Nvidia or AMD ???

[XxzodazZ]

I was going to buy a 3080,but who wants to have a Gpu with a new adapter that draws a absurd amount of power?? I have about lost my patience with Nvidia, AMD is looking better all the time

[Monk]

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The GPUs haven't even been released for testing, so how would you even know that Ampere is more or less power efficient than Turing?
You don't.

Because, Nvidia (or any tech company) will never release a new architecture which is less efficient than their previous architecture.

Common sense. That's how i know.

Err.... Most new gpu architectures have used more power than the previous one at the high end, its not magic, you can only get more out with more power in at this point until we move off silicon.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

Publicado originalmente por 🌈Cloud Boy🌈:

Because, Nvidia (or any tech company) will never release a new architecture which is less efficient than their previous architecture.

Common sense. That's how i know.

Err.... Most new gpu architectures have used more power than the previous one at the high end, its not magic, you can only get more out with more power in at this point until we move off silicon.

Sorry, I don't agree with you.

in newer architecture, you get same performance but with lesser power draw.

For example, GTX 980TI has same performance as GTX 1070,
But GTX 1070 uses less power.

If you say otherwise, You have to show me some proof.

[AbedsBrother]

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Did you even read my post??? It was the Strix version.

I didn't pay more atenttion at first when i read, true, but still i feel like the ASUS STRIX series is still a very good option in terms of versions of same GPU.

Is it my fault you had a bad experience with your 2080 ?

I'm just sayin mine is 4 years old and still going like a champ.

Maybe for Nvidia, but Strix was horrible for Radeon's Navi before Asus was basically shamed into fixing it.

[Monk]

Publicado originalmente por 🌈Cloud Boy🌈:

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

Err.... Most new gpu architectures have used more power than the previous one at the high end, its not magic, you can only get more out with more power in at this point until we move off silicon.

Sorry, I don't agree with you.

in newer architecture, you get same performance but with lesser power draw.

For example, GTX 980TI has same performance as GTX 1070,
But GTX 1070 uses less power. :lunar2020thinkingtiger:

If you say otherwise, You have to show me some proof. :lunar2020hearteyesrabbit: :lunar2020hearteyesrabbit:

I said on the high end, not sticking with the same performance, so my point still stands.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

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Publicado originalmente por 🌈Cloud Boy🌈:

Sorry, I don't agree with you.

in newer architecture, you get same performance but with lesser power draw.

For example, GTX 980TI has same performance as GTX 1070,
But GTX 1070 uses less power.

If you say otherwise, You have to show me some proof.

I said on the high end, not sticking with the same performance, so my point still stands.

Yes your point still stands.
Everything is written in the comment (s) above, in this thread.
Everybody can read it.

Thanks.

[Monk]

You are aware that means you are wrong right? The high end goes up in power nearly every generation to gain more performance.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

You are aware that means you are wrong right? The high end goes up in power nearly every generation to gain more performance.

You said, here ^
''The high end goes up in power nearly every generation to gain more performance''

I know this. Everybody knows this.
That was not my point, at all.
You are arguing about the wrong point all along.

Please read my first Comment.
Comment No # 39.
Where i clearly wrote,
''if Next gen card is 30% faster, it will obviously require more power''.

[Monk]

And I'll refer you to post 44, which I quoted you in post 47, where you say

'Because, Nvidia (or any tech company) will never release a new architecture which is less efficient than their previous architecture.

Common sense. That's how i know'

Which is the very point I was contesting, you said they are all more efficient, then later corrected yourself, well done.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

And I'll refer you to post 44, which I quoted you in post 47, where you say

'Because, Nvidia (or any tech company) will never release a new architecture which is less efficient than their previous architecture.

Common sense. That's how i know'

Which is the very point I was contesting, you said they are all more efficient, then later corrected yourself, well done.

Do you know what the word ''efficient'' means?
it has nothing to do with maximum or minimum power draws.
Google it.

''efficient'' means-
Getting more outputs while using lesser power.

A GPU can be efficient even if it draws 500 Watts of power alone, if it delivers significant performance.
It's a relative of ''Power Vs performance'' ratio.

So what i said in Comment No. #44 is true. Newer architectures are always efficient. Because they draws lesser power than the previous generation while outputting same or more performance.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

To give you an example, RTX 2080Ti is far more efficient than GTX 770, because RTX 2080Ti delivers 5 times (5x ) more performance than GTX 770 while draws only 50 watts of MORE power.

[AdahnGorion]

3dfx Interactive


Imagine a Voodoo card revival and huge investment into it.. that might get Nvidia and AMD working again.. But what should we call it?

Voodoo Six

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

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Which is the very point I was contesting, you said they are all more efficient, then later corrected yourself, well done.

There is No need to correct myself.
I am still saying the same thing.
Newer architecture are All More Efficient.

Because it is true.

[XxzodazZ]

I think these newer cards however efficient they are need to have more power/current then previous gens due to the demands we are putting on them with modern gaming. Probably a trend we should get used to. At least until further improvements are done to gain more performance with less power draw. I just think It would be very impressive to have a 3090 draw 200 watts max from the wall