What GPU should I pair with I7 3770 & K?

[Randy Marsh]

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[John Doe]

Aura の投稿を引用：

If you are gonna reject my sources then your fault. If you do some research you can clearly see what I mean. Higher resolution does lower cpu usage if your fps gets lower.

Your "sources" are dumber than a box. Please give me a logical explanation as to how the CPU load decreases at higher resolutions. If you're getting lower FPS, it can be EITHER because of the CPU OR THE GPU.

[Teiryn]

John Doe の投稿を引用：

Aura の投稿を引用：

If you are gonna reject my sources then your fault. If you do some research you can clearly see what I mean. Higher resolution does lower cpu usage if your fps gets lower.

Your "sources" are dumber than a box. Please give me a logical explanation as to how the CPU load decreases at higher resolutions. If you're getting lower FPS, it can be EITHER because of the CPU OR THE GPU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbPooQMt3Q

As you can see in the video, increasing the resolution increases gpu and lower cpu usage. At 4K you're so gpu bound with a 1080 Ti unless the game is very cpu demanding (such as in AC Origins).

[andreasaspenberg575]

the best you can afford.

[John Doe]

Aura の投稿を引用：

John Doe の投稿を引用：

Your "sources" are dumber than a box. Please give me a logical explanation as to how the CPU load decreases at higher resolutions. If you're getting lower FPS, it can be EITHER because of the CPU OR THE GPU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbPooQMt3Q

As you can see in the video, increasing the resolution increases gpu and lower cpu usage. At 4K you're so gpu bound with a 1080 Ti unless the game is very cpu demanding (such as in AC Origins).

Again, just because you saw %10 lower CPU usage when you increased the resolution doesn't mean anything. If you do understand about these things, you'll know that there are factors which could actually add up EVEN higher CPU load once you increase the resolution. Open world games where you need to load up a lot of stuff are good examples of this.

You were loading into the map, maybe other things happened and ended on the background... many factors can lead to that. Moral of the story here is, looking at the GamersNexus charts, you can see that those chips, even overclocked, can barely survive the 60 FPS limit in CPU intensive games.

Real boys swallow :) の投稿を引用：

What GPU you think I should Pair it with?

I'd agree with Infinity Josh in this case, just get a 1070 and you should be good to go. 1080 Ti will look ludacris with that CPU and you'll hit diminishing returns in BF V.

[Teiryn]

John Doe の投稿を引用：

Aura の投稿を引用：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbPooQMt3Q

As you can see in the video, increasing the resolution increases gpu and lower cpu usage. At 4K you're so gpu bound with a 1080 Ti unless the game is very cpu demanding (such as in AC Origins).

Again, just because you saw %10 lower CPU usage when you increased the resolution doesn't mean anything. If you do understand about these things, you'll know that there are factors which could actually add up EVEN higher CPU load once you increase the resolution. Open world games where you need to load up a lot of stuff are good examples of this.

You were loading into the map, maybe other things happened and ended on the background... many factors can lead to that. Moral of the story here is, looking at the GamersNexus charts, you can see that those chips, even overclocked, can barely survive the 60 FPS limit in CPU intensive games.

Real boys swallow :) の投稿を引用：

What GPU you think I should Pair it with?

I'd agree with Infinity Josh in this case, just get a 1070 and you should be good to go. 1080 Ti will look ludacris with that CPU and you'll hit diminishing returns in BF V.

*Facepalm* Yeah because the fact that the gpu usage increased and cpu usage decreased when I increased resolution was pure coincidence ....... -_- I am also running this game on an SSD so I doubt there would be any of that. Anyway, I'm getting tired of linking all these things to prove my point as it's clearly a waste of time.

[John Doe]

Aura の投稿を引用：

John Doe の投稿を引用：

Again, just because you saw %10 lower CPU usage when you increased the resolution doesn't mean anything. If you do understand about these things, you'll know that there are factors which could actually add up EVEN higher CPU load once you increase the resolution. Open world games where you need to load up a lot of stuff are good examples of this.

You were loading into the map, maybe other things happened and ended on the background... many factors can lead to that. Moral of the story here is, looking at the GamersNexus charts, you can see that those chips, even overclocked, can barely survive the 60 FPS limit in CPU intensive games.

I'd agree with Infinity Josh in this case, just get a 1070 and you should be good to go. 1080 Ti will look ludacris with that CPU and you'll hit diminishing returns in BF V.

*Facepalm* Yeah because the fact that the gpu usage increased and cpu usage decreased when I increased resolution was pure coincidence ....... -_- I am also running this game on an SSD so I doubt there would be any of that. Anyway, I'm getting tired of linking all these things to prove my point as it's clearly a waste of time.

*Facepalm* indeed. Whoever thinks increased resolution will in one way or another DECREASE the load on ANYTHING, he or she doesn't know what they're talking about. All higher resolution does is to tax your system MORE, NOT LESS. Duh.

[andreasaspenberg575]

a graphics card is never bound to one motherboard(i have transferred graphics card beteen pcs so this i know). you should therefore get the best you can afford and if it should be bottlenecked by the cpu(not likely with your cpu) you can always buy a new cpu and motherboard and transfer the graphics card to that.

[_I_]

andreasaspenberg575 の投稿を引用：

a graphics card is never bound to one motherboard(i have transferred graphics card beteen pcs so this i know). you should therefore get the best you can afford and if it should be bottlenecked by the cpu(not likely with your cpu) you can always buy a new cpu and motherboard and transfer the graphics card to that.

a few dell oem boards will not be able to get to bios without the orig gpu
but an aftermarket gpu will allow it to run windows

[Null_User]

Ok. TL:DR. Seriously. This thread exploded.

First, I would like to ask OP two things before answering with my non expert but more down to Earth advice than a bunch of numbers.

FIRST: What exacly d you want to put that CPU and GPU combo through? Casual stuff? 1080 gaming? 4K? Super extreme lol godly frames per second everywhere?

SECOND: Would you be willing to swap for a newer CPU (plus a new motherboard and maybe new RAM most likely) if you do happen to want a stronger setup? Or are you fine and well with your CPU and just want a solid GPU?

BASED ON THAT, a more appropriate answer might come from the pros "discussing" this whole spaghetti of numbers, cores and bottlenecks scenarios.

I am posting here because I'm also mildly curious. I have a 3770K as well and i totally love it. I paired it with a 1060 because of budget issues, but I may have bought a 1070ti if I had the cash on hand for it. Still, my 1060 does exceptionally well for what i'm using it. Ole 1080p casual gaming ad plenty of old games + a single core intensive korean mmo or two.

Intel Turbo peaks it at around 4.1 GHZ. no other kind of OC needed.

[hawkeye]

Real boys swallow :) の投稿を引用：

ᗷᗴᗩᖇ の投稿を引用：

Remember when this thread was about what gpu the OP should buy?

Pepperidg Farm remembers.

What GPU you think I should Pair it with?

The best you can afford and feel happy with. The better the gpu the longer it will last before an upgrade is needed.

I use a 1080ti and i7-2600 at 4.3 ghz with a 1080p 120hz monitor. Most newer games will use the 1080ti at 100% usage even at 1080p, producing higher framerates. (The 3770k is 5% faster than i7-2600.)

A better gpu also enables the use of Nvidia's DSR where you can run games at 4K on a 1080p monitor. This can produce a better image as the sharpening algorithms have more pixels to work with.

If you ever go 1440p or higher you don't need a new gpu.

John Doe の投稿を引用：

*Facepalm* indeed. Whoever thinks increased resolution will in one way or another DECREASE the load on ANYTHING, he or she doesn't know what they're talking about. All higher resolution does is to tax your system MORE, NOT LESS. Duh.

I think it's possible. Queuing Theory states that it would be.

(I used to do performance management for everything from Oracle Superclusters to Windows servers. Before that Windows development.)

At 4K the load on the gpu per frame is usually higher than for lesser resolutions. Framerates at 4K will be a lot less than for 1080p.

Consequently the cpu can have less work to do as it only needs to produce frames as fast as the gpu buffer can handle them. The part of the game engine that talks to the DX dll is likely to run slower. It only needs to update the frame buffer when a frame is cleared. So a small decrease in cpu usage could be observed due to the slower framerate.

The effect would depend on the cpu, gpu and game. Difficult to predict. No two systems ever perform identically.

But monitoring tools never lie (except on ryzens and laptop gpus).

[andreasaspenberg575]

how many frames per second depends on 2 things. first on your monitor, then on your graphics card. my gtx 650 ti boost for example despite being old can still reach the frame rate limit of my new monitor on less demanding games. the upper frame rate limit is locked to your monitor though some games might have a software cap as well. you can however never go beyond the capabilities of your monitor.

[mtono]

i just wanted to say that the i7-3770k should get a 1070 ti for all the eycandy. it is just my comment. i am too tired to read the whole thread. if somebody else mentioned that: i am sorry.
kind regards

[andreasaspenberg575]

if you can afford it you should go for a 1080 ti. you can always move it to another system later after all. that is unless your motherboard have a hardware limit. if it does you should figure out what it is. on my HP for example i am restricted to 500 and 600 series graphics cards. not all motherboards is restricted however but better safe than sorry.

[FeilDOW]

Higher RES will bring CPU usage down, due to CPU not caring about RES but rather number oif objects on the screen and that will be the same no matter the RES.

CPU usage goes down because FPS goes down along with drawcalls the CPU has to deal with, if you ran the same FPS at 4k as you do at 1080p than CPU usage would stay the same.

[andreasaspenberg575]

that could be correct. i once ran carmageddon max damage on a cpu clocked at 800 megahertz and it worked well on full HD. it was an i7 however. the graphics card is a gtx 770m.