hey, good server for gaming hosting? :: Hardware and Operating Systems

xSOSxHawkens Mar 20, 2018 @ 2:59pm

What games...

Allot of games no longer support self hosting servers. Devs claim its to increase consistency of their games and blame end users who host on sib-par connections or hardware for other players javing a poor experiance in game. So the nost simple sollution is for devs or publishers to make hosting a closed enviromwnt where you have to rent servers from companies who specialise in such services.

Sadly, the days of hosting mutiple slot servera from some adequate hardware on a 100/100 fibre connection as a personal service to others is going the way of the dodo.

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IceFoxX Mar 20, 2018 @ 3:03pm

Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:
What games...

Allot of games no longer support self hosting servers. Devs claim its to increase consistency of their games and blame end users who host on sib-par connections or hardware for other players javing a poor experiance in game. So the nost simple sollution is for devs or publishers to make hosting a closed enviromwnt where you have to rent servers from companies who specialise in such services.

Sadly, the days of hosting mutiple slot servera from some adequate hardware on a 100/100 fibre connection as a personal service to others is going the way of the dodo.

Wtf?publishers just wanna do money and decide if a game die or not...its business..they fuc of us after they got the money

Last edited by IceFoxX; Mar 20, 2018 @ 3:04pm

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Bluefish Mar 20, 2018 @ 3:14pm

Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:
What games...

Allot of games no longer support self hosting servers. Devs claim its to increase consistency of their games and blame end users who host on sib-par connections or hardware for other players javing a poor experiance in game. So the nost simple sollution is for devs or publishers to make hosting a closed enviromwnt where you have to rent servers from companies who specialise in such services.

Sadly, the days of hosting mutiple slot servera from some adequate hardware on a 100/100 fibre connection as a personal service to others is going the way of the dodo.

terraria, minecraft, csgo maybe, ark?

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IceFoxX Mar 20, 2018 @ 3:28pm

Originally posted by DJcedar:
Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:
What games...

Allot of games no longer support self hosting servers. Devs claim its to increase consistency of their games and blame end users who host on sib-par connections or hardware for other players javing a poor experiance in game. So the nost simple sollution is for devs or publishers to make hosting a closed enviromwnt where you have to rent servers from companies who specialise in such services.

Sadly, the days of hosting mutiple slot servera from some adequate hardware on a 100/100 fibre connection as a personal service to others is going the way of the dodo.
terraria, minecraft, csgo maybe, ark?

Csgo???was thinking source was the last with this abtility..go looks just like money maker...and ark...are there difference in the server quality? Im just focus at all the bugs inside and lags that i cant figure out any difference

Last edited by IceFoxX; Mar 20, 2018 @ 3:31pm

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xSOSxHawkens Mar 20, 2018 @ 4:41pm

Originally posted by IceFoxX:
Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:
What games...

Allot of games no longer support self hosting servers. Devs claim its to increase consistency of their games and blame end users who host on sib-par connections or hardware for other players javing a poor experiance in game. So the nost simple sollution is for devs or publishers to make hosting a closed enviromwnt where you have to rent servers from companies who specialise in such services.

Sadly, the days of hosting mutiple slot servera from some adequate hardware on a 100/100 fibre connection as a personal service to others is going the way of the dodo.
Wtf?publishers just wanna do money and decide if a game die or not...its business..they fuc of us after they got the money

Originally posted by DJcedar:
terraria, minecraft, csgo maybe, ark?

Many games have stopped supporting self hosted dedi's. Without looking up or listing them all, the biggest name I can think of off head would be the Battlefield Franchise and EA with their rent-a-server program.

But I know it was an issue starting years ago, as I used to self host myself and started having games I could not host for as the devs and publishers had removed the option.

Are there still some out there? Yeh

Is stand-alone dedicated support for end users something common or standard like it was at the end of the 90's and early 2000's where every online game had it as an option? Nah... Those days have passed.

Therefore, asking what game, is a very valid question. Should he reply something like BF1 the anwer will be that hardware doesnt matter. Should he reply he wants to host L4D2 or Minecraft it will be a different story...

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Bluefish Mar 20, 2018 @ 4:44pm

Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:
Originally posted by IceFoxX:
Wtf?publishers just wanna do money and decide if a game die or not...its business..they fuc of us after they got the money

Originally posted by DJcedar:
terraria, minecraft, csgo maybe, ark?

Many games have stopped supporting self hosted dedi's. Without looking up or listing them all, the biggest name I can think of off head would be the Battlefield Franchise and EA with their rent-a-server program.

But I know it was an issue starting years ago, as I used to self host myself and started having games I could not host for as the devs and publishers had removed the option.

Are there still some out there? Yeh

Is stand-alone dedicated support for end users something common or standard like it was at the end of the 90's and early 2000's where every online game had it as an option? Nah... Those days have passed.

Therefore, asking what game, is a very valid question. Should he reply something like BF1 the anwer will be that hardware doesnt matter. Should he reply he wants to host L4D2 or Minecraft it will be a different story...

yea I know most games don’t support it, I’m just asking if a X5680 and 24 gigs of ram will be fine, or if I should look at something else.

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xSOSxHawkens Mar 20, 2018 @ 4:55pm

Originally posted by DJcedar:
Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:

Many games have stopped supporting self hosted dedi's. Without looking up or listing them all, the biggest name I can think of off head would be the Battlefield Franchise and EA with their rent-a-server program.

But I know it was an issue starting years ago, as I used to self host myself and started having games I could not host for as the devs and publishers had removed the option.

Are there still some out there? Yeh

Is stand-alone dedicated support for end users something common or standard like it was at the end of the 90's and early 2000's where every online game had it as an option? Nah... Those days have passed.

Therefore, asking what game, is a very valid question. Should he reply something like BF1 the anwer will be that hardware doesnt matter. Should he reply he wants to host L4D2 or Minecraft it will be a different story...
yea I know most games don’t support it, I’m just asking if a X5680 and 24 gigs of ram will be fine, or if I should look at something else.

In therory that would be fine, but again, thats why I am asking what games...

If you just want to host a Halo PC dedi, I used to host 16 player servers of that on a P-III @ 800Mhz and 512MB ram...

If you want to host something like ARK its an entirely different animal.

Also, though hardware does matter, the connection is just as, if not more, important, What type of connection with your ISP do you have? Do you have a dedicated IP?

Instead of beating around the bush, be specific.

A) what game or games
b) what it the type and speed of your ISP

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Bluefish Mar 20, 2018 @ 5:24pm

Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:
Originally posted by DJcedar:
yea I know most games don’t support it, I’m just asking if a X5680 and 24 gigs of ram will be fine, or if I should look at something else.

In therory that would be fine, but again, thats why I am asking what games...

If you just want to host a Halo PC dedi, I used to host 16 player servers of that on a P-III @ 800Mhz and 512MB ram...

If you want to host something like ARK its an entirely different animal.

Also, though hardware does matter, the connection is just as, if not more, important, What type of connection with your ISP do you have? Do you have a dedicated IP?

Instead of beating around the bush, be specific.

A) what game or games
b) what it the type and speed of your ISP

csgo, modded terraria, possibly mcpe. thats all for rn, but ill prob start a civ 5 server aswell, and might try for some other games down the line. right now i have 120 down, 12 up and 100ms reponse times. i dont know what u mean by type, where do i look for that? edit: wasnt trying to beat around the bush, but rn the games i want to host arent very demanding, but in the futare i might switch games. i guess thats why it was kinda general.

Last edited by Bluefish; Mar 20, 2018 @ 5:26pm

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xSOSxHawkens Mar 20, 2018 @ 5:36pm

for type I meant fibre, cable, dsl, etc.

All offer up to gigabit, so all could potentially be an option for one trying to self host, but each has it quirks and proscons.

As for you speeds, you will be fine for hosting things for you and friends to play on, and might be OK to host one larger public server, up to maybe 24-32 slots... much over that and you will run into issues with upload more than likely. And even then you might have to go a bit lower for good stability in public slot count.

Some games are lighter on network traffic than others so you will have to figure out the load as you go.

120 down is fine.

Also keep in mind that you are not on a backbone, so when people search for servers you will always end up with a higher ping than a true dedi in a server farm.

As for the hardware side of things, going on a guess I am thinking Civ will be the most demanding to both CPU and memory, with terarria probably behind that, but those are just guesses.

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Bluefish Mar 21, 2018 @ 6:50pm

looking at getting a server, what one?

im looking at r710, 24 gigs of ram and an X5680. is that overkill, should i go cheaper? thanks for the advise

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John Doe Mar 21, 2018 @ 6:52pm

What for? That's such an old server.

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⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ Mar 21, 2018 @ 6:53pm

Please stick to one thread
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/2949168687329267664/

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Bluefish Mar 21, 2018 @ 7:45pm

Originally posted by ⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧:
Please stick to one thread
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/2949168687329267664/

Sorry, I didn’t think postings again was an issue.

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Bluefish Mar 21, 2018 @ 7:46pm

Originally posted by John Doe:
What for? That's such an old server.

Hosting games. Is there a newer one I should look at?

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John Doe Mar 21, 2018 @ 7:49pm

Which games and what kind of maps, how many players, etc...? Building your own is what I'd suggest, that server has an 8 year old CPU.

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