How to rule out CPU overheating?
I am using a desktop computer and my system reboots when playing a demanding game like Rise of the tomb raider. I meet the minimum specs and I would like to rule out CPU over heating . How do I do that? I've tried Prime 95 but it doesn't cause reboot.

When it reboots the CPU temp is @ 60C when i check in the BIOS. I am on FX 6300 / 8GB / GTX 1060 3GB Mini with Circle 500W PSU.

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2PT (rev 4.1), G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333 MHZ Value Ram
TYIA

Отредактировано erratic_gamer; 26 июн. 2017 г. в 10:11
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BIOS doesn't matter really, it's already too cold by that point.
If it's 60*C in the BIOS, you've overheated I would think. Cause the max is right around that.
Seriously, even a cheap cooler can keep an FX cooled at all times, blow the dust out the system, and get yourself a couple intake and outtake fans... every case should have a COUPLE... not 1... a FEW.... fans front, back, rear...
Sounds like your PSU might be dying.

Use MSI afterburner to display the temps ingame and game until the PC crashes. Then report back with the results.
erratic_gamer (Заблокирован) 24 июн. 2017 г. в 4:13 
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Sounds like your PSU might be dying.

Use MSI afterburner to display the temps ingame and game until the PC crashes. Then report back with the results.

I can't play and watch temps @ same time .
You dont need to, within Afterburner > Settings > Monitoring, find GPU Temp and CPU Temp and scroll down for each at a time, and you'll see the Log History options. Enable these and it will make an active log file. If the system crashes/reboots you could then review the log. Overall, just temps alone is not always the factor in this, it could be something like +12V dipping too low, typical for a PSU that isn't able to do the job when your CPU/GPU are under full loads.

We've already discussed you needing a better PSU, might want to think about better Cooling as well, which should take much. Maybe a CM-Hyper-212-EVO; and also some Case Fans, if the Case Airflow is lacking.
Отредактировано Bad 💀 Motha; 24 июн. 2017 г. в 4:25
erratic_gamer (Заблокирован) 24 июн. 2017 г. в 4:25 
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You dont need to, within Afterburner > Settings > Monitoring, find GPU Temp and CPU Temp and scroll down for each at a time, and you'll see the Log History options. Enable these and it will make an active log file. If the system crashes/reboots you could then review the log. Overall, just temps alone is not always the factor in this, it could be something like +12V dipping too low, typical for a PSU that isn't able to do the job when your CPU/GPU are under full loads.

TY, psu calc recommends 650w gold 80+
Again, you need to just understand power needs; your hardware would be fine on 450W, easy.
The current PSU you have is just poor. You're basing things off the wattage # alone. Theres quite a bit more to it than that.
Get a better psu you're worrying about it overheating get a fan
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Get a better psu you're worrying about it overheating get a fan
Bad advice. A fan won't change ♥♥♥♥ and dropping money on a new PSU without knowing what is cause the issue might turn out to be a waste of money.
How do you rule out overheating on the cpu? Well, run a stress test, that is designed to push the cpu, and see. If you are within operating temps, then that individual part should be fine, as far as heat goes.

You should also put on a GPU stress test at the same time as the cpu stress test.

Watch temps. Pay attention to power usages as well. If you have a wattage meter, I'd recommend using it.

When it reboots, do you get any kind of error screen? What happens exactly?
erratic_gamer (Заблокирован) 25 июн. 2017 г. в 12:14 
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How do you rule out overheating on the cpu? Well, run a stress test, that is designed to push the cpu, and see. If you are within operating temps, then that individual part should be fine, as far as heat goes.

You should also put on a GPU stress test at the same time as the cpu stress test.

Watch temps. Pay attention to power usages as well. If you have a wattage meter, I'd recommend using it.

When it reboots, do you get any kind of error screen? What happens exactly?

When it reboots, there is no BSOD or error msg of any kind.
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How do you rule out overheating on the cpu? Well, run a stress test, that is designed to push the cpu, and see. If you are within operating temps, then that individual part should be fine, as far as heat goes.

You should also put on a GPU stress test at the same time as the cpu stress test.

Watch temps. Pay attention to power usages as well. If you have a wattage meter, I'd recommend using it.

When it reboots, do you get any kind of error screen? What happens exactly?

When it reboots, there is no BSOD or error msg of any kind.

Check Event Viewer.
I doubt if it is a power issue unless the PSU is bad. I just upgraded my old PC from i5 650 to i7 870 (which uses same 95W as FX 6300) with 16 GB RAM and 3 GB GTX 1060. My whole PC peaks briefly at 230 watts max running Unigine Heaven on max settings at 1080p (which uses a bit more power than Unigine Valley on max settings). I am using OEM Dell 350W PSU and 230W power measurement was AC input using "Kill A Watt" meter. With the 73W i5 650 it used 210 watts max.

Max temperature rating of FX 6300 is 70.5 C, so it could easily drop to 60 C in the time it takes to reboot. For example my GTX 1060 peaks a bit hotter with the i7 (72-73 C) than it did with i5 (64-65 C). But when it is running 73 C and I exit Unigine Heaven, by the time check GPU temperature it is already down near 60 C and falling.
erratic_gamer (Заблокирован) 26 июн. 2017 г. в 2:51 
I just recorded the readings from MSI Afterburner @ crash , they are CPU = 51C and GPU = 82C. IMO they are within tolerace limits.

FX 6300 and Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini are my CPU and GPU respectively. So I guess it is PSU which falls short.


AM I correct ?
Отредактировано erratic_gamer; 26 июн. 2017 г. в 2:55
Автор сообщения: pr0BL3mCh1Ld
I just recorded the readings from MSI Afterburner @ crash , they are CPU = 51C and GPU = 82C. IMO they are within tolerace limits.

FX 6300 and Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini are my CPU and GPU respectively. So I guess it is PSU which falls short.

AM I correct ?

Again, check Event Viewer.
erratic_gamer (Заблокирован) 26 июн. 2017 г. в 2:56 
Автор сообщения: Revelene
Автор сообщения: pr0BL3mCh1Ld
I just recorded the readings from MSI Afterburner @ crash , they are CPU = 51C and GPU = 82C. IMO they are within tolerace limits.

FX 6300 and Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini are my CPU and GPU respectively. So I guess it is PSU which falls short.

AM I correct ?

Again, check Event Viewer.


Event Viewer shows "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.", The CldFlt service failed to start due to the following error: The request is not supported. and
A fatal hardware error has occurred.

Component: AMD Northbridge
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: HyperTransport Watchdog Timeout Error
Processor APIC ID: 0

The details view of this entry contains further information.

Can you please tell me what it means.
Отредактировано erratic_gamer; 26 июн. 2017 г. в 2:57
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