Serious FPS drops and stuttering on a HIGH end PC

[HarbingerOfDestruction「俺様」]

As title says, I have this new PC for a year now which cost me alot and I'm having major FPS drops in some games that drops even to 1 FPS, meaning a freeze basically.

My rig:
CPU: Intel I7-7700K
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1070
MotherBoard: GIGABYTE GA-Z270P-D3
Ram: 32 GB
HDD: 2TB (Not really sure which type of HDD)
SSD: 256 GB (Same as above)

All in all a monster..
However as I said, the PC is not performing upto specifications.
Games running in high FPS but suffering from stuttering and major FPS drops.
I should mention that all games on SSD works great, but HDD games (not all) have FPS stuttering.

I'm not really aware what is the problem and SSD costs alot.
I've heard that moving game's page files to SSD helps, is that true? Cause the games that are on SSD works smooth. How do you move game page files?

I have this issue for a long time and I would love to see it resolved, finally.

Thanks alot for the help!

Edit: I forgot to mention that I also use a G - Sync monitor. And no, it doesn't help alot with my stutterings.

Edit: I ended up going all out,
bought WD Black 4TB 7200RPM with 256GB Cache and Samsung 500GB 970 Evo.

Once again, thank you for all your help, and I will edit it this first post once again, once I install the drives and see that the problem is resolved for good.

Final edit (possibly): I'm glad to say it worked, replacing the old HDD and storing games on my new WD Black HDD works immensely, granted I still see some stuttering in some badly optimized games, but at least the "Sudden 1 FPS Spike of Doom" is thankfully gone.
And the SSD itself work flawlessly, even better than my old one.

I have had this problem for over a year, and I felt despair not knowing what was causing these issues. Thank you all for your help, I appreciate it alot.

[Guydodge]

https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/fix-hard-drives-chkdsk-windows-10/

[Omega]

HDD is dirt slow or dead.

By default the page file is made on the C: drive, so assuming ytou installed Windows on the SSD it's already there. The page file is only used when the PC unloads stuff it's currently not using from memory. During normal usage in a balanced system the page file is barely used. Your system would even run fine without a page file.

So no, messing around with the page file won't change anything.

Replace the HDD.

Originally posted by Guydodge:

https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/fix-hard-drives-chkdsk-windows-10/

chkdsk will only check for dead sectors on the disk. Dead sectors cause data corruption not performance issues.

[HarbingerOfDestruction「俺様」]

Originally posted by Omega:

HDD is dirt slow or dead.

By default the page file is made on the C: drive, so assuming ytou installed Windows on the SSD it's already there. The page file is only used when the PC unloads stuff it's currently not using from memory. During normal usage in a balanced system the page file is barely used. Your system would even run fine without a page file.

So no, messing around with the page file won't change anything.

Replace the HDD.

Originally posted by Guydodge:

https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/fix-hard-drives-chkdsk-windows-10/

chkdsk will only check for dead sectors on the disk. Dead sectors cause data corruption not performance issues.

Are you positive its the HDD's fault? it does make sense, but PC is a complex subject it could be many things. also I am running a tool from userbenchmark my friend suggested to check the source of the problem.

[Omega]

Originally posted by The Dragon Of Dojima:

Originally posted by Omega:

HDD is dirt slow or dead.

By default the page file is made on the C: drive, so assuming ytou installed Windows on the SSD it's already there. The page file is only used when the PC unloads stuff it's currently not using from memory. During normal usage in a balanced system the page file is barely used. Your system would even run fine without a page file.

So no, messing around with the page file won't change anything.

Replace the HDD.




chkdsk will only check for dead sectors on the disk. Dead sectors cause data corruption not performance issues.

Are you positive its the HDD's fault? it does make sense, but PC is a complex subject it could be many things. also I am running a tool from userbenchmark my friend suggested to check the source of the problem.

These HDD lags are a very common issue. It usually happens when the HDD is dying or when running disk heavy games from a slow drive.

And you said it yourself, stuff running off the HDD has this stutter issue and stuff on the other disk runs fine.

UserBenchmark won't do crap.. don't bother.

All you can do on the software side is check the HDD's smart status with software such as Crystal Disk Info. But even if it says the HDD is fine that means nothing.

[Snow]

Originally posted by Omega:

Originally posted by The Dragon Of Dojima:

Are you positive its the HDD's fault? it does make sense, but PC is a complex subject it could be many things. also I am running a tool from userbenchmark my friend suggested to check the source of the problem.

These HDD lags are a very common issue. It usually happens when the HDD is dying or when running disk heavy games from a slow drive.

And you said it yourself, stuff running off the HDD has this stutter issue and stuff on the other disk runs fine.

UserBenchmark won't do crap.. don't bother.

All you can do on the software side is check the HDD's smart status with software such as Crystal Disk Info.

Actually, CrystalDiskInfo doesn't always show there's any problem, so comparing HDD with a lot of other same model ones via userbenchmark or CrystalDiskMark is not a bad idea.
Also, OP, when did u defrag your HDD last time?

[Omega]

Originally posted by Snow:

Originally posted by Omega:

These HDD lags are a very common issue. It usually happens when the HDD is dying or when running disk heavy games from a slow drive.

And you said it yourself, stuff running off the HDD has this stutter issue and stuff on the other disk runs fine.

UserBenchmark won't do crap.. don't bother.

All you can do on the software side is check the HDD's smart status with software such as Crystal Disk Info.

Actually, CrystalDiskInfo doesn't always show there's any problem, so comparing HDD with a lot of other same model ones via userbenchmark or CrystalDiskMark is not a bad idea.
Also, OP, when did u defrag your HDD last time?

Which is why I edited my comment 1 second after posting it saying that Crystal Disk Info/SMART isn't perfect especially with these kind of issues.

Windows auto defrags all the time. We don't run Windows 95 anymore, you don't have to do this stuff manually anymore.

[HarbingerOfDestruction「俺様」]

Originally posted by Omega:

Originally posted by The Dragon Of Dojima:

Are you positive its the HDD's fault? it does make sense, but PC is a complex subject it could be many things. also I am running a tool from userbenchmark my friend suggested to check the source of the problem.

These HDD lags are a very common issue. It usually happens when the HDD is dying or when running disk heavy games from a slow drive.

And you said it yourself, stuff running off the HDD has this stutter issue and stuff on the other disk runs fine.

UserBenchmark won't do crap.. don't bother.

All you can do on the software side is check the HDD's smart status with software such as Crystal Disk Info. But even if it says the HDD is fine that means nothing.

Well userbencmark helped me identifie the problem.
As you've said it's likely to be the HDD, the other components are performing well.
So under a good HDD performing upto specifications as required won't cause stuttering?
My friend said he uses only SSD for games, but he has tons of it. I only have 256GB.

[Snow]

Originally posted by Omega:

Originally posted by Snow:

Actually, CrystalDiskInfo doesn't always show there's any problem, so comparing HDD with a lot of other same model ones via userbenchmark or CrystalDiskMark is not a bad idea.
Also, OP, when did u defrag your HDD last time?

Which is why I edited my comment 1 second after posting it saying that Crystal Disk Info/SMART isn't perfect especially with these kind of issues.

Windows auto defrags all the time. We don't run Windows 95 anymore, you don't have to do this stuff manually anymore.

Oh, well, I just was lucky enough to run into unedited one.
Now what comes to default defrag software - I don't trust it. It should do that on a schedule, yet whenever I check someone's PC - in most cases it's a mess. Not to mention it doesn't move folders next to MFT or doesn't move most used files to the faster tracks of an HDD.

Originally posted by The Dragon Of Dojima:

Originally posted by Omega:

These HDD lags are a very common issue. It usually happens when the HDD is dying or when running disk heavy games from a slow drive.

And you said it yourself, stuff running off the HDD has this stutter issue and stuff on the other disk runs fine.

UserBenchmark won't do crap.. don't bother.

All you can do on the software side is check the HDD's smart status with software such as Crystal Disk Info. But even if it says the HDD is fine that means nothing.

Well userbencmark helped me identifie the problem.
As you've said it's likely to be the HDD, the other components are performing well.
So under a good HDD performing upto specifications as required won't cause stuttering?
My friend said he uses only SSD for games, but he has tons of it. I only have 256GB.

Shouldn't cause any serious stuttering in most cases, yet might in some. Depends a lot on a particular game, how much it's got to stream during gameplay, how does it manage the thing etc.

[upcoast]

Just run something like HDTune on the HDD to see if it's working right.

I run all my games off HDDs no problem even RoTR that chews up 18GB of Page File, OS on SSD.

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

Failing hdd or sdd, believe it or not even an ssd can start to choke with read/write issues without tripping smart. Can usually see the issue in eventviewer

[HarbingerOfDestruction「俺様」]

Originally posted by Omega:

HDD is dirt slow or dead.

By default the page file is made on the C: drive, so assuming ytou installed Windows on the SSD it's already there. The page file is only used when the PC unloads stuff it's currently not using from memory. During normal usage in a balanced system the page file is barely used. Your system would even run fine without a page file.

So no, messing around with the page file won't change anything.

Replace the HDD.

Originally posted by Guydodge:

https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/fix-hard-drives-chkdsk-windows-10/

chkdsk will only check for dead sectors on the disk. Dead sectors cause data corruption not performance issues.

Originally posted by Snow:

Originally posted by The Dragon Of Dojima:

Well userbencmark helped me identifie the problem.
As you've said it's likely to be the HDD, the other components are performing well.
So under a good HDD performing upto specifications as required won't cause stuttering?
My friend said he uses only SSD for games, but he has tons of it. I only have 256GB.

Shouldn't cause any serious stuttering in most cases, yet might in some. Depends a lot on a particular game, how much it's got to stream during gameplay, how does it manage the thing etc.

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™:

Failing hdd or sdd, believe it or not even an ssd can start to choke with read/write issues without tripping smart. Can usually see the issue in eventviewer

So to sum things up; the problem is as you guys figured the HDD, I ran a scan and it's not performing as it should. 34% defective.

Would you guys recommend me on a good HDD type?
Is Seagate any good? My friend recommended me.
And once again thanks for all your help.

[Omega]

Originally posted by The Dragon Of Dojima:

Originally posted by Omega:

HDD is dirt slow or dead.

By default the page file is made on the C: drive, so assuming ytou installed Windows on the SSD it's already there. The page file is only used when the PC unloads stuff it's currently not using from memory. During normal usage in a balanced system the page file is barely used. Your system would even run fine without a page file.

So no, messing around with the page file won't change anything.

Replace the HDD.




chkdsk will only check for dead sectors on the disk. Dead sectors cause data corruption not performance issues.

Originally posted by Snow:

Shouldn't cause any serious stuttering in most cases, yet might in some. Depends a lot on a particular game, how much it's got to stream during gameplay, how does it manage the thing etc.

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™:

Failing hdd or sdd, believe it or not even an ssd can start to choke with read/write issues without tripping smart. Can usually see the issue in eventviewer

So to sum things up; the problem is as you guys figured the HDD, I ran a scan and it's not performing as it should. 34% defective.

Would you guys recommend me on a good HDD type?
Is Seagate any good? My friend recommended me.
And once again thanks for all your help.

If you want a new budget HDD get a WD Blue 7200rpm or Seagate Barracuda. When you want a performance drive get a WD Black, Gold or Seagate Firecuda.

[Snow]

Originally posted by The Dragon Of Dojima:

Originally posted by Omega:

HDD is dirt slow or dead.

By default the page file is made on the C: drive, so assuming ytou installed Windows on the SSD it's already there. The page file is only used when the PC unloads stuff it's currently not using from memory. During normal usage in a balanced system the page file is barely used. Your system would even run fine without a page file.

So no, messing around with the page file won't change anything.

Replace the HDD.




chkdsk will only check for dead sectors on the disk. Dead sectors cause data corruption not performance issues.

Originally posted by Snow:

Shouldn't cause any serious stuttering in most cases, yet might in some. Depends a lot on a particular game, how much it's got to stream during gameplay, how does it manage the thing etc.

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™:

Failing hdd or sdd, believe it or not even an ssd can start to choke with read/write issues without tripping smart. Can usually see the issue in eventviewer

So to sum things up; the problem is as you guys figured the HDD, I ran a scan and it's not performing as it should. 34% defective.

Would you guys recommend me on a good HDD type?
Is Seagate any good? My friend recommended me.
And once again thanks for all your help.

Yes they are. As u're familiar with userbenchmark - would be easy for you to figure out best value/performance. Using ST2000DM006 for OS and games for a couple of years now, so does a friend of mine - all good with those.

[HarbingerOfDestruction「俺様」]

Originally posted by Omega:

Originally posted by The Dragon Of Dojima:

So to sum things up; the problem is as you guys figured the HDD, I ran a scan and it's not performing as it should. 34% defective.

Would you guys recommend me on a good HDD type?
Is Seagate any good? My friend recommended me.
And once again thanks for all your help.

If you want a new budget HDD get a WD Blue 7200rpm or Seagate Barracuda. When you want a performance drive get a WD Black, Gold or Seagate Firecuda.

Originally posted by Snow:

Originally posted by The Dragon Of Dojima:

So to sum things up; the problem is as you guys figured the HDD, I ran a scan and it's not performing as it should. 34% defective.

Would you guys recommend me on a good HDD type?
Is Seagate any good? My friend recommended me.
And once again thanks for all your help.

Yes they are. As u're familiar with userbenchmark - would be easy for you to figure out best value/performance. Using ST2000DM006 for OS and games for a couple of years now, so does a friend of mine - all good with those.

I see, my current ones are WD Blue 2.5 one of the drives is from 2013 the other from 2004 (believe it or not) is WD blue 2.5 a bad HDD driver??
even then, it's performing really bad according to the scan.

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HDD is dirt slow or dead.

By default the page file is made on the C: drive, so assuming ytou installed Windows on the SSD it's already there. The page file is only used when the PC unloads stuff it's currently not using from memory. During normal usage in a balanced system the page file is barely used. Your system would even run fine without a page file.

So no, messing around with the page file won't change anything.

Replace the HDD.