Going from i5-7400 to i5-10400. Is it worth?

[dr_robert]

Regarding FPS in gaming, you think it would make a worthy difference? The low price on the i5-10400 is what caught my eye, since this could be an "economic" way to improve my gaming a little more (I really don't want to spend tons of money) but, will it actually improve?

Here are my actual specs in case it helps:

processor: intel core i5 7400
RAM: 16G
video: MSI GeForce 1070ti

[r.linder]

Not really. You'd have to change the motherboard as well. If you were going to change the motherboard, better off getting a 10600K.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

10th gen i5 series other then 10600K or 10600KF are pretty poor investment. Might as well go Ryzen 5 3600 instead if 10600K and Z490 motherboard are too expensive for your budget.

[_I_]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-10400/3886vs4073

10400 has more cores and more threads
for games that use 4 or fewer cores the diff would only be about 10% when not gpu bottlenecked

for games that can use more cores/threads the 10400 would be alot faster

but they require different chipsets/mobo

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Better bang for buck would be a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max + Ryzen 3600 + Hyper212 EVO V2 cooler

Intel 10th Gen is just not for such lower budgets.

Otherwise go with a budget friendly Z390 board and a 9600K + Hyper212 EVO V2 cooler

And on any modern platform you want DDR4 3000 or 3200.

DDR4 2133 or 2400 would be sub-par

[dr_robert]

Thank you all for your replies! You guys are very helpful

Rumpelcrutchskin eredeti hozzászólása:

10th gen i5 series other then 10600K or 10600KF are pretty poor investment. Might as well go Ryzen 5 3600 instead if 10600K and Z490 motherboard are too expensive for your budget.

I saw the Z490 and it is a bit expensive yeah. What do you guys think about an Asrock H410M-HDV? I saw it supports 10th gen as well and its a lot cheaper!

Bad 💀 Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

Better bang for buck would be a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max + Ryzen 3600 + Hyper212 EVO V2 cooler

Intel 10th Gen is just not for such lower budgets.

Otherwise go with a budget friendly Z390 board and a 9600K + Hyper212 EVO V2 cooler

And on any modern platform you want DDR4 3000 or 3200.

DDR4 2133 or 2400 would be sub-par

I will be taking a look at that. Thank you!

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Sargento Pimienta eredeti hozzászólása:

I saw the Z490 and it is a bit expensive yeah. What do you guys think about an Asrock H410M-HDV? I saw it supports 10th gen as well and its a lot cheaper!

Ehh just dont, cheapest economy series Intel boards are always worst choice with very limited options and sooner or later people end up regretting buying them and want to upgrade out of it.
Minimum you should look for would be B460 series, something like ASRock B460M PRO4 and even that only when you dont ever plan to overclock K-version CPU or wont buy unlocked core K-version CPU.

[vadim]

Sargento Pimienta eredeti hozzászólása:

Regarding FPS in gaming, you think it would make a worthy difference?

It would be big upgrade.

[Fluffy]

i do recommend upgrading the i5 7400 though 4 core/4 thread gaming is really not doing well on virtually all newer games your 1070 ti will do better with a different cpu. i would either go i7 6700 if you can find cheap(ish) and keep everything else or go different mobo/cpu combo

[xSOSxHawkens]

Is it worth upgrading from a 7400? Absolutely

Is it worth upgrading *to* a 10400 (or any 10th gen aside from 10600k)? Nope

Intel is kinda strugling right now, and their 10th gen is more of a joke than not for most. If you are intel loyal and want to stick it out on their side durring their rough patch then spring for the 10600K, which is the best of the lineup in terms of real world use performance to price spent.

If you are more looking to get the best you can for your buck though, highly suggest looking at AMD. The already mentioned R5-3600 is a great option. The only thing I would suggest different is to opt for a B550 or better board. it will add a bit to the cost of the motherboard, but will offer you more of an upgrade path for future chips (likely) and will also give you far better VRM's if you plan to jump to higher core count (up to 16c/32t currently) from existing or future generations. Really, the VRM's and better compatibility with high power draw CPU's are what make the B550 line stand out from previous B series boards. Aside from that, you get (a bit) of PCIe 4.0 to boot (literally lol).

[hawkeye]

Will it improve? Definitely. The single-thread speed is 25% higher and the 10400 has 2 more cores and hyperthreading which means 8 more threads.

However you'll need a new mobo and you haven't got any games that would really benefit. If you said I want to play something now like Red Dead Redemption 2, then yes.

In terms of gaming performance these cpus are similar but there is a small difference in performance (best at the top) plus costs (cpu plus mobo in Australia) -

i5-10500 - 440
amd 3300x - 380
amd 3600 - 480
i5-10400 - 400

But unless you get a super deal I'd wait to see what AMD's Zen 3 brings.

[KZ_Understanding_the_Rain_000]

xSOSxHawkens eredeti hozzászólása:

If you are more looking to get the best you can for your buck though, highly suggest looking at AMD. The already mentioned R5-3600 is a great option.

Agreed.

xSOSxHawkens eredeti hozzászólása:

The only thing I would suggest different is to opt for a B550 or better board. it will add a bit to the cost of the motherboard, but will offer you more of an upgrade path for future chips (likely)

Disagreed. AMD is overdue for a socket change. 500-series mobos will be the last AM4 motherboards, mark my words. AM5 is coming, the only question is whether Zen 3+/4 (whatever AMD is cooking up next) will support two sockets (AM4 chips half the year, transitioning to AM5 chips when 600-series mobo releases).

xSOSxHawkens eredeti hozzászólása:

and will also give you far better VRM's if you plan to jump to higher core count (up to 16c/32t currently) from existing or future generations. Really, the VRM's and better compatibility with high power draw CPU's are what make the B550 line stand out from previous B series boards. Aside from that, you get (a bit) of PCIe 4.0 to boot (literally lol).

No comment on VRMs really. But AMD will continue supporting Zen 3 on 400-series motherboards, so I'd think the power consumption between CPU gens is about equal. The question was always about ROM space, not power consumption.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15807/amd-to-support-zen-3-and-ryzen-4000-cpus-on-b450-and-x470-motherboards

AMD would very much like you to buy a 500-series motherboard, but with B450 boards so cheap right now (you can get a 'gaming' variant with better VRM cooling for like, $70-100 USD), and support planned to continue for them for at least one more generation of CPU (the upcoming Zen 3), which well could be the last line released on AM4... well...

Saying B550 makes zero ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense is a bit of an understatement.

[vadim]

xSOSxHawkens eredeti hozzászólása:

Is it worth upgrading *to* a 10400 (or any 10th gen aside from 10600k)? Nope

Intel is kinda strugling right now, and their 10th gen is more of a joke than not for most. If you are intel loyal and want to stick it out on their side durring their rough patch then spring for the 10600K, which is the best of the lineup in terms of real world use performance to price spent.

If you are more looking to get the best you can for your buck though, highly suggest looking at AMD. The already mentioned R5-3600 is a great option.

I5-10400 has better gaming performance than Ryzen 3600X and costs less. At least, where I live.

i5-10600k, on other hand, costs 50% more and I doubt it would be a good choice.

[r.linder]

vadim eredeti hozzászólása:

xSOSxHawkens eredeti hozzászólása:

Is it worth upgrading *to* a 10400 (or any 10th gen aside from 10600k)? Nope

Intel is kinda strugling right now, and their 10th gen is more of a joke than not for most. If you are intel loyal and want to stick it out on their side durring their rough patch then spring for the 10600K, which is the best of the lineup in terms of real world use performance to price spent.

If you are more looking to get the best you can for your buck though, highly suggest looking at AMD. The already mentioned R5-3600 is a great option.

I5-10400 has better gaming performance than Ryzen 3600X and costs less. At least, where I live.

i5-10600k, on other hand, costs 50% more and I doubt it would be a good choice.

Maybe if you buy one of the cheap crap motherboards for it. Otherwise the 3600/X is still a better deal.

[r.linder]

;2527030866873782252 eredeti hozzászólása:

also check:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-10400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/4073vs4040

Don't use UserBenchmark as a comparison between Intel and AMD CPUs. Most people on here know this, but: UserBenchmark has been caught being biased in favour of Intel, going as far as rigging results in favour of them. The people who run the site also attack people that expose them for it. UserBenchmark is only useful for checking entire system information, their entire benchmark comparisons are based on easily abused averages and not concrete information.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

It wouldn't make sense to have Ryzen cpus beyond the 4xxx series still be using AM4. Course they might just continue with that socket, but have the newer cpus such as 5xxx series require a newer chipset. Just like how 4xxx series requires a B550/X570

I don't think AMD would even need to come out with more cpus based on newer architecture though until DDR5 and/or PCIE 6.0 is ready to be released/used