Will you move to Windows 11?
Since Windows 11 is coming officially in Tuesday, who is planning to migrate in the new os (if you didn't it already)?
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I'm on it already
Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:
Messaggio originale di MancSoulja:

Their actual wording is that you are not guaranteed updates,

Again....... and please READ MY WORDS.
Updates on Win11 for unsupported hardware (mainly comes down to the CPU) will be refused down the road in later Win11 builds. They have not implemented this as of yet. Which is why right now you can receive and install Windows Updates on whatever hardware it is working on. However this will change in the future. Why is this so hard to understand and why would it be wrong. They are only doing the right thing. By the time they force this sort of thing, any hardware you all are using now that is over 1-2 years old will be 5+ years old or so by this time. That's more then enough time for folks to move over to more modern hardware. No one is suggesting everyone has to dump their hardware today just to move over to Win11. That would just be stupid and MS is not saying this or doing this what-so-ever. It's silly and down right idiotic that folks think they should be putting a modern OS such as Win11 on hardware that's older then 2018/2019 or so. By the time Win11 is main-stream like Win10, the year will be 2024/2025

The problem is they read your words and your words said "If your system specs are not supported, you will never be able to receive Windows Updates within Win11."

That means what it means. It means you will NEVER be able to receive updates within Win11 if you don't have supported hardware. And then a couple posts later you say imply "for now you can". Never doesn't mean "sometimes" or "for now". Sure you can say "well I didn't mean never", ok but you still said it/posted it.

Never means never. That's what the word means. At your age if you don't want to be incorrect choose your words carefully. If someone took you seriously, they wouldn't even try because they really did believe there was absolute zero chance they would get Win11 updates, and yet here people are trying it and finding out they can get updates.

this is exactly why I've developed into the habit of sounding uncertain of most and only certain of some, because that's how things work in life. Things will change and there are things I don't know, although it would be nice to sound like that guy who knows it all, nobody does. And sounding certain of things just for the sake of sounding certain of things only ruins my credibility later on when my certainty is disproven again and again.
What I've read is that Microsoft is saying one is not "entitled" or guaranteed to receive updates in the future. Knowing Microsoft's deliberately vague and nebulous style, this may morph into yet another official statement down the road.

Just a few weeks ago everyone, including me, was insisting users running unsupported hardware would never receive updates. It's a little embarrassing.
I've been using it since the "leaked" build then I joined the Windows dev ring and used developer preview updates until I installed the full version of Windows 11 two days ago, so I've been pretty much used to it for months. Not much has really changed from the dev preview to main release, except that I had to download Paint from the MS Store as it didn't come included.
Paint came included on my fresh installs, along with a bunch of other crap I want out of my library.

The persistent library is my biggest gripe about the MS store. Permenantly tying system apps to a digital license is a problem.

I think when the company momentum was "windows 10 will be the last OS" people in development of the store took that to mean "Xbox Console Companion will be the last Xbox Live API"
Messaggio originale di 𝓡𝔂𝓾𝓚𝓪𝔃𝓮:
I've been using it since the "leaked" build then I joined the Windows dev ring and used developer preview updates until I installed the full version of Windows 11 two days ago, so I've been pretty much used to it for months. Not much has really changed from the dev preview to main release, except that I had to download Paint from the MS Store as it didn't come included.

Did you seriously used the leaked build as your daily system, or did you just use it inside a VM to mess arround, til the official release came along?
I used the leaked build as a daily (it was for only about a week or so until Microsoft officially introduced Windows 11) then I switched to the official developer preview releases. It didn't matter to me as there wasn't any personal info or anything on my laptop at the time. Once official updates were released, I starting installing more programs and logging into stuff.
Been doing this since Vista, I'm well aware of security risks, viruses etc. but since I always have a 2ndary or tertiary laptop to test stuff on, I don't ever bother with VMs.
Ultima modifica da RyuKazé; 14 ott 2021, ore 11:00
Aside from the memory leak issue on file explorer I've had no other issues with Windows 11.
Hello,

Telling us a 5 or 6 years hardware / computer set, is more than enough time waited to buy a new computer is ocmpletely insane.

It's nice for people in the need, been it for playing maxed graphics at 4k 84 16k 32k 64k 128k and so on each x generations, or for certain type of workflow.

But when you give up on gaming new games at maxed settings, or just want to surf on the web,
There is no way someone would force me to jumk a working computer.

it'd not even about life been expensive and unnafordable, but also the fact that most things we buy curently, are made to be junked.

From all the people i meet, i'm the only one who kept a cell phone still working, that is from 2009.

I just need to phone, i don't need smartphone part of cellphones.

That's completely crazy people thinks because they have a need or envy of somzething new, that everybody else must do the same.

Then you have other peoples telling you: If everybody was keeping things for years, then economy would be stopped.

I understand anyway, and balancing economy and usage over time without been forced to junk is difficult to do.

But actually it went too far.
I haven't seen anywhere that Microsoft is telling anyone to buy a new computer, junk their old one or that they MUST install Windows 11 or else. Where are people getting this from? If you can't install 11, stay with 10. If you don't want to buy a new PC for 11, don't, no one is forcing you to.
I think I must have missed a few news cycles.
My old ass haswell zbook laptop installed windows 11 from USB with no extra steps and no warnings. The windows 7 pro key on the sticker even activated it

Worst thing someones going to have to do is by a tpm module. Which shouldnt be an great endeavor for anyone who built their own computer.
Ultima modifica da WarBucks; 14 ott 2021, ore 11:58
Nope, won't run it on any daily use machines, test benches only. May skip it all together, we will see. I never jump on the new MS OS bandwagon, there is just too much hit and miss with Microsoft's OS releases. I ran Win 7 on our daily drivers until I moved everyone to Ryzen.

I much prefer to give MS time to improve stability, security, and let the bugs/exploits gets worked out over time before making a decision. Having worked on and serviced every Win OS since 3.1, I learned my lesson. lol
Ultima modifica da Strider; 14 ott 2021, ore 12:44
Messaggio originale di Strider:
Nope, won't run it on any daily use machines, test benches only. May skip it all together, we will see. I never jump on the new MS OS bandwagon, there is just too much hit and miss with Microsoft's OS releases. I ran Win 7 on our daily drivers until I moved everyone to Ryzen.

I much prefer to give MS time to improve stability, security, and let the bugs/exploits gets worked out over time before making a decision. Having worked on and serviced every Win OS since 3.1, I learned my lesson. lol


Theres a lot of logic in waiting out at least the first service pack. Especially if supporting a few people

The home laptop I use for bills and some handbrake and the desktop I use to game? Heck might as well see this iteration of the GUI so I can talk about "how bad it sucked when it first came out before they changed it" ;-D
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