jon 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 6:07pm
Is my I7-3770 bottlenecking my GTX 1070?
I have a 1070 that ive recently bought and i was wondering if my cpu is bottlenecking my GPU, and if it is, would it be worth upgrading to a newer i7 model?
Basic specs-
i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz
GTX 1070 8gb
8gb of ram
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Snapjak 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 6:15pm 
If anythings giving you a bottleneck i'd say it'll be the 8GB of system RAM.
Aerulyx 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 6:34pm 
Your 3770 might not be the newest processor but it is still very good in a gaming sense. And upgrading to a newer model would cost you the price of the CPU, a new motherboard, and new ram which can total between 400-600 dollars for about 30% (As of the 7770k) boost in raw CPU tasks but unless you're playing at 1440p 144hz or 4K 60hz with max settings your 3770 will be fine. I currently have an 3770k@4.4ghz and it's been doing me fine. It could be the OC but I doubt it.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Aerulyx; 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 6:35pm
jon 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 6:35pm 
Nguyên văn bởi TheDarkensmitty:
Your 3770 might not be the newest processor but it is still very good in a gaming sense. And upgrading to a newer model would cost you the price of the CPU, a new motherboard, and new ram which can total between 400-600 dollars for about 30% (As of the 7770k) boost in raw CPU tasks but unless you're playing at 1440p 144hz or 4K 60hz with max settings your 3770 will be fine. Yet with the "newer" i7's coming out I would probably wait until soild fps results in games.
Yes i did research in pricing on a new mobo and cpu its crazy
Aerulyx 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 6:37pm 
Nguyên văn bởi xeno:
Nguyên văn bởi TheDarkensmitty:
Your 3770 might not be the newest processor but it is still very good in a gaming sense. And upgrading to a newer model would cost you the price of the CPU, a new motherboard, and new ram which can total between 400-600 dollars for about 30% (As of the 7770k) boost in raw CPU tasks but unless you're playing at 1440p 144hz or 4K 60hz with max settings your 3770 will be fine. Yet with the "newer" i7's coming out I would probably wait until soild fps results in games.
Yes i did research in pricing on a new mobo and cpu its crazy
Yup and ram prices have been steadily going up in price too, that and word of DDR5 ram coming out, it makes the upgrade as of now even less appealing.
Bad 💀 Motha 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 6:38pm 
Nguyên văn bởi xeno:
Nguyên văn bởi TheDarkensmitty:
Your 3770 might not be the newest processor but it is still very good in a gaming sense. And upgrading to a newer model would cost you the price of the CPU, a new motherboard, and new ram which can total between 400-600 dollars for about 30% (As of the 7770k) boost in raw CPU tasks but unless you're playing at 1440p 144hz or 4K 60hz with max settings your 3770 will be fine. Yet with the "newer" i7's coming out I would probably wait until soild fps results in games.
Yes i did research in pricing on a new mobo and cpu its crazy

You're fine, bump up to 16GB RAM, SSD, Win10 64bit
I dunno, I just boosted my 2010 i5 650 3.2 GHz to slightly older i7 870 (i7 880 is harder to find) and bumped my RAM from 8 GB 1066 to 16 GB 1333, running a 3 GB GTX 1060. The old i7 may be slightly slower stock speed (2.93 GHz) but has higher turbo (3.6 GHz) and twice as many threads. So I can boost my graphics in DiRT Rally and see things I did not see before.

But I am just using a 32" 1080p HDTV (2 ms response that can emulate 120 Hz through interpolation), so as long as I can do over 60 Hz in any game I play (in Linux), I am happy.
tacoshy 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 8:19pm 
Nguyên văn bởi MaddDoktor Linux:
I dunno, I just boosted my 2010 i5 650 3.2 GHz to slightly older i7 870 (i7 880 is harder to find) and bumped my RAM from 8 GB 1066 to 16 GB 1333, running a 3 GB GTX 1060. The old i7 may be slightly slower stock speed (2.93 GHz) but has higher turbo (3.6 GHz) and twice as many threads. So I can boost my graphics in DiRT Rally and see things I did not see before.

But I am just using a 32" 1080p HDTV (2 ms response that can emulate 120 Hz through interpolation), so as long as I can do over 60 Hz in any game I play (in Linux), I am happy.

you know what Intel Turbo Boost is and how it works? Also how Hyperthreading works? Apperently not because you post is full of logical BS.

Hyperthreading is easily said somethin that 2 threads use one lane/pipe to push data through. 1 thread not constantly sending data so that the pipe has phases when it is used and some when it is not used. So Hyperthreading makes it possible to push a second thread though that pipe while the first one not sending anything.

So Turbo Boost work by switching TDP-Shares. Its like an information how much heat the core is allowed to produce and therefor how fast it can run. With Turbo Boost those TDP-Shares of some cores get transfered to another core so that this specific core can boost higher as it has more TDP-Shares. But to transfer the TDP-Share the core has to be in deep sleep mode (100% idle). While in deep sleep mode by definition the cant cant hyperthread as you cant do anything to stay idle. In the end you lose 6 threads a 3 cores just to boost a single core to a bit higher clock. That can use still HT but you lost 6 threads in the boost process. So I like to easily say that boost disables HT (not 100% correct like I said).

So talking about many threads (HT) and higher boost is something that doesnt fit together.



PS: In demanding games you wont get far with a 3GB 1060 which is often even worse then the 1050 Ti and GeForce has alot of Problems with Linux that you lose alot of performance compared to Windows 10.
Bad 💀 Motha 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 8:25pm 
Yes, 1060 3GB and below are laughable performance at best.
That's dipping below performance of GTX 970/980, which is too low.

Overall, you just aren't going to get great performance under Linux as far as Gaming goes. Regardless of your choice of NVIDIA or AMD GPUs; but at least NVIDIA is decent under Linux.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Bad 💀 Motha; 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 8:27pm
upcoast 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 9:22pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Bad_Motha:
Yes, 1060 3GB and below are laughable performance at best.
That's dipping below performance of GTX 970/980, which is too low.

Overall, you just aren't going to get great performance under Linux as far as Gaming goes. Regardless of your choice of NVIDIA or AMD GPUs; but at least NVIDIA is decent under Linux.

In all fairness though it's Dirt Rally he's referring to, I did the free week-end with an FX8350/280x no problem at 1080p, not an overly demanding game anyway that I could see so sure a GTX1060 3GB would be more than enough but not the best choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daiF6lYguN4

I ran across this today ^ and just found it interesting no I wouldn't go out and pop a gtx1080ti on an i7 8xx but essentially you could.

In his world of Dirt Rally what he has is pretty much all he needs for 1080p.
Bad 💀 Motha 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 11:05pm 
Well frankly speaking; there is not any Game I can't run well on FX-8350, 1080p, 1440p, 2160p...

I never understood the down-lookers on AMD FX anyways; I've used them and never had issues. But again, I never bought "junk". A majority of every post on here over the years with an AMD FX user; 95% of them had "junk" for their parts, so that is why the issues. Like FX CPU on 760 or 780 Chipset Motherboard :steamfacepalm:
Lần sửa cuối bởi Bad 💀 Motha; 23 Thg06, 2017 @ 11:05pm
xFinal 24 Thg06, 2017 @ 1:38pm 
Yeah it bottlenecks but not to much
Aerulyx 24 Thg06, 2017 @ 2:07pm 
Yeah it bottlenecks but not to much
Maybe at 4K and with a 1080/1080ti it would. Yet the 3770 can keep up with a 1070 just fine.
tacoshy 24 Thg06, 2017 @ 4:45pm 
Nguyên văn bởi TheDarkensmitty:
Yeah it bottlenecks but not to much
Maybe at 4K and with a 1080/1080ti it would. Yet the 3770 can keep up with a 1070 just fine.

even then not. I ran test with an i5-7600K and 1080 Ti to see if it bottlenecks, It didnt tho it came close to it.
Bad 💀 Motha 25 Thg06, 2017 @ 4:32am 
Nguyên văn bởi TheDarkensmitty:
Yeah it bottlenecks but not to much
Maybe at 4K and with a 1080/1080ti it would. Yet the 3770 can keep up with a 1070 just fine.

No, actually its more likely to bottleneck at 1080p then it would at 4K.
But 1070 and above aren't going to do well at 1080p anyways; those are more suited for higher res.
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