New PC in 10 years - parts and help

[Mr B.]

Well here's a thread no-one ever sees ;)

Some months ago, a few really helpful peeps created a list of parts for a new PC.

I'm not new by any means, I used to build PCs back in the day, and built my current one, which is hitting 10 years old and doing well.

However, I know there's people very much in the know, and importantly up to date.

What I'm after is maximum value for money - I want something high spec, that's going to last. I'd probably end up getting something that has a bottleneck somewhere.

So, I'm hoping some kind peeps will again help me out - I'm in a position to buy it this time, with no suprises coming up. A quick rundown...

Parts must be from this site, for various reasons. I know returns are handled no problem, and even with price differences, it ends up cheaper having single place shipping. Plus I have an account already. https://www.ebuyer.com/

Spend amount is £1100.

I don't need the following: Hard drive (I have 500gb SSD Sata3), DVD drive, case (I'll choose my own), or perihperals (mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers etc).

So I guess I need:

Motherboard
Memory
Processor
PSU (a good quality one, but not overdone)
GFX card. (I do have a GTX970, but I suspect that would bottleneck processor)
Oh, and windows. Need to make the jump to 10, I didn't get the code when I had 7, stupid boy :(

I care nothing for looks, lights, LEDs etc. I want performance.

I won't be overclocking anything, and I'd prefer to stay away from anything overclocked if possible.

Greatful for any help on this, like I said my last one has lasted near 10 years so this is going to last hopefully as long. My processor is a i7 920 2.67. It'd be really nice to have a cooler running PC :)

Thanks in advance.

[[wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman]

Look towards the AMD Ryzen 5/7 & Intel Core i5/i7 8000 series processors.

The AMD Ryzen 7 2700 is currently a very good value proposition. Especially when paired with an X470 or B450 motherboard.

[Mr B.]

Ideally I'm hoping someone will make a nice list ;)

When I try and pair them all with mobo, processor and memory, people often say x will bottle neck with z and so on.

[[wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman]

With 8 cores, 16 threads and a 12nm FinFET design it’s hard to go wrong.

Then just add an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti and some high speed DDR4-SDRAM and you’re practically set.

Slap in a reputed Seasonic PSU with moderate wattage,...

What else do you need?

[Viper]

There is always a bottleneck no matter which PC you have and what parts otherwise you would have infinite performace. It has to hit a limit at some point. Its just whether the limit of your system is high enough for you. As far as your amout you wish to spend I am not sure how much that equates to in US dollars. US dollars is what my mind works in.

[[wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman]

It’s about $1,440 USD. 👍

[Sapph]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BHfdxG

Here you go. Your 970 would be plenty, but since there was plenty of budget, I put in a 1070Ti.

£1050

There are various sites where you can buy the Windows 10 license for 20£, so get one of those.

[Viper]

Thats a pretty nice budget. I could see a good Z370 motherboard ( Asus Maximus X $260 US ).. Intel I7 8700k ( $360 US ) 32 GB high speed ram ( $300 US). And a good 650 Watt-750 Watt Gold PSU ( $75- $100)Not sure you could still swing a GTX 1080ti in there however ( $600-$800) without lowering the motherboard cost a little or cutting corners somewhere. Your also going to need a case ..Cooling for your CPU, and case fans.

Actually my projected System would probably cost more like $1700-$2000 US . Would be top of the line though.

If you want to keep it in your price range it has to be second tier.

GTX 1070 ..I5 8600K ...ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming motherboard...16GB ram. Still a nice setup.

Sapph actually has a nice list already

[Mr B.]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Viper:

There is always a bottleneck no matter which PC you have and what parts otherwise you would have infinite performace. It has to hit a limit at some point. Its just whether the limit of your system is high enough for you. As far as your amout you wish to spend I am not sure how much that equates to in US dollars. US dollars is what my mind works in.

I mean bottleneck as in something limiting something else needlessly. For example, spending loads on a processor but it being limited by the RAM. That sort of thing.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sapph:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BHfdxG

Here you go. Your 970 would be plenty, but since there was plenty of budget, I put in a 1070Ti.

£1050

There are various sites where you can buy the Windows 10 license for 20£, so get one of those.

Thanks. But you have me stuck on the fence, would I be better keeping the 970 and spending more on processor/RAM?

[Sapph]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mr B.:

Thanks. But you have me stuck on the fence, would I be better keeping the 970 and spending more on processor/RAM?

Well, with 970 you wouldn't gain any more performance from better cpu.
Meanwhile with 2600X + 1070Ti you will get roughly doubled performance.

And then you could sell the 970 and get a 144hz monitor if you don't have one yet. Or 1440p 60hz monitor.

[Viper]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mr B.:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Viper:

There is always a bottleneck no matter which PC you have and what parts otherwise you would have infinite performace. It has to hit a limit at some point. Its just whether the limit of your system is high enough for you. As far as your amout you wish to spend I am not sure how much that equates to in US dollars. US dollars is what my mind works in.

I mean bottleneck as in something limiting something else needlessly. For example, spending loads on a processor but it being limited by the RAM. That sort of thing.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sapph:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BHfdxG

Here you go. Your 970 would be plenty, but since there was plenty of budget, I put in a 1070Ti.

£1050

There are various sites where you can buy the Windows 10 license for 20£, so get one of those.

Thanks. But you have me stuck on the fence, would I be better keeping the 970 and spending more on processor/RAM?

I understand that ..my point was simply a limit to perfomance ( bottleneck ) always exists. As long as You pick all you don't put anything old tech in your PC and get a current fairly good CPU, GPU, motherboard, and memory those limits should be high enough where nothing severely gimps any other component.

[InfinityJosh]

Private profile, hard to suggest you without knowing games you play...

[Mr B.]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Infinity Josh:

Private profile, hard to suggest you without knowing games you play...

Space engineers, wolfenstien, nothing massivly demanding, but I do want to play sandbox type games without stutter. Though the games shouldn't matter that much - I'm after a gaming PC which will last for as long as possible.

[Viper]

The components may last 10 years. As far as the PC being viable in 10 years however. Ths not going to happen. Somthing that will play a game at max settings now. Will degrade to medium in I would say about 3 years and to low in 5 years. Thats just the way game development is. PCs that will exist in 5 years will at least double and most likely triple the performance of the top of the line PCs now. Thats how the hardware industry survives and keeps selling its products. In 5 years 8k monitors will probably be the norm or at least 4K.

[InfinityJosh]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/#compatibility_dialog

[Mr B.]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Viper:

The components may last 10 years. As far as the PC being viable in 10 years however. Ths not going to happen. Somthing that will play a game at max settings now. Will degrade to medium in I would say about 3 years and to low in 5 years. Thats just the way game development is. PCs that will exist in 5 years will at least double and most likely triple the performance of the top of the line PCs now. Thats how the hardware industry survives and keeps selling its products.

I know, I'm actually quite knowledgeable having built and worked in the industry, I'm just looking for fine tuning.

The fact my current PC has lasted that long (with a GFX upgrade) stands testiment to that. I know about Moore's law, and to my knowledge, it's still true. And yes, I will be sad when it goes :(

I want to get it on ebuyer, which I have done, but they offer this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/830815

Which has a Wraith spire cooler. Thoughts?