people scream louder against amd and let the things pass away for nvidia...
Guydodge 2020년 12월 9일 오전 9시 02분 
temps님이 먼저 게시:
Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:
Dont buy them for Cyberpunk 2077 since it wont even support AMDs ray tracing so no shiny effects for you in this game with them.

Thanks for the input. The AMD cards have their own ray-tracing tech called ray accelerators. That said, I'm not really concerned about whether they are particularly good at the ray tracing in Cyberpunk 2077... I'll be happy to play the game with or without ray tracing. I don't think it matters much. There aren't really a lot of games that use ray tracing yet anyway.

The important thing to me personally is that the GPU has the performance to push a lot of FPS for the price, and can handle graphically demanding things like virtual reality games.

Second to that concern, it would be nice to get a GPU that is more quiet than other GPUs in terms of fan noise.
oh it matters you clearly havent played with ray tracing.if you dont care about the best graphical experience along with high fps thats cool.ray tracing is the biggest upgrade games have seen in 10years. nothing wrong with AMD if you want the same old same old.minus the drivers
which seem to still be an issue as far as i can tell.
Rumpelcrutchskin 2020년 12월 9일 오전 9시 04분 
Autumn_님이 먼저 게시:
Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:
Dont buy them for Cyberpunk 2077 since it wont even support AMDs ray tracing so no shiny effects for you in this game with them.
Not saying I doubt you, but do you have any proof for that?
I don't see why it wouldn't, if it uses DXR it should 'just work.'

Google is your friend (well more like Orwellian big brother but anyway), just type in Cyberpunk 2077 AMD ray tracing.
Rumpelcrutchskin 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 12월 9일 오전 9시 05분
Guydodge 2020년 12월 9일 오전 9시 11분 
Autumn_님이 먼저 게시:
cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

LTT has articles for all their videos...

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1278422-amd-enters-the-chat/

:qr:
I don't see an article here, it's a forums post that has the video embedded, and a bunch of affiliate links.

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:
Dont buy them for Cyberpunk 2077 since it wont even support AMDs ray tracing so no shiny effects for you in this game with them.
Not saying I doubt you, but do you have any proof for that?
I don't see why it wouldn't, if it uses DXR it should 'just work.'

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
AMD doesn't exactly have their RT or DLSS ready yet. This will come later via driver updates in 2021. However games would need to update to support the amd varient of these as well, which many would never do.
https://youtu.be/jLVGL7aAYgY?t=1234
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-amd-radeon-rx-6800-and-6800-xt-review?page=5
Seems like their RT works fine (albeit a little lackluster at 2160p and 1440p.)
So long as games use the DXR API, then it should work fine.

Their version of 'DLSS' though, I wouldn't have a clue on.
DLSS sucks across the board i highly recommend not buying any card based on DLSS
and what ever AMD is callling it.
Guydodge 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2020년 12월 9일 오전 9시 12분
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