Windows 10
Where can i find a legit copy of Windows 10? Without spending a ♥♥♥♥ ton of money
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Dennis; 2017. okt. 21., 0:27
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x_wing eredeti hozzászólása:
tacoshy eredeti hozzászólása:
you say you cant buy as normal person buy a license from windows directly. You can. you can even buy boxed versions of OEM WIndows 10 in major electronic stores (at least the countries I know). you where provided with links to back up all our claims and still try to argue about something you say yourself doesnt use on your own anway.

I have been always talking about OEM licenses. The problem is that you think that giving examples of places to buy a OEM key is synonim of legality, when it's not. The real answer (or the one that I would have expected) is Talby answer.


Talby eredeti hozzászólása:
Starting with win 8, the OEM license specifically includes a clause called "personal use license" that explicitly permits retail customers to install and run OEM System Builder software - pretty much to prevent the confusion that an OEM license is "illegal" to purchase / use as discussed in this thread.

Well that's new for me. I researched and found that "personal use license" is a new tipe of license that allows you to install by yourself. But it's odd to find this on Microsoft Page:

Windows system builder licensing for personal use eredeti hozzászólása:
If you are building a system for your personal use or installing an additional operating system in a virtual machine, you will need to purchase a full version of Windows 10, available in FPP. Windows 10, Windows 8.1, and Windows 7 system builder software does not permit personal use, and is intended only for preinstallation on customer systems that will be sold to end users.*

https://dpcenter.microsoft.com/en/Windows/License/cp-Windows-system-builder-licensing-for-personal-use

It's me or they allowed OEM license direct purchase in W8/PRO but not anymore?
They do. The link I showed you has the OEM licenssed copies availible ;-) You can also check Newegg. Although for Windows 8, you need to realize that it is seldom used for OEM any more. Windows 8's interface was atrocious and was actually never really meant for desktop use. Unless your CPU is NOT Kabelake or newer, you can still use Windows 7 if you choose to do so.

Either way, because of the way the Windows 10 license is set up, you are probably better off using that in the future.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: TehSpoopyKitteh; 2017. okt. 22., 18:17
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:
They do. The link I showed you has the OEM licenssed copies availible ;-) You can also check Newegg. Although for Windows 8, you need to realize that it is seldom used for OEM any more. Windows 8's interface was atrocious and was actually never really meant for desktop use. Unless your CPU is NOT Kabelake or newer, you can still use Windows 7 if you choose to do so.

Either way, because of the way the Windows 10 license is set up, you are probably better off using that in the future.

Yes, I opened the link, but the problem is with what Microsoft license says or at least what the heck they want people to do in order to have a legal copy. What I understand from the link I shared is that you can't purchase and install an OEM Windows version by yourself unless it is W8.
x_wing eredeti hozzászólása:
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:
They do. The link I showed you has the OEM licenssed copies availible ;-) You can also check Newegg. Although for Windows 8, you need to realize that it is seldom used for OEM any more. Windows 8's interface was atrocious and was actually never really meant for desktop use. Unless your CPU is NOT Kabelake or newer, you can still use Windows 7 if you choose to do so.

Either way, because of the way the Windows 10 license is set up, you are probably better off using that in the future.

Yes, I opened the link, but the problem is with what Microsoft license says or at least what the heck they want people to do in order to have a legal copy. What I understand from the link I shared is that you can't purchase and install an OEM Windows version by yourself unless it is W8.
Nope, that applies to all versions of Windows 10 as well. It is completly legal to install Windows 10 yourself and have the OEM product key tied to it and your mMicorsopft account. The other link I am going to share is from a licensed retailor if you need a legal copy of it or need to purchase a digital product key.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/os/#b=64

Micorsoft has a meida installation creation toolkit on their website here...click on Windows 10:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15088/windows-create-installation-media

Anyway, when you have your installation media all read to go, during the installation it will ask you for the product key....enter the key you have purchased digitally and you can go from there.

If you want a physical copy of Windows 10 I would recommend Staples:
https://www.staples.com/Microsoft-Software-License-1-User-Windows-10-Professional-64-bit-DVD-ROM-FQC-08930/product_IM1ZY9606

"OEM" stands for Original Enduser Manufacturer. The license merely means you own the copy you have on your PC and that it is transferable to other PC's you may own...albiet one at a time...but it is transferable if you need to do major upgrades.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: TehSpoopyKitteh; 2017. okt. 22., 18:47
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:
Nope, that applies to all versions of Windows 10 as well. It is completly legal to install Windows 10 yourself and have the OEM product key tied to it and your mMicorsopft account. The other link I am going to share is from a licensed retailor if you need a legal copy of it or need to purchase a digital product key.

Sorry to be pedantic, but the question is if it's legal to buy an OEM key not being a preinstaller.

Not sure the types of keys they sell in your link, but Microsoft states that it's not legal to install in a computer buillded for yourself a copy that it is not FPP (unless it is W8). So, we're back to the beginning...
Legutóbb szerkesztette: x_wing; 2017. okt. 22., 18:52
x_wing eredeti hozzászólása:
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:
Nope, that applies to all versions of Windows 10 as well. It is completly legal to install Windows 10 yourself and have the OEM product key tied to it and your mMicorsopft account. The other link I am going to share is from a licensed retailor if you need a legal copy of it or need to purchase a digital product key.

Sorry to be pedantic, but the question is if it's legal to buy an OEM key not being a preinstaller.

Not sure the types of keys they sell in your link, but Microsoft states that it's not legal to install in a computer buillded for yourself a copy that it is not FPP (unless it is W8). So, we're back to the beginning...
The short answer is yes. Prebuilt manufacturers are FPP....but in the case of Windows 10 it has always been legal to install your own OEM license copy if you are the one who built the PC. The legality is hilariously redunant becasue of the requirement under OEM license is defined as the person who manufactured the PC. Say for example I build my own rig....All the keys sold (even if it only one key sold to the OEM and ever used by the OEM) for not using preinstallation purposes, the ones that require the use of some form of installtion media, are OEM licesned. COA refers to packaging. So here is an example of an OEM:

The OEM Builds a PC, you recieve the PC for free or for a fee.....this also means that you building your own PC means that you will be giving it to yourself...that is all the qualification an OEM needs according to US jurisdicitonal copyright laws. The OEM is nothing more than a reusable license under the account that owns it. That is why you set up a Microsoft account to validate that you in fact own that specific product key. You may only own one key...but that key is yours to reuse for every new PC you build so long as you deauthorze the previous one.

You can trust me on this....I have had a microsoft cert since 2006...I got my CompTIA in 2005 and Network+ certification in 2012. I am currently working on becoming a certified Cisco network engineer.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: TehSpoopyKitteh; 2017. okt. 22., 19:06
Afff... for home just use the unactivated copy, Microsoft don't gives a ♥♥♥♥ and you have extra money for games/hard.

EDIT:
@Sir I understand the license reuse (Microsoft doesn't check anything), and the contradiction that could cause in local laws. But it's clear that Microsoft doesn't intend OEM keys for personal builds. We have a problem between what is a legit and a legal copy of Windows. All those rules they have are really stupid...
Legutóbb szerkesztette: x_wing; 2017. okt. 22., 19:29
I bouught a full retail copy of Windows 10...so I can transfer my license as much as I want to...to newer PC's assigned to my Microsoft Account.

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/transfer-windows-10-license-new-pc/
Legutóbb szerkesztette: TehSpoopyKitteh; 2017. okt. 22., 20:10
You can find both oem and retail really cheap here .

http://psngames.org/?s=Windows+10&post_type=download
notprogress eredeti hozzászólása:
You can find both oem and retail really cheap here .

http://psngames.org/?s=Windows+10&post_type=download

That legit?
Dennis eredeti hozzászólása:
notprogress eredeti hozzászólása:
You can find both oem and retail really cheap here .

http://psngames.org/?s=Windows+10&post_type=download

That legit?
Nooope. Since when is a product key that inexpensive TBH?
Monk eredeti hozzászólása:
Go forth and look for the site combining king and penguin and you will find cheap OEM keys, but I am not totally sure how steam feels about it so I won't give any more hints ...

It's not illegal to have an OEM license...jeez.
🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:
Dennis eredeti hozzászólása:

That legit?
Nooope. Since when is a product key that inexpensive TBH?
Visit the other gray markets.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Dr.Shadowds 🐉; 2017. okt. 23., 5:15
Honestly I can't speak for such websites, but that is always the kind of pricing that WinOS Licenses have cost me over the many years of having needed those OS.
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