Wisman 11 ENE 2019 a las 1:14 p. m.
Would a i5 2500k bottleneck a rx 570
I would like to know if this would be a bottleneck. I might upgrade in mid-summer. Is it also a major improvement from my Amd Fx 6300
Última edición por Wisman; 11 ENE 2019 a las 1:14 p. m.
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Snow 11 ENE 2019 a las 1:51 p. m. 
There's no such thing as "this will bottleneck that", as you can get to 100% GPU load by using the higher resolution and settings with pretty much any modern-ish setup. i5 2500k might not be enough for the most CPU-heavy games, tho it will give u 60 FPS in let's say Mass Effect: Andromeda with ease. It only depends on the type of games u're going to play and on desirable framerate.
Does your motherboard not support FX 8300? Cuz it would be way cheaper than buying a new mobo aswell.
Wisman 11 ENE 2019 a las 1:58 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Snow:
There's no such thing as "this will bottleneck that", as you can get to 100% GPU load by using the higher resolution and settings with pretty much any modern-ish setup. i5 2500k might not be enough for the most CPU-heavy games, tho it will give u 60 FPS in let's say Mass Effect: Andromeda with ease. It only depends on the type of games u're going to play and on desirable framerate.
Does your motherboard not support FX 8300? Cuz it would be way cheaper than buying a new mobo aswell.
it does but i found many i5 2500k with mobos for like 30 dollars more
The Chicagoan 11 ENE 2019 a las 2:04 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Snow:
There's no such thing as "this will bottleneck that", as you can get to 100% GPU load by using the higher resolution and settings with pretty much any modern-ish setup. i5 2500k might not be enough for the most CPU-heavy games, tho it will give u 60 FPS in let's say Mass Effect: Andromeda with ease. It only depends on the type of games u're going to play and on desirable framerate.
Does your motherboard not support FX 8300? Cuz it would be way cheaper than buying a new mobo aswell.
There's honestly no reason he should pay under 100 dollars just to get 2-5 FPS gain. The CPU performance wise are almost identical, the 6300 and 8300...

A i5 2500K vs the 6300 had almost a 40 FPS difference at all times in GTA 5.. And he is indeed bottlenecking the RX 570, considering it's very similar to the GTX 1050TI and GTX 1060 3GB, would it be cheaper? Sure. But price to performance? Hell no. It's not good. The best investment would be to go buy a cheap LGA 1155 motherboard, or one that is decent, then buy the CPU used on eBay. He would get better price to performance then the AM3 socket, and FX 6300 CPU/8300.
Snow 11 ENE 2019 a las 2:21 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por The Chicagoan:
Publicado originalmente por Snow:
There's no such thing as "this will bottleneck that", as you can get to 100% GPU load by using the higher resolution and settings with pretty much any modern-ish setup. i5 2500k might not be enough for the most CPU-heavy games, tho it will give u 60 FPS in let's say Mass Effect: Andromeda with ease. It only depends on the type of games u're going to play and on desirable framerate.
Does your motherboard not support FX 8300? Cuz it would be way cheaper than buying a new mobo aswell.
There's honestly no reason he should pay under 100 dollars just to get 2-5 FPS gain. The CPU performance wise are almost identical, the 6300 and 8300...

A i5 2500K vs the 6300 had almost a 40 FPS difference at all times in GTA 5.. And he is indeed bottlenecking the RX 570, considering it's very similar to the GTX 1050TI and GTX 1060 3GB, would it be cheaper? Sure. But price to performance? Hell no. It's not good. The best investment would be to go buy a cheap LGA 1155 motherboard, or one that is decent, then buy the CPU used on eBay. He would get better price to performance then the AM3 socket, and FX 6300 CPU/8300.
Slightly overclocked FX 83xx performs at i7 2600k level, so it is better price/performance than i5 2500k considering he's already got AM3+ mobo. To beat that with 1155 he'll have to OC it aswell, but then he needs to spend even more for 1155 Z-mobo.
And he didn't say a single thing about any exact game he's going to play, or resolution, or settings, how can u even possibly know what's going to bottleneck?
Última edición por Snow; 11 ENE 2019 a las 2:21 p. m.
Wisman 11 ENE 2019 a las 2:32 p. m. 
Thanks for the feedback, but on cpubenchmarks it says it is about 30% faster.
Also I will be playing games like Planet Coaster, Cities Skylines, and BF1
The Chicagoan 11 ENE 2019 a las 2:34 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Snow:
Publicado originalmente por The Chicagoan:
There's honestly no reason he should pay under 100 dollars just to get 2-5 FPS gain. The CPU performance wise are almost identical, the 6300 and 8300...

A i5 2500K vs the 6300 had almost a 40 FPS difference at all times in GTA 5.. And he is indeed bottlenecking the RX 570, considering it's very similar to the GTX 1050TI and GTX 1060 3GB, would it be cheaper? Sure. But price to performance? Hell no. It's not good. The best investment would be to go buy a cheap LGA 1155 motherboard, or one that is decent, then buy the CPU used on eBay. He would get better price to performance then the AM3 socket, and FX 6300 CPU/8300.
Slightly overclocked FX 83xx performs at i7 2600k level, so it is better price/performance than i5 2500k considering he's already got AM3+ mobo. To beat that with 1155 he'll have to OC it aswell, but then he needs to spend even more for 1155 Z-mobo.
And he didn't say a single thing about any exact game he's going to play, or resolution, or settings, how can u even possibly know what's going to bottleneck?
FX CPU's will bottleneck almost every modern day GPU. They are very slow for CPU's. The GPU is a mid range card and the CPU is low end. So obviously it's going to bottleneck.
Snow 11 ENE 2019 a las 2:35 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por wisman3:
Thanks for the feedback, but on cpubenchmarks it says it is about 30% faster.
Also I will be playing games like Planet Coaster, Cities Skylines, and BF1
It is faster in single-core tasks and slower in multi-core ones like the modern games, and Intel only allows to overclock K-CPUs on Z-mobos, while with AMD u can overclock pretty much anything.
Wisman 11 ENE 2019 a las 2:36 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Snow:
Publicado originalmente por wisman3:
Thanks for the feedback, but on cpubenchmarks it says it is about 30% faster.
Also I will be playing games like Planet Coaster, Cities Skylines, and BF1
It is faster in single-core tasks and slower in multi-core ones like the modern games, and Intel only allows to overclock K-CPUs on Z-mobos, while with AMD u can overclock pretty much anything.
or should I just get a r3 1200?
Snow 11 ENE 2019 a las 2:40 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por The Chicagoan:
Publicado originalmente por Snow:
Slightly overclocked FX 83xx performs at i7 2600k level, so it is better price/performance than i5 2500k considering he's already got AM3+ mobo. To beat that with 1155 he'll have to OC it aswell, but then he needs to spend even more for 1155 Z-mobo.
And he didn't say a single thing about any exact game he's going to play, or resolution, or settings, how can u even possibly know what's going to bottleneck?
FX CPU's will bottleneck almost every modern day GPU. They are very slow for CPU's. The GPU is a mid range card and the CPU is low end. So obviously it's going to bottleneck.
Sure, alright. Let's check how weak low end FX-6300 bottlenecks RX 570.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcMzZpr-FCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCVN2roG0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6v7s-nRlPM
What's that, 100% GPU load? In modern games, with stock FX-6300? Damn, must be fake!

Publicado originalmente por wisman3:
Publicado originalmente por Snow:
It is faster in single-core tasks and slower in multi-core ones like the modern games, and Intel only allows to overclock K-CPUs on Z-mobos, while with AMD u can overclock pretty much anything.
or should I just get a r3 1200?
Moving to a new platform is always a nice idea, tho if u've got money for all that stuff - then u can also go for 2200G or 1600X, as those give more performance per dollar.
Última edición por rotNdude; 12 ENE 2019 a las 8:49 a. m.
Talby 11 ENE 2019 a las 2:59 p. m. 
The i5-2500k is a good match for the rx-570, I had one with an r9-390 until Black Friday last season it was awesome. Agree much better than any FX cpu just for the higher IPC in itself...
nullable 11 ENE 2019 a las 3:14 p. m. 
I mean upgrading to a 7 year old CPU isn't much of an upgrade. If having an optimal configuration was really a priority you probably wouldn't be buying 7 year old CPU's and pairing it with current midrange hardware and calling it an upgrade. So I don't think it matters.

That being said the wife ran a GeForce 1070 in her i5 2500k for two years (as an upgrade from a GeForce 670) before we built a new 8600k based system. Upsides were, she got a huge upgrade over the 670. And didn't need a new GPU for her 8600k. So did it bottleneck? Who cares? I don't care. It's not like buying a crummier GPU in 2016 and a good GPU in 2018 would have been cheaper.
Mr Blonde 11 ENE 2019 a las 3:43 p. m. 
If you got for the r3 2200 you might as well pay a little extra and go for the r5 2600. Perfect gaming cpu
Talby 11 ENE 2019 a las 4:19 p. m. 
It's all about the benjamins... A used 2500k & z68 or z77 board could get a good deal for about ~$125, and the ddr3 can be re-used. A 2600 / b450 / 16gb ram (why settle for 2x8gb where does it stop lol), now we're talking ~$350.
[☥] - CJ - 11 ENE 2019 a las 4:46 p. m. 
Wont bottleneck

But, i would get an Ivy Bridge with a decent Z77 board if you can get one, Z68 Gen3 board at the very least IF you can.

The i5 2500k while still good especially when overclocked IS showing its age these days, so an i7 is highly recommended over the i5.

Either one is MUCH better than an FX 6300, absolutely no reason to buy one.

In short, no less than an i7 2600k or 2700k for Sandy Bridge, for Ivy no less than the i7 3770k.

As a user of an OCd 2500k @ 4.6GHZ i cannot recommend going for less than an i7.
upcoast 11 ENE 2019 a las 5:43 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por wisman3:
I would like to know if this would be a bottleneck. I might upgrade in mid-summer. Is it also a major improvement from my Amd Fx 6300

1st issue I have is you're pairing the Rx570 with an FX cpu it doesn't matter which FX cpu but a GTX nvidia card will always run better on the FX cpu platform.

The i5 2500 has a higher ipc than the FX but in modern gaming FX multi cores actually do alright.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Brudavaloredge/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jiXkrRoD4w

I don't believe you should move to a quad core at this time since there're better value in ryzen 2600 and ryzen 3xxx showing up this year.
Última edición por upcoast; 11 ENE 2019 a las 5:44 p. m.
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