Is my gaming laptop’s gpu a mobile gpu?

[COWZYOV]

When I look at my dxdiag for my laptop, it says I have a GTX 1050 4gb. It doesn’t say GTX 1050m. Also, it’s puzzling to me; doesn’t the GTX 1050 have only 2gb, not 4, unless it’s the ti version?

Anyway, I see on the internet that the mobile GTX 1050 does actually have 4gb, unlike the regular desktop version.

So I’m assuming my laptop DOES use a GTX 1050m, and the dxdiag just leaves out the “m” part of the name for some reason? Is this correct?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It's mobile cause its in a laptop, yes.

All laptop nvidia gpu end in "M"

However gtx 10 and later mobile gpus all perform nearly 1:1 with their desktop version

So as a Laptop user, you ust always use the "gtx 10 series mobile" when installing drivers.

[COWZYOV]

Why doesn’t the dxdiag call it a GTX 1050m then?

[Frank ツ]

Originally posted by AÀÁÂÄÆÃÅĀ:

Why doesn’t the dxdiag call it a GTX 1050m then?

Nvidia stopped calling mobile gpus gtx****m

[_I_]

its the same core as the desktop gpu, but with limitations based on power delivery and cooling

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050/m211022vs3650

[Supafly]

Of course it's a mobile GPU as it's a mobile PC. A desktop GPU would likely be thicker than most laptops. m got dropped from use years ago.

[theicewind]

aaand they continued to cut it again, with many not even calling it an "M" or a "laptop GPU". amazing, isn't it guys?

[_I_]

Originally posted by theicewind:

aaand they continued to cut it again, with many not even calling it an "M" or a "laptop GPU". amazing, isn't it guys?

thats because its the same gpu core and specs used in the desktop gpu, just binned lower
same number of cores, tmus rops, memory bandwidth

the 'm' variants were cut down from the desktop models, but not anymore

the laptop model has much lower tdp and performance because of that alone

[Bad 💀 Motha]

And to be honest, the Desktop GPUs are not even that large once the cooler and such is removed. The PCB with the critical guts of the GPU itself are alot smaller then you might think.

[theicewind]

Originally posted by _I_:

Originally posted by theicewind:

aaand they continued to cut it again, with many not even calling it an "M" or a "laptop GPU". amazing, isn't it guys?

thats because its the same gpu core and specs used in the desktop gpu, just binned lower
same number of cores, tmus rops, memory bandwidth

the 'm' variants were cut down from the desktop models, but not anymore

actually they are not the same since 3000 series released like 4 years ago. Good morning.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080.c3621
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080-mobile.c3684

Another example
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070.c3924
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070-mobile.c3944

Originally posted by _I_:

Originally posted by theicewind:

the laptop model has much lower tdp and performance because of that alone

Actually when the same hardware is used they are very close:
https://youtu.be/LbLO1dEyZwk?list=FLzsTlXLwTbHny_eCRH5AYqQ

If laptop and desktop 3070 were both honestly named the laptop version would be like 5% slower.
And the crappy comparison you've probably seen on Hardware unboxed channel used an overclocked version of desktop 2070 vs stock version of the laptop 2070, whereas laptop GPUs overclock really well due to having a lot of excess voltage.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

But it can just be called a "3070" and then at the same time, be different from laptop to laptop. As there are different variants of all those Mobile GPUs as per the OEM.

You could take 3 Laptops from HP + DELL + Lenovo with the same CPU and GPU and you can pretty much bank on the fact that at least one of these Laptops, the GPU would actually have specs that differ from the others and is what can easily be deemed as a lesser, cheaper product. And in the end, does not perform the same as the others either, for obvious reasons; it's cut-down more.

This is another reason consumers who actually care about that sort of thing really need to research the Laptop specs before they ever buy it.

https://www.notebookcheck.net
has proven to be a good website for that sort of thing over the years.

[theicewind]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

But it can just be called a "3070" and then at the same time, be different from laptop to laptop. As there are different variants of all those Mobile GPUs as per the OEM.

You could take 3 Laptops from HP + DELL + Lenovo with the same CPU and GPU and you can pretty much bank on the fact that at least one of these Laptops, the GPU would actually have specs that differ from the others and is what can easily be deemed as a lesser, cheaper product. And in the end, does not perform the same as the others either, for obvious reasons; it's cut-down more.

This is another reason consumers who actually care about that sort of thing really need to research the Laptop specs before they ever buy it.

https://www.notebookcheck.net
has proven to be a good website for that sort of thing over the years.

what? what are you talking about? they are exactly the same.
The RTX 3070 laptop GPU has 5120 cores, 160 TMUs, 80 ROPS, 8GB of vRAM and 256 bit bus width. Show me a single laptop where it isn't so.
The only thing that may differ is power limits and as a result some clockspeeds, but they usually work at around 130 watt TGP. These aren't different GPUs just because they work at different power limits. As the video I posted above proves, raw specs matter more than power limits do, unless it's super low power max q GPU in a very thin and light laptop. But even some of those(like MAX 15) have full power GPUs nowdays.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

This is a broad example of what I'm talking about:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-power-consumption-perf/

[theicewind]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

This is a broad example of what I'm talking about:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-power-consumption-perf/

PERFORMANCE difference, not specifications difference. These are still exactly the same GPUs physically. Also, in real games the clockspeeds are way higher(the video I posted also demonstrates this)

[_I_]

even spec wise laptops dedicated gpus are missing things, no display outputs, or frame buffer
those are handled by the igpu and driver

they have the same core, there is no way a laptop can deliver over 100w to its dedicated gpu

[theicewind]

Originally posted by _I_:

even spec wise laptops dedicated gpus are missing things, no display outputs, or frame buffer
those are handled by the igpu and driver

they have the same core, there is no way a laptop can deliver over 100w to its dedicated gpu

Really? because in this stream there is from 130 to 150 watts sustained in almost non-stop gaming and after an hour of gaming the GPU is sligtly above 70 degrees. And it's not some huge 4kg monster of a laptop, it's a regular-sized 15 inch 2.5 kg one, which is pretty average for gaming laptops.
https://youtu.be/ZIDIcd2DdIA?t=4061
How don't you people know anything about it? I'm genuingly confused. As for display outputs, most gaming laptops with Nvidia GPUs use HDMI port for a direct connection with a dGPU, it can't use an iGPU at all.
Please, PLEASE do your research before posting these things.