SSD problem!! low write speed 80MB/s and high Avg response time on 100% active

[DANGEROUS DS]

Hi,

I ran into a problem that my SSD getting laggy and slow and crashing when installing or update any game on steam or anything else other than steam that uses write speed from sold hard drive or hard disk, my reading speed of my ssd is okay (at 500MB/s) but I have a write speed of (10MB/s to 80MB/s) which is not normal and my SSD should be running at higher writing speed, my SSD the WD GREEN 1TB, even my old HDD has a faster writing speed but not reading for sure, so that shows that I have problem with the SSD writing speed, so please help, I have tried most of the stuff that might help but I gave him, so I think you guys can help me, please I need solutions

[Talby]

I think once you get the nvme drive in and set page file setup there, that should suffice to resolve the majority of your problems - using the WD green as a storage drive with all defaults should suffice

[DANGEROUS DS]

Messaggio originale di Talby:

I think once you get the nvme drive in and set page file setup there, that should suffice to resolve the majority of your problems - using the WD green as a storage drive with all defaults should suffice

ohh I see know what you saying and understanded now, okay thank you man and I will buy the NVMe as soon as I have the money, but should I get the Samsung 970 EVO SSD 500GB? cuz its little more faster and only $10 to $20 difference so not that much

and will it work on my motherboard? I have a asrock z390 phantom gaming 4-IB

[Talby]

Yes that is all good, your board has the typical M2 slot and the 970 Evo is still a good pick - no worries!

[DANGEROUS DS]

Messaggio originale di Talby:

Yes that is all good, your board has the typical M2 slot and the 970 Evo is still a good pick - no worries!

Thank you!

[UserNotFound]

I have a 256GB NVMe M.2 drive for my OS, and my games are stored in separate SATA SSD:
4TB Samsung 860 EVO, 2TB Samsung 860 QVO and 2x 1TB Samsung 850 EVO. No slowdown whatsoever with any of my drives, to be sure, none of them are anywhere near capacity, I'm aware enough to keep about 15% - 20% free and none of my drives are even clost to this limit I'd set.

Nothing wrong with storing games in SATA SSDs since level load time vs NVMe M.2 Gen 3 is that significant. Besides, I have 3x NVMe M.2 G4 slots, and if I use all of them, I'd be able to use 4x SATA slots since two would be disabled should I use the 3rd NVMe M.2 slot. I would probably get a 2TB (or higher) NVMe M.2 to fill my 2nd NVMe M.2 slot and would be for games only.

The reason for NOT using the 3rd NVMe M.2 slot is so I can still use my 2x SATA slots to run 2x HDD (6TB WD Black for games, 2TB Seagate HDD for music, downloads and such).

BTW, just ran Crystalmark on my Kingston A400 which is housed in a 3rd party external housing using USB3.0 to my computer, scored 430/450 in read and write tests. I think there's something wrong with the OP's score, and I don't think all the fault lies with his WD Green SSD, my 2TB Samsung 860 QVO doesn't do too badly in Crystalmark, certainly not that bad as the OP's which is why I think the fault lies elsewhere......unless the controller on that WD Green SSD is truly teh suck!

[DANGEROUS DS]

Messaggio originale di mikey:

I have a 256GB NVMe M.2 drive for my OS, and my games are stored in separate SATA SSD:
4TB Samsung 860 EVO, 2TB Samsung 860 QVO and 2x 1TB Samsung 850 EVO. No slowdown whatsoever with any of my drives, to be sure, none of them are anywhere near capacity, I'm aware enough to keep about 15% - 20% free and none of my drives are even clost to this limit I'd set.

Nothing wrong with storing games in SATA SSDs since level load time vs NVMe M.2 Gen 3 is that significant. Besides, I have 3x NVMe M.2 G4 slots, and if I use all of them, I'd be able to use 4x SATA slots since two would be disabled should I use the 3rd NVMe M.2 slot. I would probably get a 2TB (or higher) NVMe M.2 to fill my 2nd NVMe M.2 slot and would be for games only.

The reason for NOT using the 3rd NVMe M.2 slot is so I can still use my 2x SATA slots to run 2x HDD (6TB WD Black for games, 2TB Seagate HDD for music, downloads and such).

BTW, just ran Crystalmark on my Kingston A400 which is housed in a 3rd party external housing using USB3.0 to my computer, scored 430/450 in read and write tests. I think there's something wrong with the OP's score, and I don't think all the fault lies with his WD Green SSD, my 2TB Samsung 860 QVO doesn't do too badly in Crystalmark, certainly not that bad as the OP's which is why I think the fault lies elsewhere......unless the controller on that WD Green SSD is truly teh suck!

yeah you right, the WD green is really bad and not good for long term

[Illusion of Progress]

Messaggio originale di mikey:

BTW, just ran Crystalmark on my Kingston A400 which is housed in a 3rd party external housing using USB3.0 to my computer, scored 430/450 in read and write tests. I think there's something wrong with the OP's score, and I don't think all the fault lies with his WD Green SSD, my 2TB Samsung 860 QVO doesn't do too badly in Crystalmark, certainly not that bad as the OP's which is why I think the fault lies elsewhere......unless the controller on that WD Green SSD is truly teh suck!

The Green series traditionally isn't a performance line (specifically they are the exact opposite), and if it's QLC, they are known to have this issue with low sustained write speeds.

I get something like 550 MB/s read to 560 MB/s write I think on my Blue SSD drive which is around where SATA SSDs top out.

[DANGEROUS DS]

Messaggio originale di Illusion of Progress:

Messaggio originale di mikey:

BTW, just ran Crystalmark on my Kingston A400 which is housed in a 3rd party external housing using USB3.0 to my computer, scored 430/450 in read and write tests. I think there's something wrong with the OP's score, and I don't think all the fault lies with his WD Green SSD, my 2TB Samsung 860 QVO doesn't do too badly in Crystalmark, certainly not that bad as the OP's which is why I think the fault lies elsewhere......unless the controller on that WD Green SSD is truly teh suck!

The Green series traditionally isn't a performance line (specifically they are the exact opposite), and if it's QLC, they are known to have this issue with low sustained write speeds.

I get something like 550 MB/s read to 560 MB/s write I think on my Blue SSD drive which is around where SATA SSDs top out.

will the problem or issue be fixed if I got a NVMe and moved the OS to the NVMe and make the WD ssd only for the D drive? Will it get back to its normal speed

[Tristan]

Messaggio originale di DANGEROUS DS:

Messaggio originale di Talby:

I think once you get the nvme drive in and set page file setup there, that should suffice to resolve the majority of your problems - using the WD green as a storage drive with all defaults should suffice

ohh I see know what you saying and understanded now, okay thank you man and I will buy the NVMe as soon as I have the money, but should I get the Samsung 970 EVO SSD 500GB? cuz its little more faster and only $10 to $20 difference so not that much

and will it work on my motherboard? I have a asrock z390 phantom gaming 4-IB

IS THIS UR MOTHERBOARD ?

VERY VERY NICE I GOT THE Z490 :)

LOOK AT MY PICTURE U HAVE THEM AND U HAVE THE 4RTH GEN
WITCH IS THE BEST

U R GOOD TO ROCK AND ROLL

https://imgur.com/XMqQ2cg

[Illusion of Progress]

Messaggio originale di DANGEROUS DS:

Messaggio originale di Illusion of Progress:

will the problem or issue be fixed if I got a NVMe and moved the OS to the NVMe and make the WD ssd only for the D drive? Will it get back to its normal speed

The drive will probably keep performing as it is, although if it's nearly full and has a lot of data removed in this process, performance may go up a bit. HDDs typically start on the edge of the platter and work inwards, and perform better on the edge, so they tend to perform better the less full they are (like SSDs). However, your OS will be on the new drive so your new drive won't perform that way.

[DANGEROUS DS]

Messaggio originale di Illusion of Progress:

Messaggio originale di DANGEROUS DS:

The drive will probably keep performing as it is, although if it's nearly full and has a lot of data removed in this process, performance may go up a bit. HDDs typically start on the edge of the platter and work inwards, and perform better on the edge, so they tend to perform better the less full they are (like SSDs). However, your OS will be on the new drive so your new drive won't perform that way.

Okay thank you!

[DANGEROUS DS]

Messaggio originale di Capri-Sun:

Messaggio originale di DANGEROUS DS:

ohh I see know what you saying and understanded now, okay thank you man and I will buy the NVMe as soon as I have the money, but should I get the Samsung 970 EVO SSD 500GB? cuz its little more faster and only $10 to $20 difference so not that much

and will it work on my motherboard? I have a asrock z390 phantom gaming 4-IB

IS THIS UR MOTHERBOARD ?

VERY VERY NICE I GOT THE Z490 :)

LOOK AT MY PICTURE U HAVE THEM AND U HAVE THE 4RTH GEN
WITCH IS THE BEST

U R GOOD TO ROCK AND ROLL

https://imgur.com/XMqQ2cg

yeah I know xd thanks for your time guys

[Autumn_]

Messaggio originale di Capri-Sun:

WHY ARE PEPOLE STILL BUYING SSD WHEN U GET 10 000 MORE BETTER performance WITH MV2 ?

I DONT GET IT ? IS IT BECAUSE THEY ARE SO CHEAP NOW ?

BUY THIS U WILL BE SO HAPPY


https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/1000GB-Samsung-970-Evo-Plus-M-2-2280-PCIe-3-0-x4-NVMe-1-3-3D-NAND-TLC--_1292800.html

Okay, where to start....

M.2 is a form factor, not a performance standard.
You have several devices that use M.2 form factor, from SSDs (SATA3, PCI-e 2.0x2-4.0x4 NVMe) to wifi cards to adaptors for other things, like SATA port, a x1-x4 PCI-e lane, for another GPU or PCI card, to other strange devices.

You won't be getting a '10,000x' increase, you won't even be getting a 10x increase.
NVMe drives rated speeds are only for squential read/write performance, so copying one file, to a drive of the same speed, or some form of video editing or picture editing where you work with ONE file. Games use random read writes, and even the best PCI-e 4.0 drive isn't really all that much better than a normal SATA drive.
The difference in practical terms is a couple (two) seconds at most, from a midrange SATA SSD to a PCI-e 4.0 NVMe drive.

The 970 Evo is a good drive, but it's overpriced for what it is,you can get an Intel 660p that's just as fast and cheaper.

I do agree with your statement though, no reason not to buy one.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Make a fresh Win10 64bit 2004 usb flash drive, wipe the C drive clean and boot from usb and perform clean OS install.

[Tristan]

Messaggio originale di Autumn_:

Messaggio originale di Capri-Sun:

WHY ARE PEPOLE STILL BUYING SSD WHEN U GET 10 000 MORE BETTER performance WITH MV2 ?

I DONT GET IT ? IS IT BECAUSE THEY ARE SO CHEAP NOW ?

BUY THIS U WILL BE SO HAPPY


https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/1000GB-Samsung-970-Evo-Plus-M-2-2280-PCIe-3-0-x4-NVMe-1-3-3D-NAND-TLC--_1292800.html

Okay, where to start....

M.2 is a form factor, not a performance standard.
You have several devices that use M.2 form factor, from SSDs (SATA3, PCI-e 2.0x2-4.0x4 NVMe) to wifi cards to adaptors for other things, like SATA port, a x1-x4 PCI-e lane, for another GPU or PCI card, to other strange devices.

You won't be getting a '10,000x' increase, you won't even be getting a 10x increase.
NVMe drives rated speeds are only for squential read/write performance, so copying one file, to a drive of the same speed, or some form of video editing or picture editing where you work with ONE file. Games use random read writes, and even the best PCI-e 4.0 drive isn't really all that much better than a normal SATA drive.
The difference in practical terms is a couple (two) seconds at most, from a midrange SATA SSD to a PCI-e 4.0 NVMe drive.

The 970 Evo is a good drive, but it's overpriced for what it is,you can get an Intel 660p that's just as fast and cheaper.

I do agree with your statement though, no reason not to buy one.