Deathstrike 12 JUL 2020 a las 3:51
60hz 1ms ips monitor in 2020
should i upgrade?
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Deathstrike 13 JUL 2020 a las 11:10 
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S3220DGF its a va panel
Lord have mercy, you made a mistake that you need to correct immediately before you can't return the panel.

VA panels have the worst actual response times, closer to 8~10 ms on average, and it causes horrific ghosting that ruins the experience in fast paced games where every millisecond counts. The average for IPS is around 6ms, while the average for TN is 5. The advertised response time is somewhat of a lie, because it only applies to when the screen goes from grey to grey and doesn't apply to color display in real-time gaming.

If I were you, I would return it and choose a 27" 1440p IPS panel instead, VA is complete garbage, and higher panel sizes lowers the pixel density and makes aliasing worse, almost mandating the use of anti-aliasing. (Keep in mind that I have a TN 24" and 27" VA in my room, and the TN is considerably better than the VA for gaming experience despite the prices being the same; the response time of the TN is significantly better than the VA, making it more enjoyable for fast-paced titles)
can't return the monitor bro but im still happy with my choice
r.linder 13 JUL 2020 a las 11:12 
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Lord have mercy, you made a mistake that you need to correct immediately before you can't return the panel.

VA panels have the worst actual response times, closer to 8~10 ms on average, and it causes horrific ghosting that ruins the experience in fast paced games where every millisecond counts. The average for IPS is around 6ms, while the average for TN is 5. The advertised response time is somewhat of a lie, because it only applies to when the screen goes from grey to grey and doesn't apply to color display in real-time gaming.

If I were you, I would return it and choose a 27" 1440p IPS panel instead, VA is complete garbage, and higher panel sizes lowers the pixel density and makes aliasing worse, almost mandating the use of anti-aliasing. (Keep in mind that I have a TN 24" and 27" VA in my room, and the TN is considerably better than the VA for gaming experience despite the prices being the same; the response time of the TN is significantly better than the VA, making it more enjoyable for fast-paced titles)
can't return the monitor bro but im still happy with my choice
You'll regret it later, trust me. It's inevitable.
SoldierScar 13 JUL 2020 a las 11:18 
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Cant find an in-depth review of response time of that one..hope you are happy with the monitor.
You don't need to see a review to know that the response time is going to be worse than IPS and twice as slow as TN, because most VA panels are around 10ms, if not worse. All VA panels are going to have ghosting the worst, guaranteed.

VA is an all-rounder that's decent for the price but awful for gaming. I have a good quality VA panel and I really don't like it as a marketed gaming monitor.
I know, but there is one good 32" 1440p 144 hz monitor, LG 32GK650F which has 6.5 avg response time, thats pretty good for a 32" va and enough for a true 144 hz experience...OP should get that instead if he wants 32" badly.
Mr Blonde 13 JUL 2020 a las 11:46 
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Which one exactly, 32" 1440p panels are VA, some of them has slow response time even for a true 144hz experience but they are 165hz.
S3220DGF its a va panel

It’s a good monitor and looking at specs it’s only 4ms response. Nice purchase
Deathstrike 13 JUL 2020 a las 11:46 
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S3220DGF its a va panel

It’s a good monitor and looking at specs it’s only 4ms response. Nice purchase
thanks!
r.linder 13 JUL 2020 a las 11:52 
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S3220DGF its a va panel

It’s a good monitor and looking at specs it’s only 4ms response. Nice purchase
Advertised response times are bogus. It doesn't apply to daily use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOb523rNBw

Most VA panels are 8+ ms regardless of what the label states.
Mr Blonde 13 JUL 2020 a las 12:00 
Regardless it’s got really good user reviews and the only bad ones I can find is regarding dells customer service.

Plus just read it unofficially supports gsync
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Deathstrike 13 JUL 2020 a las 12:42 
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Regardless it’s got really good user reviews and the only bad ones I can find is regarding dells customer service.

Plus just read it unofficially supports gsync
:steamhappy:
r.linder 13 JUL 2020 a las 12:49 
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Regardless it’s got really good user reviews and the only bad ones I can find is regarding dells customer service.

Plus just read it unofficially supports gsync
Doesn't mean it didn't bother them, most people wouldn't notice the difference unless they used different display types at high refresh rates.
If you've only ever used VA, you"ll never realise how bad it is until you use TN or IPS.

So in my opinion, most of the reviewers are probably too inexperienced with display tech to notice how bad VA is for fast paced gaming.
Mr Blonde 13 JUL 2020 a las 13:50 
Yeah the 100’s of reviews from people who actually own it must be wrong
Grimy_RIck 13 JUL 2020 a las 14:09 
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Yeah the 100’s of reviews from people who actually own it must be wrong

Not Wrong, Either it suits there purpose which is probably not fast paced gaming, or they are not experienced in the different types of monitors to know the difference, for example i played console for many many years and i thought it was brilliant, then i built a PC and was like WOW!! where the hell have i been all this time, now i would not play a console if you payed me to do so, same can be said for some VA screen owners, they dont know what they are missing.
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Deathstrike 13 JUL 2020 a las 14:12 
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Yeah the 100’s of reviews from people who actually own it must be wrong

Not Wrong, Either it suits there purpose which is probably not fast paced gaming, or they are not experienced in the different types of monitors to know the difference, for example i played console for many many years and i thought it was brilliant, then i built a PC and was like WOW!! where the hell have i been all this time, now i would not play a console if you payed me to do so, same can be said for some VA screen owners, they dont know what they are missing.
I have been playing on console for 5 years, switched to pc and I still love consoles
So it kinda depends
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Grimy_RIck 13 JUL 2020 a las 14:21 
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Not Wrong, Either it suits there purpose which is probably not fast paced gaming, or they are not experienced in the different types of monitors to know the difference, for example i played console for many many years and i thought it was brilliant, then i built a PC and was like WOW!! where the hell have i been all this time, now i would not play a console if you payed me to do so, same can be said for some VA screen owners, they dont know what they are missing.
I have been playing on console for 5 years, switched to pc and I still love consoles
So it kinda depends

Yes Because you have been playing at 60fps, not alot of difference to console, the whole point of PC is you can get a whole more fps, i guarantee you if you get a setup that lets you max out at 144fps or 240fps and play it for a couple of months then try to go back to your console you will not want to play it, your eyes adjust to the good fps, i feel sick now if i try to play console because of the motion blur.
Grimy_RIck 13 JUL 2020 a las 14:26 
Look if your happy with your new monitor dude that's a good thing yeah, i am glad you like it, hope you enjoy it, i am just throwing my opinion in the mix.
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