MEMORY_MANAGEMENT BSoD when installing games

[Kiara]

I have a Windows 10 computer, and for a while now (over a month) it's been bluescreening when installing games, especially big ones (e.g. Hitman 2016, Hitman 2, Danganronpa V3, anything 10+GB) with the MEMORY_MANAGEMENT stopcode, sometimes even by just having Steam open in the background.
I've tried running sfc, chkdsk on both my HDDs, Memory Diagnostics tool, and nothing changed.

I've narrowed it down to either
1. something in the steam installs messes up the system files;
2. my hdd with system files (can't afford an ssd atm) is starting to give up (it's like 3 years old now);
and/or 3. some physical damage happened to the hdd, but I find that rather unlikely given how careful I am around my pc.

Besides the bluescreens with the same stopcode, I've had a severe slowdown with booting up my pc and when opening programs, as well as a few times having (almost) all my browser settings reset (saved passwords deleted, settings reset to default, etc. while somehow keeping the bookmarks, extensions and open tabs).

I've run out of ideas on what to do. If anyone is able to help, I'll be very thankful.

If it helps anything, my specs are:
CPU: Intel i5-6400 @2.7GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 2GB
RAM: 2x Corsair Vengeance DDR4 8GB (running at apparently 1200MHz)
PSU: GBT (apparently cheap unknown local brand) 500W
HDDs: Seagate Barracuda 1TB and 2TB

[_I_]

post a cpuz validation link
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
cpuz -> validate button -> submit button
it will open a browser, copy the url (address) and paste it here

[Supafly]

The stop code would be helpful

Check drives for issues. Crystal Disk Info.

If a drive is falling it can cause general slow including booting as the OS and other programs are having issues reading the data on the drive.

EDIT: Also try Seagates SeaToolsforWindows to run checks on the drives

[Kiara]

_I_ の投稿を引用：

post a cpuz validation link

here it is
https://valid.x86.fr/crhqci

[_I_]

update bios
f6 is old on that board, f24 is current
cpu core voltage looks a little low, bios update should fix it

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B150M-D3H-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

[Kiara]

Dead Monkey の投稿を引用：

try Seagates SeaToolsforWindows to run checks on the drives

tried it, got a bluescreen with the same error halfway through the main test.

Dead Monkey の投稿を引用：

The stop code would be helpful

also, I don't really get it. isn't MEMORY_MANAGEMENT the stopcode already?

[Supafly]

JooJ CeeC の投稿を引用：

Dead Monkey の投稿を引用：

try Seagates SeaToolsforWindows to run checks on the drives

tried it, got a bluescreen with the same error halfway through the main test.

If it's failing to complete the drive is failing. Replace it before all the data on it is unrecoverable.

[Kiara]

Dead Monkey の投稿を引用：

If it's failing to complete the drive is failing. Replace it before all the data on it is unrecoverable.

Honestly I think that's the case. It's apparently not just on Steam, but sometimes the BSoD happens on random intervals. Would I also need to reinstall Windows or just migrating the system to a new drive would fix the issue?

[Supafly]

JooJ CeeC の投稿を引用：

Dead Monkey の投稿を引用：

If it's failing to complete the drive is failing. Replace it before all the data on it is unrecoverable.

Honestly I think that's the case. It's apparently not just on Steam, but sometimes the BSoD happens on random intervals. Would I also need to reinstall Windows or just migrating the system to a new drive would fix the issue?

If its the OS drive I start fresh. No idea what data has been corrupted or lost by the failing drive.

EDIT. Once OS on a new drive add the failing drive so you can copy the stuff you want from it. Start with the most important stuff first

[SeriousCCIE]

whats the BSOD error code? It's a hex value.

if its like 0x50 or 0x1a, try upping the ram voltage a little, by like ,.05, and try that for a while. if that doesn't do the job, up it another .05.

I say that with the expectation that you are OK going into the computer CMOS/BIOS to do that. if you are not, then... other options include testing the ram for errors.

The windows install CD (and also available for download freely from the Internet from numerous places) has a program called memcheck; it is a dedicated ram testing software. Load it and run it. It might take hours--it could be something you let go overnight.

If there are errors... it may be time for a replacement. It also may require you to do some trial and error; sometimes taking the memory out and reseating it (putting it back in firmly and snugly) can resolve problems for al ittle while. It is possible that things became loose or dusty and the action of pressing it back into place can fix it for a while.

[[☥] - CJ -]

RAM or an issue with the Pagefile would be my guess

PSU being a crap unknown local brand could also be a cause.
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Easiest thing to do for now would be to reset the pagefile and see if that does anything
Just disable it, save, reboot, enable it, save, reboot, and see if your results change.

RAM and the Pagefile technically work together, so thats why i suggest trying that first.
The pagefile is stored on your OS drive so any damage to the drive could be affecting it.

[Kiara]

SeriousCCIE の投稿を引用：

whats the BSOD error code? It's a hex value.

if its like 0x50 or 0x1a, try upping the ram voltage a little, by like ,.05, and try that for a while. if that doesn't do the job, up it another .05.

It says it's 0x1A, but it's also followed by a bunch of numbers in parentheses (0x3F, 0x1E781, 0x95934E23, 0xFDA3B863). Do I also take those into account or just the 0x1A?

[Kiara]

☥ - CJ - の投稿を引用：

PSU being a crap unknown local brand could also be a cause.

if not *the* cause, it's definitely part of the issue, but at least I already got a new one (Corsair 550W 80 Plus Bronze) on the way to replace it.

[Talby]

A good test to separate your hardware problems from your windows problems would be to use a bootable OS that is on a usb like ubuntu:

https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/try-ubuntu-before-you-install#1-getting-started

Since you are having probs with your current PC hopefully you have access to another desktop or laptop so you can create the USB and use it to boot up your kit - you may have to hit F12 on yours as it's booting up to select the USB as the boot device. Pretty handy to have when you don't have a storage device or doing a fresh build, I keep one on my keychain and use it quite often than not.

Once you boot up the USB, run the disk utility as shown below and get the SMART stats as described, sometimes helpful to determine your drive health

https://askubuntu.com/questions/528072/how-can-i-check-the-smart-status-of-a-ssd-or-hdd-on-current-versions-of-ubuntu-1#528077

Also if you can surf normally and run some gpu tests like shown below (should work well enough with the open-source driver used from the bootable usb) chances are your pc hardware is good

https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/linux-gpu-benchmark/

hope this helps, cheers!

[-=TD=-DEMON]

Well, I have been having the same issue for weeks now. I literally have replaced every component in my system - all brand new, MB thru power supply. Fresh install of WIN10 and all updated drivers. Completely removed Steam, (imaged the original HDD to new HDD) de-fragged/compressed the drive (brand new 2 TB WD BLK), rebooted and re-installed Steam, Tried to install BL3, it started the download, and got the stopcode error after about 240MB downloaded. All the error says is STOPCODE: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT. Says to check www.microsoft.com/STOPCODE, and when you do, there is nothing there to do with any errors! I have literally tested every component to my best ability and cannot find anything wrong with the hardware. I have, previous to this new build, stopped steam from loading on bootup, and can browse the web, play other games (nothing to do with Steam), and can go for hours without an error popping up. As soon as I start Steam and do something for about 1/2 hour or so, BOOM - crash again. I am at a loss at this point. . .

Current setup is :

i7-10700KF @3.8GHz
MSI MAG Z490 Tomahawk
32MB Viper RAM
EVGA nVidia GeForce 1660 Super
Boot Drive(C) = 1TB WDBLK
2 - 2TB WDBLK as D:/E:
Apevia ATX-PR1000W Prestige 1000W 80+ Gold Certified

[nullable]

So when you say you replaced every component, MB through power supply. You've replaced the CPU, RAM too? I mean I could assume because you vaguely claimed that, but you could be explicit about that. It's not like PC hardware is typically represented on a scale of MB to power supply.

Also you say you've tested every component to the "best of your ability". We don't know what that means. We don't know what your ability is, and we don't know what tests you've run. These are important details you probably shouldn't gloss over unless you want to spend 45 posts explaining that you've done this and done that already when people suggest things you didn't bother to include in your post.

At any rate, being explicit with the details in a situation like this yields the best results. The fewer assumptions people have to make the better.

Have you tested the RAM with memtest86?

Also rather than necroing a two year old topic you could create your own and link to this one if you feel it's relevant. That will also yield better results.