liquid cooling vrs air on i3-10100?

[JC]

I'm gonna grab this chip, it's 4 cores and turbo's up to 4.3 which should be nice. But i'm wondering if i should skip the water cooling at this time. Most i looked at are in the 150 dollar range and at this time i'm not really sure if i need it for this chip. It's runs on 65W, so i'm guessing even using the turbo function air-cooled should be enough. I'm not gonna clock it.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i3-10100-core-i3-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118138?&quicklink=true#


I have the case a Focus G, which is really nice, but seeing i use a DVR too it doesn't have the full front area for those triple 120 fans, so if i did go water cooled id go with a dual 120 instead


My thinking is to save money now,, as according to asus, the board should take the new i-11 chips when they come out, So bump up the chip, add another 32 gigs of ram and toss in a nice raytracing card as a solid planned upgrade. (system will be i3-10100, 32 gg, 1060 6gb)

I have not used watercooling yet, as my current comp is a i5-3350, but i hear some of the newer chips can run hot, but this one doesn't scream out highperformance like the 10900's which use 125watts, but none-the-less should be a nice upgrade over my current rig.


there are not a lot of options for the socket 1200 aftermarket aircooling atm as the chips are brandnew, watercooling does have more options. Maybe more will be around soonish, i really don't know.

[r.linder]

Wait for Ryzen 4000 before you decide to upgrade, because Ryzen 4000 could probably beat Intel's 10th generation for the most part, if not entirely.
Intel's IPC is largely unchanged since 6th gen, while AMD's IPC has been increasing by close to 10% if not more per generation, and they're currently on an even playing field with Intel and about to make another big leap in IPC, so Intel's high clock speeds won't save them for the lower and mid range chips. You could get a Ryzen 5 3600 for cheaper than it is right now, and that's a 6 core CPU that'll make you happier for longer, or you could get the 4600 when it releases later this year and have an even better 6 core CPU.

What's more is you'd have to buy a cheap garbage Intel motherboard to not spend more than what it would cost to get a decent B450 or B550 motherboard for Ryzen 4000, both of which are better chipsets than the locked chipsets that Intel uses as an excuse for budget users. (No, seriously, Intel's B and H series chipsets are crap)

To answer your question though, no. It would be a waste to get a good liquid cooler for an i3 of any caliber, because 4 cores and 8 threads really aren't going to generate as much heat as the 10 core 20 thread i9, and you can't even overclock an i3-10100 anyway, so you only need a half decent air cooler like the CM Hyper 212 EVO or Cryorig H7.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I would just wait and go with Ryzen 4xxx series CPU.

If you must buy now then go with maybe a Ryzen 3600 or better, B550 Motherboard and 2x 8gb or 2x 16gb ram, 3200

In any case, should you want an AIO-LC then an EVGA CLC 280mm 113 cfm AIO liquid cooler (for around $115) would be plenty unless going with Intel 10th gen i7/i9 or Ryzen-9 class of CPU. Just be sure to buy a decent Case that would allow for 280mm AIO otherwise look at a decent air cooler. Hyper212 EVO is fine for cpus such as i3 or Ryzen up to 3700X. For a higher end cpu, BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4

I would avoid Intel 10th gen because even with a lower end i3 or i5 you pretty much need a Z490 board for them to perform at their peak.

[_I_]

the stock cooler for the locked cpu is more than enough

get a better cpu anyway

[pasa]

Who even suggested water cooling a 65W locked cpu? Not counting the noise you're fine even with the stock cooler. The can be handled with a random $10 fan, let alone a baseline 212. Use the money for things that count.

[JC]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

I would avoid Intel 10th gen because even with a lower end i3 or i5 you pretty much need a Z490 board for them to perform at their peak.

I checked out this from tom's hardware, it had a compared the chipsets, It seams like the 490 is mainly for dual vid cards and overclocking, unless i'm missing something. (it did mention that they had better USB ports, but seeing i don't use those outside of removable storage on occasion i'm not sure that matters.

Is there another reason that the 490 is better than the 460? I also did notice that it will be PCI-E 4.0 as well, but seeing that is not even a thing that is used yet. No clue when that will become an issue.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asrocks-intel-h470-b460-h410-motherboard-10th-gen-comet-lake-cpus


Sounds like the 460+i3 should be a nice budget combo for me. (These are not the boards i was looking into, just what the article stated.) But feel free to add more info.. More info is always good. :)

[KeplersConjecture]

Originally posted by pasa:

Who even suggested water cooling a 65W locked cpu? Not counting the noise you're fine even with the stock cooler. The can be handled with a random $10 fan, let alone a baseline 212. Use the money for things that count.

Heck at 65W TDP you can just passively cool the thing.

[Magma Dragoon]

Get the 3300x instead

[_I_]

Originally posted by KeplersConjecture:

Originally posted by pasa:

Who even suggested water cooling a 65W locked cpu? Not counting the noise you're fine even with the stock cooler. The can be handled with a random $10 fan, let alone a baseline 212. Use the money for things that count.

Heck at 65W TDP you can just passively cool the thing.

212 with no fan would be fine
or tx3/t4 are around $15-25 and overkill for it

[JC]

ok, so sounds for sure like this chip would be fine air-cooled, that is good to know. Like i said, this chip is just going to be a place holder till i do an upgrade in a year or two.



So now you have me thinking, perhaps it would be better to spend a little more on the MB and go with the z490 chipset, verse the more budget minded 460H

[r.linder]

Originally posted by JC:

ok, so sounds for sure like this chip would be fine air-cooled, that is good to know. Like i said, this chip is just going to be a place holder till i do an upgrade in a year or two.



So now you have me thinking, perhaps it would be better to spend a little more on the MB and go with the z490 chipset, verse the more budget minded 460H

Or just wait for Ryzen 4000 and not waste money on Comet Lake or Rocket Lake. Intel is pretty much dying until they get a node and architecture change, it's all the same crap since skylake

[_I_]

if you dont have a board and you need a new build now, just get the ryzen 3600, or go for the 10xxxk with a good clc and a good z board

if you go the ryzen route, dont bother trying to oc yourself, just put a good cooler on it and let it boost to what it can