Thinking about a gaming desktop

[captainnick14]

Hey there. I'm thinking about getting a gaming desktop at some point. I've looked around online and I've found 3 options that I like and I wanted to see if they were any good. I'm not good with computers when it comes to understanding what hardware is good and bad so any advice would be greatly appreciated. Anyway here are the computers I'm looking at. For context I like to game a lot and I do video editing and content creation but not at the same time. Which of these would be my best bet?
Looking at budget under 1,500 usd, DIY using amd parts where possible.

[Mihryazd]

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A 3070 should be capable of 144 FPS (ultra settings) at 1440p in most games, so it's something that would last quite a few years at 1080p 60 and can be easily called overkill for gaming, but for rendering work it's still worthwhile

This guy did a video on youtube about a build. Is it any better compared to my build? Should I scrap my build? He had a goodle doc with all the info if you wanna see for yourself but I've pasted them here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g13kS1vdpKA&ab_channel=Brainus


MSI B550 Tomahawk - 179.99 : https://amzn.to/2R4fV1r

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB 3600 - $84.99 - https://amzn.to/2Z35UWG

PNY XLR8 1TB NVME - $104.99 - https://amzn.to/32RXpyF

Thermaltake Toughpower 750W 80+ Gold - $112.99: https://amzn.to/2ENzXuy

RTX 3070 - $499.00 - https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3070/

Corsair 275R Airflow - $86.99 - https://amzn.to/3bqCSVy
Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh - $98.99 - https://amzn.to/3hVq2RR

I had to scroll back to find your original parts list. As I said before, I suggest that you edit your original post with a link to your build in PCPartPicker so others can find it more easily.

That being said, the main differences I can see are:

- It uses a newer GPU than the 5600 XT. While the 5600 XT isn't bad, it's harder to recommend at this point considering it doesn't have ray tracing.
- It steps down to a 3600 which drops two cores
- It uses an NVMe SSD rather than a SATA. NVMe is faster on paper, but for normal usage you won't notice.

[emoticorpse]

captainnick14 eredeti hozzászólása:

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A 3070 should be capable of 144 FPS (ultra settings) at 1440p in most games, so it's something that would last quite a few years at 1080p 60 and can be easily called overkill for gaming, but for rendering work it's still worthwhile

This guy did a video on youtube about a build. Is it any better compared to my build? Should I scrap my build? He had a goodle doc with all the info if you wanna see for yourself but I've pasted them here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g13kS1vdpKA&ab_channel=Brainus


MSI B550 Tomahawk - 179.99 : https://amzn.to/2R4fV1r

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB 3600 - $84.99 - https://amzn.to/2Z35UWG

PNY XLR8 1TB NVME - $104.99 - https://amzn.to/32RXpyF

Thermaltake Toughpower 750W 80+ Gold - $112.99: https://amzn.to/2ENzXuy

RTX 3070 - $499.00 - https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3070/

Corsair 275R Airflow - $86.99 - https://amzn.to/3bqCSVy
Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh - $98.99 - https://amzn.to/3hVq2RR

Do you live near a Microcenter? if so you know they have better deals right? If not nevermind.

[captainnick14]

Mihryazd eredeti hozzászólása:

captainnick14 eredeti hozzászólása:

This guy did a video on youtube about a build. Is it any better compared to my build? Should I scrap my build? He had a goodle doc with all the info if you wanna see for yourself but I've pasted them here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g13kS1vdpKA&ab_channel=Brainus


MSI B550 Tomahawk - 179.99 : https://amzn.to/2R4fV1r

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB 3600 - $84.99 - https://amzn.to/2Z35UWG

PNY XLR8 1TB NVME - $104.99 - https://amzn.to/32RXpyF

Thermaltake Toughpower 750W 80+ Gold - $112.99: https://amzn.to/2ENzXuy

RTX 3070 - $499.00 - https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3070/

Corsair 275R Airflow - $86.99 - https://amzn.to/3bqCSVy
Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh - $98.99 - https://amzn.to/3hVq2RR

I had to scroll back to find your original parts list. As I said before, I suggest that you edit your original post with a link to your build in PCPartPicker so others can find it more easily.

That being said, the main differences I can see are:

- It uses a newer GPU than the 5600 XT. While the 5600 XT isn't bad, it's harder to recommend at this point considering it doesn't have ray tracing.
- It steps down to a 3600 which drops two cores
- It uses an NVMe SSD rather than a SATA. NVMe is faster on paper, but for normal usage you won't notice.

I'd do that but idk what I want in my build. Like I feel like it always changes. Do I want this cpu or that cpu with that gpu. Its crazy.

[XxzodazZ]

Sell off what you have.Buy cheap pc test bench.Buy good power supply.Go to newegg and buy new mb for 150$ new processor 300+$ Ram 150$ nvme 100$somthing like that

[captainnick14]

Mihryazd eredeti hozzászólása:

captainnick14 eredeti hozzászólása:

This guy did a video on youtube about a build. Is it any better compared to my build? Should I scrap my build? He had a goodle doc with all the info if you wanna see for yourself but I've pasted them here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g13kS1vdpKA&ab_channel=Brainus


MSI B550 Tomahawk - 179.99 : https://amzn.to/2R4fV1r

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB 3600 - $84.99 - https://amzn.to/2Z35UWG

PNY XLR8 1TB NVME - $104.99 - https://amzn.to/32RXpyF

Thermaltake Toughpower 750W 80+ Gold - $112.99: https://amzn.to/2ENzXuy

RTX 3070 - $499.00 - https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3070/

Corsair 275R Airflow - $86.99 - https://amzn.to/3bqCSVy
Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh - $98.99 - https://amzn.to/3hVq2RR

I had to scroll back to find your original parts list. As I said before, I suggest that you edit your original post with a link to your build in PCPartPicker so others can find it more easily.

That being said, the main differences I can see are:

- It uses a newer GPU than the 5600 XT. While the 5600 XT isn't bad, it's harder to recommend at this point considering it doesn't have ray tracing.
- It steps down to a 3600 which drops two cores
- It uses an NVMe SSD rather than a SATA. NVMe is faster on paper, but for normal usage you won't notice.

Ok will a 3070 & Ryzen 4000 work for me? If not, what's a build I can do? I don't care about the source. It can be youtube or a gaming website. I just don't know what to do anymore. :(

[r.linder]

captainnick14 eredeti hozzászólása:

Mihryazd eredeti hozzászólása:

I had to scroll back to find your original parts list. As I said before, I suggest that you edit your original post with a link to your build in PCPartPicker so others can find it more easily.

That being said, the main differences I can see are:

- It uses a newer GPU than the 5600 XT. While the 5600 XT isn't bad, it's harder to recommend at this point considering it doesn't have ray tracing.
- It steps down to a 3600 which drops two cores
- It uses an NVMe SSD rather than a SATA. NVMe is faster on paper, but for normal usage you won't notice.

Ok will a 3070 & Ryzen 4000 work for me? If not, what's a build I can do? I don't care about the source. It can be youtube or a gaming website. I just don't know what to do anymore. :(

Should be fine but we wont know till both those product lines are actually out for reviewers.

[emoticorpse]

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captainnick14 eredeti hozzászólása:

Ok will a 3070 & Ryzen 4000 work for me? If not, what's a build I can do? I don't care about the source. It can be youtube or a gaming website. I just don't know what to do anymore. :(

Should be fine but we wont know till both those product lines are actually out for reviewers.

Well, he should still be fine no matter what though right? They can't possibly be slower than current hardware. If he waits to buy the only thing he has to lose is he waited. Still would pay off because prices lowering.

[captainnick14]

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Should be fine but we wont know till both those product lines are actually out for reviewers.

Well, he should still be fine no matter what though right? They can't possibly be slower than current hardware. If he waits to buy the only thing he has to lose is he waited. Still would pay off because prices lowering.

What are the pros and cons of waiting vs not waiting? I mean, it seems like a tough choice

[emoticorpse]

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Well, he should still be fine no matter what though right? They can't possibly be slower than current hardware. If he waits to buy the only thing he has to lose is he waited. Still would pay off because prices lowering.

What are the pros and cons of waiting vs not waiting? I mean, it seems like a tough choice

pro is you can get newer stuff when it's released or older stuff cheaper

negative is the entire time you're waiting, you're NOT experiencing the new hardware

[Mihryazd]

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Well, he should still be fine no matter what though right? They can't possibly be slower than current hardware. If he waits to buy the only thing he has to lose is he waited. Still would pay off because prices lowering.

What are the pros and cons of waiting vs not waiting? I mean, it seems like a tough choice

There is always something better around the corner. When people say wait, it's usually because something is really close to launch (maybe a few weeks). If they were months away, that would be a different story.

When new parts drop and reviews come out, you can decide whether to go with the new part, or stick with slightly older.

[captainnick14]

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captainnick14 eredeti hozzászólása:

What are the pros and cons of waiting vs not waiting? I mean, it seems like a tough choice

There is always something better around the corner. When people say wait, it's usually because something is really close to launch (maybe a few weeks). If they were months away, that would be a different story.

When new parts drop and reviews come out, you can decide whether to go with the new part, or stick with slightly older.

Right that make sense but at the same time it makes me wonder if my build is bad in the sense that i can't make my mind up w what parts i wanna use. I doubt myself and then i look up builds for ideas and everyone has their own opinion and that makes me question everything.

[Reaper]

I'm also building a PC as well. Content creation and gaming.

CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 3600X: $210

Motherboard - GIGABYTE B550 Gaming X (3 Fan) (ATX): $130
*Cheapest full size motherboard that I could find.
*Doesn't have built-in WiFi, but you can get a WiFi card or wifi usb stick.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B550-GAMING-X-rev-10#kf

RAM - Patriot Viper 4 Blackout (x2) 8GB 3200MHz: $43

GPU - GEFORCE RTX 3070: $500

Case - Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass: $90
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dNnMC0jtfos

Power Supply - EVGA 600 BR, 80+ BRONZE 600W: $63
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X_wtoCBahhM

Case Fan - Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM (70 cfm) (x5): $70
*If you don't want to go with water cooling then you can go with a fan setup.
*Airflow (cfm) over rpm, but higher rpm and flow = more noise.

Windows 10 Home 64bit: $140
Seagate BarraCuda 2TB: $55
4 Pin PWM Fan Splitter: $12

(*Taking out 1TB SSD from laptop and putting it into desktop)

Total: $1,313

Since you have a bigger buget then me, you can get the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X witch is $290. You can also get a NVMe card has well.

Note: for Bluetooth you can get a usb dongle one that's $20 or less, built-in is $50 or more. Same with built-in WiFi motherboard.

Note 2: Get your parts on Cyber Monday there will be cheaper expect the gpu because it's new.

If you don't want to spend $500 on a gpu, the gtx 1660 super is $240 while the gtx 1660 to is $300. Both are good for 1080p-1440p gaming. But slow on content creation, but for the price it's worth it. Same performance has the gtx 1070 but the gpu is like $500.

[captainnick14]

Reaper eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm also building a PC as well. Content creation and gaming.

CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 3600X: $210

Motherboard - GIGABYTE B550 Gaming X (3 Fan) (ATX): $130
*Cheapest full size motherboard that I could find.
*Doesn't have built-in WiFi, but you can get a WiFi card or wifi usb stick.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B550-GAMING-X-rev-10#kf

RAM - Patriot Viper 4 Blackout (x2) 8GB 3200MHz: $43

GPU - GEFORCE RTX 3070: $500

Case - Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass: $90
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dNnMC0jtfos

Power Supply - EVGA 600 BR, 80+ BRONZE 600W: $63
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X_wtoCBahhM

Case Fan - Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM (70 cfm) (x5): $70
*If you don't want to go with water cooling then you can go with a fan setup.
*Airflow (cfm) over rpm, but higher rpm and flow = more noise.

Windows 10 Home 64bit: $140
Seagate BarraCuda 2TB: $55
4 Pin PWM Fan Splitter: $12

(*Taking out 1TB SSD from laptop and putting it into desktop)

Total: $1,313

Since you have a bigger buget then me, you can get the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X witch is $290. You can also get a NVMe card has well.

Note: for Bluetooth you can get a usb dongle one that's $20 or less, built-in is $50 or more. Same with built-in WiFi motherboard.

Note 2: Get your parts on Cyber Monday there will be cheaper expect the gpu because it's new.

If you don't want to spend $500 on a gpu, the gtx 1660 super is $240 while the gtx 1660 to is $300. Both are good for 1080p-1440p gaming. But slow on content creation, but for the price it's worth it. Same performance has the gtx 1070 but the gpu is like $500.

really can't decide if I want my build to be an all amd or mixed parts build with an amd cpu and a gpu from nvidea.

[r.linder]

captainnick14 eredeti hozzászólása:

Reaper eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm also building a PC as well. Content creation and gaming.

CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 3600X: $210

Motherboard - GIGABYTE B550 Gaming X (3 Fan) (ATX): $130
*Cheapest full size motherboard that I could find.
*Doesn't have built-in WiFi, but you can get a WiFi card or wifi usb stick.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B550-GAMING-X-rev-10#kf

RAM - Patriot Viper 4 Blackout (x2) 8GB 3200MHz: $43

GPU - GEFORCE RTX 3070: $500

Case - Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass: $90
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dNnMC0jtfos

Power Supply - EVGA 600 BR, 80+ BRONZE 600W: $63
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X_wtoCBahhM

Case Fan - Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM (70 cfm) (x5): $70
*If you don't want to go with water cooling then you can go with a fan setup.
*Airflow (cfm) over rpm, but higher rpm and flow = more noise.

Windows 10 Home 64bit: $140
Seagate BarraCuda 2TB: $55
4 Pin PWM Fan Splitter: $12

(*Taking out 1TB SSD from laptop and putting it into desktop)

Total: $1,313

Since you have a bigger buget then me, you can get the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X witch is $290. You can also get a NVMe card has well.

Note: for Bluetooth you can get a usb dongle one that's $20 or less, built-in is $50 or more. Same with built-in WiFi motherboard.

Note 2: Get your parts on Cyber Monday there will be cheaper expect the gpu because it's new.

If you don't want to spend $500 on a gpu, the gtx 1660 super is $240 while the gtx 1660 to is $300. Both are good for 1080p-1440p gaming. But slow on content creation, but for the price it's worth it. Same performance has the gtx 1070 but the gpu is like $500.

really can't decide if I want my build to be an all amd or mixed parts build with an amd cpu and a gpu from nvidea.

Radeon (AMD GPU division) has nothing good to offer because of NVIDIA's RTX 3000 series coming in a few weeks. Until AMD releases GPUs that are comparable for a better price, there's no value in their GPUs unless you can get them for half of what they're sold for right now, at least.

[Reaper]

Amd vs Intel:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tomshardware.com/amp/features/amd-vs-intel-cpus

Amd vs Nvidia:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tomshardware.com/amp/features/amd-vs-nvidia-gpus

GPU building guide 2020:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-buying-guide,5844.html

Graphics Card Manufacturers (Amd/Nvidia):
https://graphicscardhub.com/graphics-card-manufacturers-brands/

Usually if you are on a budget then amd is the way to go. But if you want a powerful pc then intel and Nvidia is the way to go. If you are on a budget, but still want a powerful enough pc then get an amd cpu and Nvidia gpu (that's what I did).

Gpu manufacturers all have there ups and downs. Asus is more expensive and I heard that they have bad customer support. Well EVGA (usa only) have 3+ years warranty and great customer support. Asus makes both amd and Nvidia gpus, well EVGA only makes Nvidia gpus. For me I'm going with EVGA, because warranty and support. But in order to get the benefits from EVGA you have to buy from there main website and not from a 3rd party retailer.