Intel i7 10700K or AMD Ryzen 9 3900X — which CPU is best for gaming?

[Citizen Cook]

PC gamer claims that the intel CPU is better for gaming than the AMD alternative. What say you?

[Nabster]

Indeed

[Edifier]

While AMD do better when it comes to workstations loads, it isn't all that much better than the 10700K. It's only that 32 Core and 64 Core CPU that dominate a certain test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UMMPjqLe8g

The i5 10600K seems to top the FPS charts though.

So if you generally plan to game, Intel seems to be the way to go.

[big baby bobkitten]

yeah i suck i dont mean to ruin it but id umm get the intel and a big ass mobo and do a amd umm rx5700xt Card and a huge nvidia card also

[UserNotFound]

All I know is, I've built my rig NOT for 1080P gaming, my monitors do 3440x1440 and 3840x1080, so GPU's the limiting factor. I'm fine with my 3900X, though I'm waiting for NAVI 21 to be released, will compare its performance against the RTX3080 before deciding (this is on the assumption that the RTX 3080 issue of CTD has been resolved by then).

[Citizen Cook]

引用自 Illusion of Progress：

引用自 vadim：

History teaches us that consoles always had entry-level PC performance. No reasons to expect something will be different this time

Eh? History does not consistently teach this though.

Remember in the 1980s when things like arcade games and the NES were dealing with certain things (such as sprites, maybe scrolling too?) and it was PCs playing catch up?

Remember when the Xbox was pretty decent? A Pentium III (or maybe a Celeron, but same chip sans half the cache and a reduced FSB) paired with an early GeForce 4-esque GPU which handled Halo MUCH better than than a PC with a Pentium III and GeForce 4 Ti would (I personally tried).

Remember how the Xbox 360 had a GPU very similar to the Radeon X1900, a pretty high end consumer GPU in 2005 when the console also released? Pretty sure the PlayStation 4 had something similar to a GeForce 7 series of the time.

Yes, the last (current) console generation has been weak, but it's been a bit of an exception rather than the rule.

This is true. I built my current PC for £800. That gave me a system more powerful than the Xbox One/PS4.

Now, to build a PC that can rival the Xbox Series X/PS5 I would need to spend over £1500

The Xbox One/PS4 were incredibly weak when they launched, but this has proven to be an exception to the rule.

[Citizen Cook]

引用自 Edifier：

While AMD do better when it comes to workstations loads, it isn't all that much better than the 10700K. It's only that 32 Core and 64 Core CPU that dominate a certain test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UMMPjqLe8g

The i5 10600K seems to top the FPS charts though.

So if you generally plan to game, Intel seems to be the way to go.

I can get the AMD chip for around £450 whereas I can get an Intel for £400. And Intel is the better gaming CPU...

[Citizen Cook]

引用自 big baby bobkitten：

yeah i suck i dont mean to ruin it but id umm get the intel and a big ass mobo and do a amd umm rx5700xt Card and a huge nvidia card also

PC gamer recommend pairing a Gigabyte 2390 Aorus Ultra motherboard with the Intel CPU.
That’s a £250 motherboard though. Seems kinda pricey...

[Edifier]

引用自 Citizen Cook：

I can get the AMD chip for around £450 whereas I can get an Intel for £400. And Intel is the better gaming CPU...

Then that's basically a no brainer. Even if you where to do some workstation type stuff like rendering videos the CPU will more than fine for it because it won't be for that long.

[vadim]

引用自 Citizen Cook：

This is true. I built my current PC for £800. That gave me a system more powerful than the Xbox One/PS4.

Now, to build a PC that can rival the Xbox Series X/PS5 I would need to spend over £1500

You are trying to compare current PC with future (i.e. unreleased yet) consoles. This is not right. To build PC as powerful as XBox series X it will be enough to buy hypothetical Ryzen 3 4300 + cheapest motherboard + GTX 3050 (numbers are fictional).

[r.linder]

引用自 vadim：

引用自 Citizen Cook：

This is true. I built my current PC for £800. That gave me a system more powerful than the Xbox One/PS4.

Now, to build a PC that can rival the Xbox Series X/PS5 I would need to spend over £1500

You are trying to compare current PC with future (i.e. unreleased yet) consoles. This is not right. To build PC as powerful as XBox series X it will be enough to buy hypothetical Ryzen 3 4300 + cheapest motherboard + GTX 3050 (numbers are fictional).

And how would you know that when it's unreleased? Don't make assumptions that it won't be a big difference over the XB1X.

[vadim]

引用自 Escorve：

And how would you know that when it's unreleased? Don't make assumptions that it won't be a big difference over the XB1X.

On the one hand, we can make very reasonable assumptions about the performance of future low-end models of the Ampere cards, based on the performance of already released graphics.
Second, if you don't know neither performance nor cost of the future products (which is true), you cannot make assumptions how much it will cost to build a PC with equivalent performance. Simple as that.

P.S. No one denies PC should cost more than console just because of different sale policy. But difference never was huge.

[Citizen Cook]

An Intel i7 10700K CPU casts almost as much as the PS5

[Grimy_RIck]

引用自 Citizen Cook：

An Intel i7 10700K CPU casts almost as much as the PS5

No one builds a PC if they are bothered about cost VS a console, why even compare to console, just build a PC with specs that you are happy with, and that meet your needs, no need to worry about what a console can do.

[Citizen Cook]

引用自 Grimy_RIck：

引用自 Citizen Cook：

An Intel i7 10700K CPU casts almost as much as the PS5

No one builds a PC if they are bothered about cost VS a console...

I do. I realize that a console will always be cheaper, but I still try to beat them on specs on a 'reasonable' budget.

[vadim]

You cannot compare PCs/consoles prices not taking into account game prices.