Elthrael 29/jul./2020 às 3:24
Relidding adhesive woes
I have a der8auer delid/relid kit waiting for me at home along with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut liquid metal, some clear nail polish and some masking tape in prep for delidding my 8700k.

I couldn't find the Loctite Super Control gel that RockitCool recommend and it seemed wasteful to buy a giant tube of black silicone just for a few dabs on the corner of the IHS, especially since you can't effectively reseal it.

So I bought UHU Strong&Safe All-Purpose adhesive because it states it can handle temps up to 100°C.
https://www.amazon.com/PURPOSE-ADHESIVE-SUPER-Strong-Safe/dp/B004QMADSW

Now I've read a million opinions on superglue and relidding, some say it's okay, others saying it's hard to delid again to replace the LM in a few years, still others say acetone usually does the trick, some even claim superglue is corrosive (??). So can I use this glue or what?
Última edição por Elthrael; 29/jul./2020 às 3:26
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Supafly 29/jul./2020 às 4:06 
I really wouldn't use glue. It'll be a pain to delid in the future and a nightmare to clean before relidding again.

Any high heat resistant silicon sealant should be fine. Something like
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ID8IUJY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1&pldnSite=1
Autumn_ 29/jul./2020 às 4:41 
I second not using glue.
If you're lucky, It'll only be a ♥♥♥♥♥ to remove, if not, you could end up destroying the interposer.

You could just use no sealant, and use hust socket/mount pressure to hold it into place. I've seen that work quite well.

You could just get something like Monkey recommended.
Elthrael 29/jul./2020 às 8:04 
After more tiresome googling, I think I finally found something like what you recommended (that is actually in stock in my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ country):

https://euro-industry.com/main.php?index=details&cat=1430&prod=23203304

Is this it?

Escrito originalmente por Autumn_:
You could just use no sealant, and use hust socket/mount pressure to hold it into place. I've seen that work quite well.

I have considered it but since I do occasionally (i.e. every few months) transport my PC to a different house I'd rather be sure the darn thing stays put.
Bad 💀 Motha 30/jul./2020 às 0:34 
Escrito originalmente por Elthrael:
After more tiresome googling, I think I finally found something like what you recommended (that is actually in stock in my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ country):

https://euro-industry.com/main.php?index=details&cat=1430&prod=23203304

Is this it?

Escrito originalmente por Autumn_:
You could just use no sealant, and use hust socket/mount pressure to hold it into place. I've seen that work quite well.

I have considered it but since I do occasionally (i.e. every few months) transport my PC to a different house I'd rather be sure the darn thing stays put.

High temperature silicon sealant would be way better then any glue. Get the kind that is made for well ABOVE 100*C area
Última edição por Bad 💀 Motha; 30/jul./2020 às 0:35
Elthrael 30/jul./2020 às 5:26 
Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

High temperature silicon sealant would be way better then any glue. Get the kind that is made for well ABOVE 100*C area

Yep, I got this, Loctite 5910 black gasket maker/silicone sealant. Up to 200°C.

https://euro-industry.com/main.php?index=details&cat=1430&prod=23203304
Supafly 30/jul./2020 às 5:49 
Read others using Silicone gasket sealant before so that should work. I'd just test it on something else first as some can be awkward to apply.
Elthrael 30/jul./2020 às 6:07 
Escrito originalmente por Suicidal Monkey:
Read others using Silicone gasket sealant before so that should work. I'd just test it on something else first as some can be awkward to apply.

I have a really old Core 2 Duo I intend to rehearse the process on, so I'm good to go. Will report on the temp gains when I'm done! :)
Supafly 30/jul./2020 às 6:14 
Escrito originalmente por Elthrael:
Escrito originalmente por Suicidal Monkey:
Read others using Silicone gasket sealant before so that should work. I'd just test it on something else first as some can be awkward to apply.

I have a really old Core 2 Duo I intend to rehearse the process on, so I'm good to go. Will report on the temp gains when I'm done! :)

Didn't actually mean another CPU. Meant practice applying it in general. Plastic lid, bit of wood or anything else wood have done but another old CPU would work too :steamhappy:
DarthSidious666 30/jul./2020 às 7:07 
Probably best to practice on a donor CPU rather than messing it up on one you would actually use.
Elthrael 30/jul./2020 às 12:35 
Escrito originalmente por DarthSidious666:
Probably best to practice on a donor CPU rather than messing it up on one you would actually use.

Nah, it's an entry level CPU from 2008 or something, my grandpa's Athlon 200GE build is more likely to get an upgrade than me ever using that CPU again :lunar2019grinningpig:
Autumn_ 30/jul./2020 às 12:46 
Core 2 Duos were soldered. So chances are deliding it will kill it instantly.
You would have to heat it enough to soften the solder then quickly delid it, if you wanted any chance of it surviving.

That said it should be decent practice.
Elthrael 30/jul./2020 às 12:49 
Escrito originalmente por Autumn_:
Core 2 Duos were soldered. So chances are deliding it will kill it instantly.
You would have to heat it enough to soften the solder then quickly delid it, if you wanted any chance of it surviving.

That said it should be decent practice.

Oooooooooooh. Nevermind then. I forget that Intel weren't always tight-fisted scumbags :lunar2019laughingpig:
Bad 💀 Motha 5/ago./2020 às 19:23 
Escrito originalmente por Autumn_:
Core 2 Duos were soldered. So chances are deliding it will kill it instantly.
You would have to heat it enough to soften the solder then quickly delid it, if you wanted any chance of it surviving.

That said it should be decent practice.
Not true, you can use a heat gun to loosen the solder that's under the lid without hurting the cpu cores.
Autumn_ 5/ago./2020 às 20:24 
Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:
Escrito originalmente por Autumn_:
Core 2 Duos were soldered. So chances are deliding it will kill it instantly.
You would have to heat it enough to soften the solder then quickly delid it, if you wanted any chance of it surviving.

That said it should be decent practice.
Not true, you can use a heat gun to loosen the solder that's under the lid without hurting the cpu cores.
I'm sorry, but what do you mean 'not true.'
You just repeated what I said in the second sentence...
Raoul 6/ago./2020 às 9:46 
Take a look at b7000 it's not expensive and perfect for the job especially if you plan to remove the IHS again in the future. I'd be careful with any super glue and definitely test it to get an idea of how much to use.
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