Dennis 2017년 10월 21일 오전 12시 26분
Windows 10
Where can i find a legit copy of Windows 10? Without spending a ♥♥♥♥ ton of money
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TehSpoopyKitteh 2017년 10월 22일 오후 6시 14분 
x_wing님이 먼저 게시:
tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:
you say you cant buy as normal person buy a license from windows directly. You can. you can even buy boxed versions of OEM WIndows 10 in major electronic stores (at least the countries I know). you where provided with links to back up all our claims and still try to argue about something you say yourself doesnt use on your own anway.

I have been always talking about OEM licenses. The problem is that you think that giving examples of places to buy a OEM key is synonim of legality, when it's not. The real answer (or the one that I would have expected) is Talby answer.


Talby님이 먼저 게시:
Starting with win 8, the OEM license specifically includes a clause called "personal use license" that explicitly permits retail customers to install and run OEM System Builder software - pretty much to prevent the confusion that an OEM license is "illegal" to purchase / use as discussed in this thread.

Well that's new for me. I researched and found that "personal use license" is a new tipe of license that allows you to install by yourself. But it's odd to find this on Microsoft Page:

Windows system builder licensing for personal use님이 먼저 게시:
If you are building a system for your personal use or installing an additional operating system in a virtual machine, you will need to purchase a full version of Windows 10, available in FPP. Windows 10, Windows 8.1, and Windows 7 system builder software does not permit personal use, and is intended only for preinstallation on customer systems that will be sold to end users.*

https://dpcenter.microsoft.com/en/Windows/License/cp-Windows-system-builder-licensing-for-personal-use

It's me or they allowed OEM license direct purchase in W8/PRO but not anymore?
They do. The link I showed you has the OEM licenssed copies availible ;-) You can also check Newegg. Although for Windows 8, you need to realize that it is seldom used for OEM any more. Windows 8's interface was atrocious and was actually never really meant for desktop use. Unless your CPU is NOT Kabelake or newer, you can still use Windows 7 if you choose to do so.

Either way, because of the way the Windows 10 license is set up, you are probably better off using that in the future.
TehSpoopyKitteh 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2017년 10월 22일 오후 6시 17분
x_wing 2017년 10월 22일 오후 6시 30분 
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:
They do. The link I showed you has the OEM licenssed copies availible ;-) You can also check Newegg. Although for Windows 8, you need to realize that it is seldom used for OEM any more. Windows 8's interface was atrocious and was actually never really meant for desktop use. Unless your CPU is NOT Kabelake or newer, you can still use Windows 7 if you choose to do so.

Either way, because of the way the Windows 10 license is set up, you are probably better off using that in the future.

Yes, I opened the link, but the problem is with what Microsoft license says or at least what the heck they want people to do in order to have a legal copy. What I understand from the link I shared is that you can't purchase and install an OEM Windows version by yourself unless it is W8.
TehSpoopyKitteh 2017년 10월 22일 오후 6시 41분 
x_wing님이 먼저 게시:
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:
They do. The link I showed you has the OEM licenssed copies availible ;-) You can also check Newegg. Although for Windows 8, you need to realize that it is seldom used for OEM any more. Windows 8's interface was atrocious and was actually never really meant for desktop use. Unless your CPU is NOT Kabelake or newer, you can still use Windows 7 if you choose to do so.

Either way, because of the way the Windows 10 license is set up, you are probably better off using that in the future.

Yes, I opened the link, but the problem is with what Microsoft license says or at least what the heck they want people to do in order to have a legal copy. What I understand from the link I shared is that you can't purchase and install an OEM Windows version by yourself unless it is W8.
Nope, that applies to all versions of Windows 10 as well. It is completly legal to install Windows 10 yourself and have the OEM product key tied to it and your mMicorsopft account. The other link I am going to share is from a licensed retailor if you need a legal copy of it or need to purchase a digital product key.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/os/#b=64

Micorsoft has a meida installation creation toolkit on their website here...click on Windows 10:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15088/windows-create-installation-media

Anyway, when you have your installation media all read to go, during the installation it will ask you for the product key....enter the key you have purchased digitally and you can go from there.

If you want a physical copy of Windows 10 I would recommend Staples:
https://www.staples.com/Microsoft-Software-License-1-User-Windows-10-Professional-64-bit-DVD-ROM-FQC-08930/product_IM1ZY9606

"OEM" stands for Original Enduser Manufacturer. The license merely means you own the copy you have on your PC and that it is transferable to other PC's you may own...albiet one at a time...but it is transferable if you need to do major upgrades.
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x_wing 2017년 10월 22일 오후 6시 52분 
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:
Nope, that applies to all versions of Windows 10 as well. It is completly legal to install Windows 10 yourself and have the OEM product key tied to it and your mMicorsopft account. The other link I am going to share is from a licensed retailor if you need a legal copy of it or need to purchase a digital product key.

Sorry to be pedantic, but the question is if it's legal to buy an OEM key not being a preinstaller.

Not sure the types of keys they sell in your link, but Microsoft states that it's not legal to install in a computer buillded for yourself a copy that it is not FPP (unless it is W8). So, we're back to the beginning...
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TehSpoopyKitteh 2017년 10월 22일 오후 6시 54분 
x_wing님이 먼저 게시:
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:
Nope, that applies to all versions of Windows 10 as well. It is completly legal to install Windows 10 yourself and have the OEM product key tied to it and your mMicorsopft account. The other link I am going to share is from a licensed retailor if you need a legal copy of it or need to purchase a digital product key.

Sorry to be pedantic, but the question is if it's legal to buy an OEM key not being a preinstaller.

Not sure the types of keys they sell in your link, but Microsoft states that it's not legal to install in a computer buillded for yourself a copy that it is not FPP (unless it is W8). So, we're back to the beginning...
The short answer is yes. Prebuilt manufacturers are FPP....but in the case of Windows 10 it has always been legal to install your own OEM license copy if you are the one who built the PC. The legality is hilariously redunant becasue of the requirement under OEM license is defined as the person who manufactured the PC. Say for example I build my own rig....All the keys sold (even if it only one key sold to the OEM and ever used by the OEM) for not using preinstallation purposes, the ones that require the use of some form of installtion media, are OEM licesned. COA refers to packaging. So here is an example of an OEM:

The OEM Builds a PC, you recieve the PC for free or for a fee.....this also means that you building your own PC means that you will be giving it to yourself...that is all the qualification an OEM needs according to US jurisdicitonal copyright laws. The OEM is nothing more than a reusable license under the account that owns it. That is why you set up a Microsoft account to validate that you in fact own that specific product key. You may only own one key...but that key is yours to reuse for every new PC you build so long as you deauthorze the previous one.

You can trust me on this....I have had a microsoft cert since 2006...I got my CompTIA in 2005 and Network+ certification in 2012. I am currently working on becoming a certified Cisco network engineer.
TehSpoopyKitteh 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2017년 10월 22일 오후 7시 06분
x_wing 2017년 10월 22일 오후 7시 19분 
Afff... for home just use the unactivated copy, Microsoft don't gives a ♥♥♥♥ and you have extra money for games/hard.

EDIT:
@Sir I understand the license reuse (Microsoft doesn't check anything), and the contradiction that could cause in local laws. But it's clear that Microsoft doesn't intend OEM keys for personal builds. We have a problem between what is a legit and a legal copy of Windows. All those rules they have are really stupid...
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TehSpoopyKitteh 2017년 10월 22일 오후 8시 10분 
I bouught a full retail copy of Windows 10...so I can transfer my license as much as I want to...to newer PC's assigned to my Microsoft Account.

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/transfer-windows-10-license-new-pc/
TehSpoopyKitteh 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2017년 10월 22일 오후 8시 10분
notprogress 2017년 10월 22일 오후 9시 11분 
You can find both oem and retail really cheap here .

http://psngames.org/?s=Windows+10&post_type=download
Dennis 2017년 10월 23일 오전 4시 27분 
notprogress님이 먼저 게시:
You can find both oem and retail really cheap here .

http://psngames.org/?s=Windows+10&post_type=download

That legit?
TehSpoopyKitteh 2017년 10월 23일 오전 5시 14분 
Dennis님이 먼저 게시:
notprogress님이 먼저 게시:
You can find both oem and retail really cheap here .

http://psngames.org/?s=Windows+10&post_type=download

That legit?
Nooope. Since when is a product key that inexpensive TBH?
TehSpoopyKitteh 2017년 10월 23일 오전 5시 15분 
Monk님이 먼저 게시:
Go forth and look for the site combining king and penguin and you will find cheap OEM keys, but I am not totally sure how steam feels about it so I won't give any more hints ...

It's not illegal to have an OEM license...jeez.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2017년 10월 23일 오전 5시 15분 
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:
Dennis님이 먼저 게시:

That legit?
Nooope. Since when is a product key that inexpensive TBH?
Visit the other gray markets.
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Bad 💀 Motha 2017년 10월 23일 오전 5시 23분 
Honestly I can't speak for such websites, but that is always the kind of pricing that WinOS Licenses have cost me over the many years of having needed those OS.
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