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cpu: i5-10600k or i7-10700k or ryzen 5/7 3600/3700
gpu: gtx 1660 super/ti or if you can wait rtx 3060
ram: min 16gb
can you build yourself or do you need a prebuilt?
My rig isn't particularly old since I had to rebuild it out of the ashes after the first build crashed and burned playing NMS of all games. Anyway, I was in a rush to get it up and running so didn't have the time to do my research and think too far ahead. But I got lucky and got a decent rep at the Microcenter to help me pick out capable enough set up on a budget. So far the machine has worked well enough except for when there is a bios updates (which generally results into a nightmare having me taking out the cmos battery to reset it).
Like the creator of this page, with the emergence of the next gen of consoles I was beginning to contemplate how much more longer can my current set up keep up and is it worth upgrading individual parts or just hold off on a clean build at a later date? So far games at 1080p 60 hold up well enough but I am still catching up to the current gen's wealth of games so I am not dying for an upgrade but there will be an eventuality.
The focus is on two things:
The GPU: Radeon Rx 580 (8GB)
Processor: i5 - 9400f (6 cores, 2.9Ghz)
Its housed by an Asus Prime Z390 A. By all accounts its a pretty decent mobo (although the blades can create some obstruction). A more detailed info of my build can be found here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DXpYXb
While I don't have a particular budget, I am not looking to be at the forefront of the latest tech. By experience, its better to hold off by a generation. So I am not looking for the latest and greatest but extend my PC's gaming capabilities before I have to build a new one.
+1
OP's CPU is not 6 core. It's an old Quad core without HT. It will cause bottleneck even a GTX 1060 in newer games. Let alone rtx 3070 / rx 6800.
OP needs at least a 6c/12t CPU for those graphics cards to avoid CPU bottleneck.
Also are the RX500 series capable of raytracing? Because I am playing Yakuza 0 and at certain points i can see my characters reflection on the street as he walks over a puddle.
I think that was meant for me. Sorry. I did kind of piggyback onto this thread.
if you want to set textures to high/ultra you need the vram... personally i think a lot of people do not know how to get most out of their settings and gpu...
yes there is something like raytracing with rx 6000 series but raytracing performance still sucks no matter which card you buy...
"my opinion"
Would crossfire help the situation? These 580's are supposed to support three way. I could just get another 580 on the cheap and that could take care of the VRam issue with SLI? I know we have moved away with dual cards and stuff but is an option I have yet to take advantage of.
You aren't wrong. Most people don't really know. I just think there has been an influx of lot of ex-console gamers that really don't care beyond the obvious numbers and expect everything to just work. They are not entirely wrong to expect that, PC's biggest barrier is the familiarity with the hardware so you can take advantage past the safeguards but that takes time and a few PCs to destroy to get that intimate knowledge.
I guess I am part of that crowd too. Flipping between PC and console, I do tend to do the heavy benchmarking when I get a new GPU but eventually you slip into this comfortable lull where most games hold up to your threshold of enjoyment... till it doesn't.
You misunderstood the raytracing question. I was asking if the lower tier cards like the Radeon Rx 580 capable of supporting raytracing. Thats the card I am using currently to play Yakuza and I have seen limited hints of it in the game. Hmm... I wonder that is why at times the game crashes... personally I am not too bothered about having the option. I will eventually get my hands on a console to experience it all. Right now 1080p @ 60 suits me just fine. I was just a bit shocked to see something hyped to the gills as next gen feature to be working on a current gen game with a last gen set up... heh.
Its just better to take that money and buy a single GPU. The 1070 can most likely be found for around 100-200$ depending on the seller. A damn good card while also being very cheap on second hand market. The other 1080Ti can be found too and not so sure about the price, a bit more than 1070 though. If you looking at their retail price it would be around double most of the time.
for pc build rumplecrutchskin's build +1 but wait for 3060 and maybe spend a little more on case honestly (like nzxt h510)
I used to rock the SLI feature quite a bit when I was on my (now ancient) alienware M17x (from 2009) Its only very quite recently I decided to invest in a dedicated PC. It was fairly helpful as I recall as my laptop was struggling to play modern titles at the time like TW2 etc. Eventually I moved whole sale gaming onto the PS3 and reserved the laptop mainly for college work and a few Indie games that the SLI was capable of handling. Its only during the PS4 gen that I decided to splurge some cash and build me a capable machine. It was a terrifying experience but well worth it but I am getting away from the point...
What I know about SLI and crossfire was that it was still the hot ♥♥♥♥ around the time when the rx 580/ gtx 970/980 were still popular. I used to see various builds with double/triple stacked cards with some high end cooling and some blazing bench marks. The difference between SLI (SLI) and Crossfire (AMD) was that AMD's gimmick allowed to sync up to 3 cards. It was their big marketing feature and they were also geared towards bitcoin mining. I think SLI had their own updated version at some point too. What made both companies turn gears and drop the whole thing like a bad habit, AMD in particular, was that the third card was a complete waste as it only used a quarter of its power due to just lack of power distribution in the motherboards. You would need to spend a decent amount to have a mobo that was actually capable or try some risky hacks in order to bypass the restriction. The overall cost of power added up and these cards were not cheap at the time so the whole thing started ballooning up costwise to maintain. Funny thing is that this feature is still present in most cards today. Its only the latest ones that just came out that don't have that ability.
I have been mulling your advice over and did a little research and you are not wrong about investing in a single newer card but I do have intentions to build another powerhouse from scratch in the near future. So it just seems pointless to spend a few hundreds instead of the chumpchange I can just pay in cash right now in my wallet for the temp boost and even if it doesn't meet the expectation the cost wouldn't hurt as much (I can refund it within 2 weeks). The games on my backlog are mainly from the PS3/PS4 era and there won't be much benefit to many of the titles. But eventually I won't have much choice but to upgrade to reap the benefits of newer experiences. One of the things I have been waiting for is the possiblity of modular SSDs much like HDDs. I have been suffering with the HDD all this time and its almost here. Figure that will be something I must consider for the next build.