Best $500 Prebuilt?

[brandon♿]

Is this really a good deal for only $500? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077S27YLP/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1513647485&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=hp+pavilion

[InfinityJosh]

⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧님이 먼저 게시:

That's the PSU from the 580-023w from the link.
"300 W internal uATX E-STAR 6.0 Bronze power supply"
Soruce: HP

Crap

[brandon♿]

So would you still recommend this if I can upgrade the psu to a 700w right away?

⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧님이 먼저 게시:

That's the PSU from the 580-023w from the link.
"300 W internal uATX E-STAR 6.0 Bronze power supply"
Soruce: HP

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:

I dont think it has MATX PSU, it would have slim case then and there are no slim GTX 1060 that could fit in there, seems like pretty standard micro-ATX tower and should take ATX PSU.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

EARTH IS FLAT님이 먼저 게시:

So would you still recommend this if I can upgrade the psu to a 700w right away?

⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧님이 먼저 게시:

That's the PSU from the 580-023w from the link.
"300 W internal uATX E-STAR 6.0 Bronze power supply"
Soruce: HP

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:

I dont think it has MATX PSU, it would have slim case then and there are no slim GTX 1060 that could fit in there, seems like pretty standard micro-ATX tower and should take ATX PSU.

No, looks like it indeed has uATX PSU, you cant fit ATX size 700W PSU in there. Now I see why they sell it so freaking cheap. Really stupid engineering solution.

[brandon♿]

Can I still get away with a 300w it comes with then?

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:

EARTH IS FLAT님이 먼저 게시:

So would you still recommend this if I can upgrade the psu to a 700w right away?

No, looks like it indeed has uATX PSU, you cant fit ATX size 700W PSU in there. Now I see why they sell it so freaking cheap. Really stupid engineering solution.

[⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧]

EARTH IS FLAT님이 먼저 게시:

Can I still get away with a 300w it comes with then?

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:

No, looks like it indeed has uATX PSU, you cant fit ATX size 700W PSU in there. Now I see why they sell it so freaking cheap. Really stupid engineering solution.

It will work, but 300w isn't thaat much and don't think the hp has the same quality as seasonic or so.

[Arya]

⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧님이 먼저 게시:

It will work, but 300w isn't thaat much and don't think the hp has the same quality as seasonic or so.

Knowing HP it'll be extremely low quality. All of the parts will be.

[brandon♿]

So are micro atx psu the same thing? And will any after market coolers for the i5 fit? The stock cooler is trash I’m pretty sure.

[Monk]

There's no need to change anything in it, companies like hp while using cheaper parts (the orcs they can get parts at is drastically lower than us consumers due to the sheer number they buy remember), don't actually use bad or dangerous ones, the law suits wouldn't be worth it, hell they are one of the biggest pc manufacturers in the world (top 3), the system will work fine as stock and 300w is ample for it's specs.

Same for the stock cooler, while they can get a bit noisy, they work fine for keeping the chip at safe temps and it shouldn't throttle, it's not like Intel chips run anywhere near their limits which is why the K variants have such huge overclocking headroom compared to amd ryzen which only have a little headroom for overclocking.

[Arya]

EARTH IS FLAT님이 먼저 게시:

So are micro atx psu the same thing? And will any after market coolers for the i5 fit? The stock cooler is trash I’m pretty sure.

I doubt there'd be space for an aftermarket cooler. Again the CPU isn't the worry here, it's thge GTX1060 that would overheat. And there's nothing you could do to fix that, it's just bad design.

[Casper]

Wolfey님이 먼저 게시:

EDIT: Alright, that thing has a lot wrong with it. In order of severity:

> No proper cooling system. Gaming PCs need airflow, this doesn't have an airflow cooling system. Overheating is guaranteed.

> Not enough memory to run modern games. What's the point of a gaming PC that can't run games?

> Obsolete. The i5 7400 is only a year old, but conceptually it's a dinosaur. I'm guessing this is why it's so cheap, HP know they don't stand a hope in hell of selling this obsolete heap of junk so they're selling it at scrap-value to cut losses.

Verdict: Absolutely god-awful. Not worth having, even if you're desperate for a new system.

Wolfey님이 먼저 게시:

It's not a good deal at all. It's an obsolete build, with obvious mechanical failures. It'll break and turn into a moneypit within a couple of months.

Funny enough, mine is working great to this day with only a ram upgrade, but even that was only like two months ago. The ceiling is pretty low at ddr4-2400 limits and 16gb but it's better than none. I have run modern games since I've gotten it, and the only thing I can't do is max graphics in multiplayer games or shooters? but i don't much care for playing those as often as i do anything else like RPGs. This thing ran BDO great for a while, streamed on wifi, etc.

Thing was a fantastic deal. Only now even considering upgrading just because I need more space in the case.

[Vulkan]

ClaryFey님이 먼저 게시:

Wolfey님이 먼저 게시:

EDIT: Alright, that thing has a lot wrong with it. In order of severity:

> No proper cooling system. Gaming PCs need airflow, this doesn't have an airflow cooling system. Overheating is guaranteed.

> Not enough memory to run modern games. What's the point of a gaming PC that can't run games?

> Obsolete. The i5 7400 is only a year old, but conceptually it's a dinosaur. I'm guessing this is why it's so cheap, HP know they don't stand a hope in hell of selling this obsolete heap of junk so they're selling it at scrap-value to cut losses.

Verdict: Absolutely god-awful. Not worth having, even if you're desperate for a new system.

Wolfey님이 먼저 게시:

It's not a good deal at all. It's an obsolete build, with obvious mechanical failures. It'll break and turn into a moneypit within a couple of months.

Funny enough, mine is working great to this day with only a ram upgrade, but even that was only like two months ago. The ceiling is pretty low at ddr4-2400 limits and 16gb but it's better than none. I have run modern games since I've gotten it, and the only thing I can't do is max graphics in multiplayer games or shooters? but i don't much care for playing those as often as i do anything else like RPGs. This thing ran BDO great for a while, streamed on wifi, etc.

Thing was a fantastic deal. Only now even considering upgrading just because I need more space in the case.

Begone fowl necromancer! We are but simple pc enthusiasts.

[Irondog]

This is another old thread from 2017

They need to bury these.

[InfinityJosh]

OP still saving for an upgrade