Best $500 Prebuilt?

[brandon♿]

Is this really a good deal for only $500? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077S27YLP/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1513647485&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=hp+pavilion

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Yeah actually it is, i5 and GTX 1060 3 GB for $500 is pretty good deal.

[36564176]

it doesnt look super cool so no where's the obscene amount of RGB

[Arya]

Although it's a very good deal, I wouldn't touch that PC with a ten foot pole. For the sole reason that it's a suspiciously good deal. Always look a gift-horse in the mouth.

That PC is selling for less than what it would cost to build. The three most expensive parts together add up to $500 or more. So why is it so cheap? Obviously it'll have the cheapest and worst components on the market, but even that wouldn't get you under $500.

All prebuilt PCs are a bad idea. They use the very worst parts on the market, they have unreliable and even dangerous PSUs, and they're horribly prone to mechanical problems. Upgrading and repairing them is a nightmare because of non-standardised(and substandard) parts. And that's if you buy a good one.

And this isn't a good one. To be selling that cheap, there must be something horribly wrong with it.

EDIT: Alright, that thing has a lot wrong with it. In order of severity:

> No proper cooling system. Gaming PCs need airflow, this doesn't have an airflow cooling system. Overheating is guaranteed.

> Not enough memory to run modern games. What's the point of a gaming PC that can't run games?

> Obsolete. The i5 7400 is only a year old, but conceptually it's a dinosaur. I'm guessing this is why it's so cheap, HP know they don't stand a hope in hell of selling this obsolete heap of junk so they're selling it at scrap-value to cut losses.

Verdict: Absolutely god-awful. Not worth having, even if you're desperate for a new system.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

I think the i5-7400 is main reason why they sell it so cheap but it's still quite capable CPU, way better then your usual Pentium that you would use to build $500 rig.
One problem with it is the 300W PSU, this is kinda borderline for GTX 1060 and probably really rubbish quality.

[Arya]

Publicado originalmente por Rumpelcrutchskin:

I think the i5-7400 is main reason why they sell it so cheap but it's still quite capable CPU, way better then your usual Pentium that you would use to build $500 rig.
One problem with it is the 300W PSU, this is kinda borderline for GTX 1060 and probably really rubbish quality.

And the fact it basically has no cooling system.

This will be the cheapest 1060 possible, probably a blower model. Given blower 1060s already get quite hot, would you really want to put it into a PC with no internal airflow?

This PC wraps everything PC building mistake I was taught not to make into a single unified horror show.

[Bvllzye]

its a good deal dont listen to these people " i bet it will come with a glued GPU"

[Arya]

It's not a good deal at all. It's an obsolete build, with obvious mechanical failures. It'll break and turn into a moneypit within a couple of months.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Swap the PSU to $40 bronze, take the sidepanel off and it will run.

[ugafan]

check to see if any walmarts have it in stock near you. some were marked down to like $350

[brandon♿]

Well I have a 700w psu from my old pc do you think I could fit a hyper 212 ego in this?

[just.kamk /idle]

Publicado originalmente por EARTH IS FLAT:

Well I have a 700w psu from my old pc do you think I could fit a hyper 212 ego in this?

Needs some micro ATX PSU, so yours won't fit.
212: pretty sure won't fit either.

[Arya]

Publicado originalmente por EARTH IS FLAT:

Well I have a 700w psu from my old pc do you think I could fit a hyper 212 ego in this?

Nope and Nope. There isn't enough space for a 212 EVO, and the PSU won't fit because this takes an MATX PSU instead.

I'm not so worried about the CPU overheating, what should concern you is the GPU. Bottom-tier 1060s get pretty hot even on a good day, and this thing has absolutely no ariflow whatsoever. My main worry is baking the graphics card and thus never getting full power from it.

You're not going to kill the system, but you are going to gimp your performance something awful.

[brandon♿]

You sure it says he psu is a uATX that won’t fit normal sized psu?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

I dont think it has MATX PSU, it would have slim case then and there are no slim GTX 1060 that could fit in there, seems like pretty standard micro-ATX tower and should take ATX PSU.

[⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧]

That's the PSU from the 580-023w from the link.
"300 W internal uATX E-STAR 6.0 Bronze power supply"
Soruce: HP