Power plan (cpu power plan, 100 percent or balanced)

[DaGabaGhoul]

Basically I was looking at my new gaming rigs power plan. I7 8700k 1080ti 32 gigs of ram. I saw that it was at high performance and thats fine. especially since Ive seen on forums here and there 1080tis acting odd on balanced or whatever. Anyways I decided to customize the high performance plan for the cpu to act as if its on balanced. I see alot of people say cpu running at 100 percent is not good for longevity. Then I started thinking well do the fluctuating voltages do any damge rather than having it run at the steady voltage at 100 percent. so yea basically Is it better to have it going 100 percent or is it fine that I made a profile for it to flucate from 5 to 100 depending on load?

[Washell]

High performance power plan ≠ hardware constantly running at 100%.

It just means it can run 100% when asked to.

Originally posted by W1LLTACULAR:

Then I started thinking well do the fluctuating voltages do any damge rather than having it run at the steady voltage at 100 percent.

Majority of failures are the cause of thermal stress, and the only way to avoid thermal stress is to leave your system turned off. Fluctuating voltages help reduce thermal stress.

https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/1871852/DfR_Solutions_Website/Resources-Archived/White-Papers/Reliability/Temperature-Cycling-and-Fatigue-in-Electronics1.pdf

That said, accidents and manufacturing errors aside, your system will be obsolete before it dies from thermal stress.

Originally posted by W1LLTACULAR:

Basically I was looking at my new gaming rigs power plan. I7 8700k 1080ti 32 gigs of ram.

Don't buy such hardware and then put it on a short leash.

[Fluffy]

it makes no difference to cpu life if you run it at 100% speed or not the cpu is also meant to have fluctuating voltage within certain limits.. cpu degradation occurs if the voltage exceeds those limits which is what can happen for people who raise voltage quite a bit for a very high oc OR very high temperatures but the cpu will throttle itself at high temps

all your doing is creating more heat as it will go to 100% only when it needs it so the balanced 5-100% is ideal

[Revelene]

Power plan in Windows only has one setting that affects the GPU, and that is Link State Power Management. I recommend this to be set to "off". It just limits power usage and can cause latency, and other issues, so having it off is best on a gaming PC.

Honestly, I recommend high performance profile. You're not on a laptop, so most of these settings are pretty much pointless.

It will not make your hardware run any harder. It will negate C-states and put your CPU at full frequency, but that is about it. Load can still fluctuate, as it is not adding any loads. Your GPU will still be able to fluctuate frequency, but if you want it at full freq like the CPU, you can set high performance under the Nvidia control panel.

[Kaihekoa]

I run the balanced power profile and enable the power saving BIOS options on my overclocked system and don't have any performance or stability issues. If I benchmark, I turn them off; otherwise, I don't notice a difference. If you pay your own power bill, it does measurably lower energy consumption.

[Revelene]

Originally posted by Kaihekoa:

I run the balanced power profile and enable the power saving BIOS options on my overclocked system and don't have any performance or stability issues. If I benchmark, I turn them off; otherwise, I don't notice a difference. If you pay your own power bill, it does measurably lower energy consumption.

Sometimes it can cause issues, sometimes not.

More times than not, it can cause hang ups when Windows doesn't communicate properly and ramp up when needed. This is why I prefer motherboard power saving features, over Windows power saving features, if I do use them at all. Typically, I don't.

As someone that pays their own power bill, and has too many computers for their own good, I know the feels when you get a high electricity bill... but one PC wouldn't see that much of a difference between balanced or high performance on a power bill.

[DaGabaGhoul]

Originally posted by Washell:

High performance power plan ≠ hardware constantly running at 100%.

It just means it can run 100% when asked to.

Originally posted by W1LLTACULAR:

Then I started thinking well do the fluctuating voltages do any damge rather than having it run at the steady voltage at 100 percent.

Majority of failures are the cause of thermal stress, and the only way to avoid thermal stress is to leave your system turned off. Fluctuating voltages help reduce thermal stress.

https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/1871852/DfR_Solutions_Website/Resources-Archived/White-Papers/Reliability/Temperature-Cycling-and-Fatigue-in-Electronics1.pdf

That said, accidents and manufacturing errors aside, your system will be obsolete before it dies from thermal stress.

Originally posted by W1LLTACULAR:

Basically I was looking at my new gaming rigs power plan. I7 8700k 1080ti 32 gigs of ram.

Don't buy such hardware and then put it on a short leash.

I just noticed it was constantly running at 4.7 ghz no matter what. is that a problem? that is what led met to change the power plan to the cpu running at 5 percent when doing nothing and 100 percent when under load.

Originally posted by Fluffy:

it makes no difference to cpu life if you run it at 100% speed or not the cpu is also meant to have fluctuating voltage within certain limits.. cpu degradation occurs if the voltage exceeds those limits which is what can happen for people who raise voltage quite a bit for a very high oc OR very high temperatures but the cpu will throttle itself at high temps

all your doing is creating more heat as it will go to 100% only when it needs it so the balanced 5-100% is ideal

thank you I appriciate that Input I am glad I set it to that. I kept everything high performance especially the pci express port power thing. I think that is important for some bigger gpus but idk. either way ty.

Originally posted by Kaihekoa:

I run the balanced power profile and enable the power saving BIOS options on my overclocked system and don't have any performance or stability issues. If I benchmark, I turn them off; otherwise, I don't notice a difference. If you pay your own power bill, it does measurably lower energy consumption.

I kept seeing that it was negligable but then others saying its not so idk. if it does cost more ill see if not then idk.

Originally posted by Revelene:

Originally posted by Kaihekoa:

I run the balanced power profile and enable the power saving BIOS options on my overclocked system and don't have any performance or stability issues. If I benchmark, I turn them off; otherwise, I don't notice a difference. If you pay your own power bill, it does measurably lower energy consumption.

Sometimes it can cause issues, sometimes not.

More times than not, it can cause hang ups when Windows doesn't communicate properly and ramp up when needed. This is why I prefer motherboard power saving features, over Windows power saving features, if I do use them at all. Typically, I don't.

As someone that pays their own power bill, and has too many computers for their own good, I know the feels when you get a high electricity bill... but one PC wouldn't see that much of a difference between balanced or high performance on a power bill.

good point right now the desk is holding one new desktop. After cleaning my other 1060 rig ill get a bigger desk to hold both rigs maybe then this power issue will start to come into play.

Oh also I have a ssd with my os and a 2 tb hdd. under the power settings it had the hdd to turn off after 20 mins of idle? i turned that to never because That is where I install alot of programs like games and such. is that what it was supposed to be set at ?

[Revelene]

Originally posted by W1LLTACULAR:

Originally posted by Revelene:

Sometimes it can cause issues, sometimes not.

More times than not, it can cause hang ups when Windows doesn't communicate properly and ramp up when needed. This is why I prefer motherboard power saving features, over Windows power saving features, if I do use them at all. Typically, I don't.

As someone that pays their own power bill, and has too many computers for their own good, I know the feels when you get a high electricity bill... but one PC wouldn't see that much of a difference between balanced or high performance on a power bill.

good point right now the desk is holding one new desktop. After cleaning my other 1060 rig ill get a bigger desk to hold both rigs maybe then this power issue will start to come into play.

Maybe, but probably not.

The only systems I don't run with all the power saving features off are my servers. Since they run 24/7, they definitely benefit from some power saving.