Is 10gb enough

[Deronatron]

So nvidia have a 3080 10gb but how long will that last for in future gaming

[_I_]

too much vram cant hurt, but not enough will have problems, it all depends on the game and settings
but the bigger diff is the gpu core

3080 is a new higher end gpu
will be very good at current games, but nobody knows for how long it will be able to max future games at 1080p

ex. if some instruction sets are released in the future that the 3090s/ti/mega+ does not support it will not run it nearly as well as a lower tier future card that supports those instructions

[vadim]

Publicado originalmente por Deronatron:

So nvidia have a 3080 10gb but how long will that last for in future gaming

GPU becomes obsolete because of insufficient performance, not because of insufficient VRAM size.

[Chill-Out-Zone]

Publicado originalmente por Deronatron:

So nvidia have a 3080 10gb but how long will that last for in future gaming

It would last 3 years before they start another hype, but your graphic card will be atleast 7 - 9 years before the games gets to hard to drive.

[Lord Flashheart]

Publicado originalmente por Deronatron:

So nvidia have a 3080 10gb but how long will that last for in future gaming

Interesting question.
The memory is fast enough.

As I see it:
RTX 3090 - the initial moneymaker for nvidia for those that want the best.
RTX 3080 - fast memory and a good option for those who want good performance without paying stupid amounts.
RTX 3070 - price/performance winner.

I thjink neither the RTX 3080 or 3070 will have enough memory for long term use. That is where nvidia will make more money later on through upgrades.
With unreal engine 5 games & lazy ports from consoles, my guess is no.

I have my gtx 1080 ti still so not upgrading yet. When those oh so pretty and power hungry games for the UE5 game engine come out, I will be looking for around 16GB memory on the GPU if available. The same total memory on new consoles to hopefully help with the bad ports.

Edit. Also check out MS flight sim 2020 youtube videos that show VRAM usage. It is apparently fairly high.

[vadim]

Publicado originalmente por Mamba Bajamba:

I will be looking for around 16GB memory on the GPU if available. The same total memory on new consoles to hopefully help with the bad ports.

People love numbers, naive reasoning and marketing hype. They care much less about their real needs.

[Supafly]

The 16 GB GDDR isn't purely for the GPU.

I still haven't seen any specs that list GDDR for GPU and normal DDR ram for everything else separately. You know like you PC has.

GPU memory = GDDR
Main memory = DDR


https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/xbox-series-x-full-specs-revealed-just-how-powerful-is-microsofts-next-gen-console

The Xbox Series X 16GB of GDDR6 memory – That won't all be used in games
Games will get a total of 13.5GB – 10GB of GPU optimal memory.

So that's the same 10GB amount you'd find on the RTX 3080

6GB will be 3.5GB standard memory and 2.5GB is reserved for the operating system.

So an PC with a RTX 3080 and it's 10 GB GDDR6 wil have same memory as a Xbox series X. I'm assuming PS5 will have a similar split of it's 16GB GDDR6.

Now PC's won't have 6GB of DDR6 but we will likely have 16GB of DDR4 so the slower speeds shouldn't be a major difference as we can have more loaded into memory to help offset speed differnences.

[vadim]

Isn't it obvious that graphic with 16 GB GDDR6x VRAM should be slower than graphic with 10 GB VRAM?

[Tiberius]

If you play games with lots of graphical mods, you will need more than 10gb. Even skyrim with mods can use more than 10gb of vram.

For most games (1440p), 10gb are more than enough i suppose

[nullable]

Publicado originalmente por Tiberius:

If you play games with lots of graphical mods, you will need more than 10gb. Even skyrim with mods can use more than 10gb of vram.

For most games (1440p), 10gb are more than enough i suppose

Well with enough mods and tweaks any game can be modded to "need" more than the most VRAM you can get on a consumer card. Most people have less than 10GB, so while they could mod the game to use more than that they have to limit themselves to what they actually have... I'm thinking you don't know the difference between an edge case and typical case. Especially in context of OP's question methinks.

[Tiberius]

Publicado originalmente por Brockenstein:

Publicado originalmente por Tiberius:

If you play games with lots of graphical mods, you will need more than 10gb. Even skyrim with mods can use more than 10gb of vram.

For most games (1440p), 10gb are more than enough i suppose

Well with enough mods and tweaks any game can be modded to "need" more than the most VRAM you can get on a consumer card. Most people have less than 10GB, so while they could mod the game to use more than that they have to limit themselves to what they actually have... I'm thinking you don't know the difference between an edge case and typical case. Especially in context of OP's question methinks.

Idk man. Control with 4k + ray tracing already utilise 8gb vram. And control is not even an open world game

[Lord Flashheart]

Publicado originalmente por Suicidal Monkey:

The 16 GB GDDR isn't purely for the GPU.

I still haven't seen any specs that list GDDR for GPU and normal DDR ram for everything else separately. You know like you PC has.

GPU memory = GDDR
Main memory = DDR


https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/xbox-series-x-full-specs-revealed-just-how-powerful-is-microsofts-next-gen-console

The Xbox Series X 16GB of GDDR6 memory – That won't all be used in games
Games will get a total of 13.5GB – 10GB of GPU optimal memory.

So that's the same 10GB amount you'd find on the RTX 3080

6GB will be 3.5GB standard memory and 2.5GB is reserved for the operating system.

So an PC with a RTX 3080 and it's 10 GB GDDR6 wil have same memory as a Xbox series X. I'm assuming PS5 will have a similar split of it's 16GB GDDR6.

Now PC's won't have 6GB of DDR6 but we will likely have 16GB of DDR4 so the slower speeds shouldn't be a major difference as we can have more loaded into memory to help offset speed differnences.

I know the memory is not just for the GPU in the console. What I was trying to say was if a very badly optimised game goes from the console to PC, then 16GB VRAM may be needed for it to run OK. Of course the games will be what they are. It is only based on speculation at this point.

[Lord Flashheart]

Publicado originalmente por vadim:

Publicado originalmente por Deronatron:

So nvidia have a 3080 10gb but how long will that last for in future gaming

GPU becomes obsolete because of insufficient performance, not because of insufficient VRAM size.

That is true now.
This is just speculation.
Games are going to be huge in size.
A lot a game assets will be needed to render a scene.
The new nvidia cards will be decompressing a lot from the storage drives to the GPU memory.
As for the lovely UE5 demo, I watched the video and people with expertise on the matter out of curiosity.
One example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PmjQvowfAI

So I guess a lot of very fast VRAM is needed.

[Supafly]

Publicado originalmente por Mamba Bajamba:

I know the memory is not just for the GPU in the console. What I was trying to say was if a very badly optimised game goes from the console to PC, then 16GB VRAM may be needed for it to run OK. Of course the games will be what they are. It is only based on speculation at this point.

Optimisation wise that's possible but I'd suspect poor optimisation would likely require more CPU and GPU processing along with more 'standard' RAM usage than increased VRAM requirements. Plus if any extra Vram was required we'd be able to toggle something down.....pick the least noticeable setting if required.

Games have also had mods with similar and even better results whilst using less memory or unofficial patches.

Plus it'll likely be awhile before any relevant ports that experience this. At which time purchasing a card with more than 10GB of VRAM will be cheaper.

So it's the typical PC hardware cycle. Pay more for the most expensive and best now or pay less for high end and more reasonably priced now and run the risk of needing to upgrade in a year or 2 in order to max newer releases/ports.

[Guydodge]

10GB imo is low honestly this GPU should have been made with at least 12GB.
but yes its enough for now in a year to year and half you will be off of ultra settings
which nvidia knows.anyone who didnt buy the 2000 series and i applaud you.
its probably worth it minus 1080ti owners.i say wait for the release of the TI or
super versions.THEY WILL COME,because 10GB makes no sense other
than to nvidia to sell more cards down the line ..JMO

[vadim]

Publicado originalmente por Tiberius:

If you play games with lots of graphical mods, you will need more than 10gb. Even skyrim with mods can use more than 10gb of vram.

Do you understand difference between words "can use" and "need"?