Best low profile AGP video card

[prospex]

I have an old Compaq EVO and is like to upgrade the video card in it, it currently has a TNT2 which is good for most old games but other games (such as SM64) run like hot garbage on it, I’ve already upgraded the processor to a P4 3.0GHz, upgrades the RAM to 1GB dual channel (this is the max this machine can handle) and upgraded the sound card to a soundblaster Audigy LS, I’m mainly using this machine for N64 emulation and retro gaming and I know that there are some MX200’s for dirt cheap on the secondhand market but was just curious what the best LP AGP card would be, also it can’t need any sort of connectors as there isn’t any left to spare.

[Omega]

Emulation requires a machine 10-20x more powerful then the machine it's emulating.

This computer is so low on processing power it will likely never manage to emulate the N64 properly even when maxed out.

Buy a Raspberry Pi 4, overclock it a bit. Then run your N64 games on that.

[prospex]

Originally posted by Omega:

Emulation requires a machine 10-20x more powerful then the machine it's emulating.

This computer is so low on processing power it will likely never manage to emulate the N64 properly even when maxed out.

I’m currently running Mupen64 on a Dell XPS M140 and it runs quite smoothly I must say, and that one has a Pentium M 1.7GHz

[Washell]

From Wikipedia

By 2010, few new motherboards had AGP slots. No new motherboard chipsets were equipped with AGP support, but motherboards continued to be produced with older chipsets with support for AGP.

Graphics processors of this period use PCI-Express, a general-purpose (not restricted to graphics) standard that supports higher data transfer rates and full-duplex. To create AGP-compatible graphics cards, those chips require an additional PCIe-to-AGP bridge-chip to convert PCIe signals to and from AGP signals. This incurs additional board costs due to the need for the additional bridge chip and for a separate AGP-designed circuit board.

Various manufacturers of graphics cards continued to produce AGP cards for the shrinking AGP user-base. The first bridged cards were the GeForce 6600 and ATI Radeon X800 XL boards, released during 2004–5.[16][17] In 2009 AGP cards from Nvidia had a ceiling of the GeForce 7 Series. In 2011 DirectX 10-capable AGP cards from AMD vendors (Club 3D, HIS, Sapphire, Jaton, Visiontek, Diamond, etc.) included the Radeon HD 2400, 3450, 3650, 3850, 4350, 4650, and 4670. The HD 5000 AGP series mentioned in the AMD Catalyst software was never available. There were many problems with the AMD Catalyst 11.2 - 11.6 AGP hotfix drivers under Windows 7 with the HD 4000 series AGP video cards;[18] use of 10.12 or 11.1 AGP hotfix drivers is the recommended[by whom?] workaround. Several of the vendors listed above make available past versions of the AGP drivers.

You could look into a AGP riser cable or card to get around the low profile requirement.

[prospex]

Originally posted by Washell:

From Wikipedia

By 2010, few new motherboards had AGP slots. No new motherboard chipsets were equipped with AGP support, but motherboards continued to be produced with older chipsets with support for AGP.

Graphics processors of this period use PCI-Express, a general-purpose (not restricted to graphics) standard that supports higher data transfer rates and full-duplex. To create AGP-compatible graphics cards, those chips require an additional PCIe-to-AGP bridge-chip to convert PCIe signals to and from AGP signals. This incurs additional board costs due to the need for the additional bridge chip and for a separate AGP-designed circuit board.

Various manufacturers of graphics cards continued to produce AGP cards for the shrinking AGP user-base. The first bridged cards were the GeForce 6600 and ATI Radeon X800 XL boards, released during 2004–5.[16][17] In 2009 AGP cards from Nvidia had a ceiling of the GeForce 7 Series. In 2011 DirectX 10-capable AGP cards from AMD vendors (Club 3D, HIS, Sapphire, Jaton, Visiontek, Diamond, etc.) included the Radeon HD 2400, 3450, 3650, 3850, 4350, 4650, and 4670. The HD 5000 AGP series mentioned in the AMD Catalyst software was never available. There were many problems with the AMD Catalyst 11.2 - 11.6 AGP hotfix drivers under Windows 7 with the HD 4000 series AGP video cards;[18] use of 10.12 or 11.1 AGP hotfix drivers is the recommended[by whom?] workaround. Several of the vendors listed above make available past versions of the AGP drivers.

You could look into a AGP riser cable or card to get around the low profile requirement.

That’s also true, I have this old GeForce 7600 that should work.

[Mad Scientist]

Definitely a RaspberryPi, AGP cards have been dead for a long time; you'd have no idea knowing if any 3rd party thing will work or not, and you might pay a heavy price for it compared to a RaspberryPi.

It's just wiser to do the more realistic route, where the chances of you getting ripped off or over-paying are nearly 0. They might sell an AGP for next to nothing but even an entry level would be cheaper than AGP+Shipping.

[prospex]

Originally posted by Orion:

Definitely a RaspberryPi, AGP cards have been dead for a long time; you'd have no idea knowing if any 3rd party thing will work or not, and you might pay a heavy price for it compared to a RaspberryPi.

It's just wiser to do the more realistic route, where the chances of you getting ripped off or over-paying are nearly 0. They might sell an AGP for next to nothing but even an entry level would be cheaper than AGP+Shipping.

I’ve been digging through some boxes and found this SiS 315e that’s better than what I have in it right now so I’ll use that, thanks for the recommendation though.

[Mr Blonde]

TNT2? Now that’s a blast from the past. Iv still got a voodoo 3 knocking about somewhere

[_I_]

iirc the 7600 gs or 8400 gs were of the best low profile agp gpus

tnt2 was a 3dfx card, nothing modern supports glide, and it was easily emulated to dx/ogl

[Cathulhu]

TNT2 was the predecessor of Geforce and made by nVida, not 3DFX with their Voodoo cards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIVA_TNT2
Also, it was a Direct3D card, not Glide.

[_I_]

ok, i was thinking the rush/banshee
still a very old gpu for win9x games