60hz 1ms ips monitor in 2020

[Deathstrike]

should i upgrade?

[Mr Blonde]

Just read the in depth review on toms hardware and it really is a fantastic monitor for gaming.

[Deathstrike]

引用自 Mr Blonde：

Just read the in depth review on toms hardware and it really is a fantastic monitor for gaming.

Nice!

[r.linder]

引用自 Mr Blonde：

Just read the in depth review on toms hardware and it really is a fantastic monitor for gaming.

Compared to a TN or IPS panel for fast paced and/or competitive games, VA is awful. Getting a VA panel as fast as an IPS is actually as rare as a unicorn, 99% of them have garbage response times.

引用自 Mr Blonde：

Yeah the 100’s of reviews from people who actually own it must be wrong

No, simply too inexperienced with display technology to know how much of a RIP-off that VA panels are. They are the worst panels on the market for a lot of games, simple fact.
I didn't know, bought it, used it for so long, and learned from my mistake. So did Grimy_Rick.

VA should be avoided regardless, I don't care about one monitor's reviews made by a majority of people that don't know much and by a website that is just a source of opinion. VA is objectively the worst, not worth it.

[Mr Blonde]

引用自 Escorve：

引用自 Mr Blonde：

Just read the in depth review on toms hardware and it really is a fantastic monitor for gaming.

Compared to a TN or IPS panel for fast paced and/or competitive games, VA is awful. Getting a VA panel as fast as an IPS is actually as rare as a unicorn, 99% of them have garbage response times.

引用自 Mr Blonde：

Yeah the 100’s of reviews from people who actually own it must be wrong

No, simply too inexperienced with display technology to know how much of a RIP-off that VA panels are. They are the worst panels on the market for a lot of games, simple fact.
I didn't know, bought it, used it for so long, and learned from my mistake. So did Grimy_Rick.

VA should be avoided regardless, I don't care about one monitor's reviews made by a majority of people that don't know much and by a website that is just a source of opinion. VA is objectively the worst, not worth it.

Ok so your advice is ignore the opinions of people using the monitor after spending £400 saying it’s good because they don’t know much about technology and also a reputable website saying it’s good for gaming.

Because you say VA is the worst

I use a va monitor and I find it better. I prefer the better colours, contrast etc and I’m happy with 4ms

Because I can’t tel the difference between my 1ms monitor and my 4ms one. It’s all just an advertisement gimmick so people on hardware forums can measure who’s got the biggest lol

Anyway good choice on the monitor op

[Talby]

引用自 Escorve：

...Most VA panels are 8+ ms regardless of what the label states.

I think you are referring to the first-gen 1800R panels, they were 8ms - I also avoided those. The newer 1500R models that followed were much improved, just about matching IPS:

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-c24g1/

引用自 pcmonitors.info C24G1 review：

Responsiveness
Input lag
We used a small tool called SMTT 2.0 and a sensitive camera to measure latency on the C24G1, comparing to various screens of known latency. To help maximise accuracy, over 30 repeat readings were taken. Using the method, we measured 3.97ms (under 2/3rds of a frame @144Hz) of input lag. Activating MBR (Motion Blur Reduction) did not have a measurable effect on input lag and neither did having FreeSync active vs. not active in the OSD. This value is influenced by the element of input lag you ‘feel’ (signal delay) and that which you ‘see’ (pixel responsiveness). It indicates a low signal delay which shouldn’t bother even sensitive users. Unfortunately, we don’t have the means to accurately measure input lag with FreeSync active in a variable refresh rate environment. Input lag felt suitably low to us with FreeSync doing its thing, however.

IMO the MBR function is also a must, without that it can get quite nauseating. Had mine for almost a year now, VA does very well in low-light space and stealth games, where the high contrast ratio shines - and where IPS backlight bleed becomes very pronounced.

[r.linder]

引用自 Mr Blonde：

引用自 Escorve：

Compared to a TN or IPS panel for fast paced and/or competitive games, VA is awful. Getting a VA panel as fast as an IPS is actually as rare as a unicorn, 99% of them have garbage response times.


No, simply too inexperienced with display technology to know how much of a RIP-off that VA panels are. They are the worst panels on the market for a lot of games, simple fact.
I didn't know, bought it, used it for so long, and learned from my mistake. So did Grimy_Rick.

VA should be avoided regardless, I don't care about one monitor's reviews made by a majority of people that don't know much and by a website that is just a source of opinion. VA is objectively the worst, not worth it.

Ok so your advice is ignore the opinions of people using the monitor after spending £400 saying it’s good because they don’t know much about technology and also a reputable website saying it’s good for gaming.

Because you say VA is the worst

I use a va monitor and I find it better. I prefer the better colours, contrast etc and I’m happy with 4ms

Because I can’t tel the difference between my 1ms monitor and my 4ms one. It’s all just an advertisement gimmick so people on hardware forums can measure who’s got the biggest lol

Anyway good choice on the monitor op

"It's fine for me" is a typical response of someone that doesn't understand what a waste of money VA is.
I use TN and VA, it's definitely not worth the color. It really isn't that impressive, and the ghosting is a deal breaker.

My VA panel was about 500$ CDN, not including sales tax. Around the same price as my TN which offers 240Hz instead of 144Hz, actually much better response time, and the same typical features of an ASUS monitor.

And again, you're naively going by response times in gtg and not focusing on the ACTUAL response time of the panel. Most VA panels are 8ms or higher at least.

[r.linder]

引用自 Talby：

引用自 Escorve：

...Most VA panels are 8+ ms regardless of what the label states.

I think you are referring to the first-gen 1800R panels, they were 8ms - I also avoided those. The newer 1500R models that followed were much improved, just about matching IPS:

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-c24g1/

引用自 pcmonitors.info C24G1 review：

Responsiveness
Input lag
We used a small tool called SMTT 2.0 and a sensitive camera to measure latency on the C24G1, comparing to various screens of known latency. To help maximise accuracy, over 30 repeat readings were taken. Using the method, we measured 3.97ms (under 2/3rds of a frame @144Hz) of input lag. Activating MBR (Motion Blur Reduction) did not have a measurable effect on input lag and neither did having FreeSync active vs. not active in the OSD. This value is influenced by the element of input lag you ‘feel’ (signal delay) and that which you ‘see’ (pixel responsiveness). It indicates a low signal delay which shouldn’t bother even sensitive users. Unfortunately, we don’t have the means to accurately measure input lag with FreeSync active in a variable refresh rate environment. Input lag felt suitably low to us with FreeSync doing its thing, however.

IMO the MBR function is also a must, without that it can get quite nauseating. Had mine for almost a year now, VA does very well in low-light space and stealth games, where the high contrast ratio shines - and where IPS backlight bleed becomes very pronounced.

The S3220dgf is 1800R, not the newer 1500R. So it's no better than my VA panel, and probably very similar spec, if not from the same source.

So ghosting is going to be bad.

[Pharaoh (Revolution Idol)]

引用自 Escorve：

So ghosting is going to be bad.

That's just built in motion blur.