Will an I9 9900k bottleneck a 3080 TI / 3090 or Big Navi ?

[danygia]

Hi,

I have a Z390 master with an I9 9900k and i want to upgrade my GPU to a 3080 TI or Big Navi. I know these GPUs will be PCI 4.0 and i worried about my 9900k and actual Z390 mobo will bottleneck new gen cards.

https://i.imgur.com/8nDA1OF.jpg

[r.linder]

There's always a bottleneck, no matter what. It's unavoidable, but people often takes bottlenecks more seriously than they actually are; yes, a 3600 will bottleneck a 2080 Ti, but it won't have problems running 144 FPS at 1440p in the majority of games so long as the 2080 Ti can actually run at that rate.

The 9900K is barely different from the 10900K in gaming performance, the only real difference is the fact that the 10900K is pushed to the limit out of the box for the sake of TVB, and it has 2 more cores and 4 more threads. In fact, the 9900KS can easily beat a stock 10900K in a lot of games because it's 5 GHz all-core, so an overclocked 9900K can do the same.

[danygia]

Messaggio originale di Escorve:

There's always a bottleneck, no matter what. It's unavoidable, but people often takes bottlenecks more seriously than they actually are; yes, a 3600 will bottleneck a 2080 Ti, but it won't have problems running 144 FPS at 1440p in the majority of games so long as the 2080 Ti can actually run at that rate.

The 9900K is barely different from the 10900K in gaming performance, the only real difference is the fact that the 10900K is pushed to the limit out of the box for the sake of TVB, and it has 2 more cores and 4 more threads. In fact, the 9900KS can easily beat a stock 10900K in a lot of games because it's 5 GHz all-core, so an overclocked 9900K can do the same.

In the picture 2080 TI on 3300 and 1700 get the very same FPS of 2070 Super.

[r.linder]

Messaggio originale di meh:

Messaggio originale di danygia:

Hi,

I have a Z390 master with an I9 9900k and i want to upgrade my GPU to a 3080 TI or Big Navi. I know these GPUs will be PCI 4.0 and i worried about my 9900k and actual Z390 mobo will bottleneck new gen cards.

https://i.imgur.com/8nDA1OF.jpg

I wouldn't concern yourself. PCI-E 3.0 should be fine and will deliver the bandwidth. Your CPU is one of the best consumer gaming chips and should keep you happy for several more years.

This.
PCI-e 4.0 is just a marketing gimmick and is currently only somewhat useful for the Gen4 SSDs, provided the user can actually make use of said speeds through demanding programs writing information on the drive.

There is currently no GPU that is being held back by PCI-e 3.0 x16, in fact, the majority of video cards won't even be held back by x8 bandwidth, so we're a long ways off from needing PCI-e 4.0 for video cards.

[nMate]

very rich:(

[danygia]

So bottleneck assured with 9900k and 3080 TI / 3090 in 1440p.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IistubvBOT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=807ESNN4Atg

[SHREDDER]

I just god a high end SSD 1 week ago a MP 600 2TB finaly and now my next target for upgrade is the graphics card. I have GTX 970 since 2014 and cpu is ryzen 7 1700. I will get RTX 3080TI too but i wont care if it is botleneck for as long as games will run at 1440p ultra/max settings 60 fps.

[danygia]

Messaggio originale di SHREDDER:

I just god a high end SSD 1 week ago a MP 600 2TB finaly and now my next target for upgrade is the graphics card. I have GTX 970 since 2014 and cpu is ryzen 7 1700. I will get RTX 3080TI too but i wont care if it is botleneck for as long as games will run at 1440p ultra/max settings 60 fps.

It's PCI 4.0, are you planning to change also your mobo ?

[_I_]

pci-e 4.0 is only really needed for sil/cfx or when the cpu is limited on pci lanes to other devices

[danygia]

Messaggio originale di _I_:

pci-e 4.0 is only really needed for sil/cfx or when the cpu is limited on pci lanes to other devices

PCI 4.0 SSD will run slowly as like a Samsung 970 Pro on a PCI 3.0. I think also PCI 4.0 GPUs will not run at full speed.

[_I_]

the ssds use 1 pci lane not 16
set your bios pci-e to 2.0 to your current gpu to see if its holding it back at all

[r.linder]

Messaggio originale di danygia:

Messaggio originale di _I_:

pci-e 4.0 is only really needed for sil/cfx or when the cpu is limited on pci lanes to other devices

PCI 4.0 SSD will run slowly as like a Samsung 970 Pro on a PCI 3.0. I think also PCI 4.0 GPUs will not run at full speed.

No, that's incorrect. Current GPUs can't even max out PCI-e 3.0 x16, in fact most of them will run the same on x8 bandwidth.

[Autumn_]

Messaggio originale di _I_:

the ssds use 1 pci lane not 16
set your bios pci-e to 2.0 to your current gpu to see if its holding it back at all

They use x2 or x4, not 1. And you can have it directly connected to the CPU or through the chipset.

Messaggio originale di danygia:

Messaggio originale di _I_:

pci-e 4.0 is only really needed for sil/cfx or when the cpu is limited on pci lanes to other devices

PCI 4.0 SSD will run slowly as like a Samsung 970 Pro on a PCI 3.0. I think also PCI 4.0 GPUs will not run at full speed.

They will, because current (high end) GPUs barely use more than x16 PCI-e 2.0 or x8 PCI-e 3.0 lanes.

Messaggio originale di danygia:

Messaggio originale di SHREDDER:

I just god a high end SSD 1 week ago a MP 600 2TB finaly and now my next target for upgrade is the graphics card. I have GTX 970 since 2014 and cpu is ryzen 7 1700. I will get RTX 3080TI too but i wont care if it is botleneck for as long as games will run at 1440p ultra/max settings 60 fps.

It's PCI 4.0, are you planning to change also your mobo ?

Shredder only cares about his 1080ti, sorry, I mean 2080ti, no wait, I mean the 3080ti, wait, or was it the 4080ti, i don't remember, he makes a thread every month about it.

[SHREDDER]

Messaggio originale di danygia:

Messaggio originale di SHREDDER:

I just god a high end SSD 1 week ago a MP 600 2TB finaly and now my next target for upgrade is the graphics card. I have GTX 970 since 2014 and cpu is ryzen 7 1700. I will get RTX 3080TI too but i wont care if it is botleneck for as long as games will run at 1440p ultra/max settings 60 fps.

It's PCI 4.0, are you planning to change also your mobo ?

Νοt now but next i will change graphics card. I was planning to get SSD and graphics card at the same time but because it takes too long for new graphics card to be released i decided to get SSD first.

[SHREDDER]

Messaggio originale di Autumn_:

Messaggio originale di _I_:

the ssds use 1 pci lane not 16
set your bios pci-e to 2.0 to your current gpu to see if its holding it back at all

They use x2 or x4, not 1. And you can have it directly connected to the CPU or through the chipset.

Messaggio originale di danygia:

PCI 4.0 SSD will run slowly as like a Samsung 970 Pro on a PCI 3.0. I think also PCI 4.0 GPUs will not run at full speed.

They will, because current (high end) GPUs barely use more than x16 PCI-e 2.0 or x8 PCI-e 3.0 lanes.

Messaggio originale di danygia:

It's PCI 4.0, are you planning to change also your mobo ?

Shredder only cares about his 1080ti, sorry, I mean 2080ti, no wait, I mean the 3080ti, wait, or was it the 4080ti, i don't remember, he makes a thread every month about it.

i havent made any thread sicne 2019. Anyway i just i did a good upgrade by getting this hgih end SSD MP 600 2 TB. 3080TI when it releass in few days

[AdahnGorion]

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There will be no 3080TI

There will be a 2190

Mark my words... this will happen.