Kaby Lake on windows 7

[Evil Ninetales]

Is anyone here on the forums using a kaby lake processor on windows 7? by that I mean i3 7350k, i5 7600k, i7 7700k for examples.

I keep getting told repeatedly it won't work. Can someone confirm this for me? I want windows 7 on my new gaming laptop ( i7 7700HQ ). I'm quite happy to delete win 10 to get 7.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Evil Ninetales:

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3008609/theres-a-patch-to-reinstate-windows-7-81-on-kaby-lake-cpus

I think some people had something to say about that one

"The DLL in question - wuaueng.dll - which sounds like "What are you wearing darling" after 10 pints of Old Rosie, is getting revised from time to time, after which you'll need to repatch, because it resets the value of "supported CPU" back from ‘1' to ‘0' - so it's not perfect, but it's a heck of a lot better than having to succumb to Microsoft's bullying."

Have fun resetting that each minor security update for Windows Defender.

And this is what i meant and is accurate.

Every time something happens, say windows updates reverts the file, you have to do it every time.

That would get old after a while and is really not worth the hassle just to get new hardware to work on previous OS's.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ☥ - CJ -:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

"The DLL in question - wuaueng.dll - which sounds like "What are you wearing darling" after 10 pints of Old Rosie, is getting revised from time to time, after which you'll need to repatch, because it resets the value of "supported CPU" back from ‘1' to ‘0' - so it's not perfect, but it's a heck of a lot better than having to succumb to Microsoft's bullying."

Have fun resetting that each minor security update for Windows Defender.

And this is what i meant and is accurate.

Every time something happens, say windows updates reverts the file, you have to do it every time.

That would get old after a while and is really not worth the hassle just to get new hardware to work on previous OS's.

Oh tere is more I am afraid...it blocks updates as well....so no security.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Ursprungligen skrivet av tacoshy:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

Welll unfortunately it means you will not be able to upgrade to a Kabelake CPU. Windows 7 won't even install on PC's with Kabelake because it is not supported by the OS.

You can use Windows 7 on kaby Lake as all top Motherboard brands provide beta drivers for Z270 chipset + Kaby Lake HD 630 on their website...

Have fun injecting those into the Windows 7 install image...The ONLY way to use Kaby Lake on Windows 7 is through the aformentioned patch....

[tacoshy]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

Ursprungligen skrivet av tacoshy:

You can use Windows 7 on kaby Lake as all top Motherboard brands provide beta drivers for Z270 chipset + Kaby Lake HD 630 on their website...

Have fun injecting those into the Windows 7 install image...

hoiw is that hard. Gigabyte, Asus and Asrock provide the drivers ont heir website. You download them click on install and done...

PS: In bios...

[Omega]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

Ursprungligen skrivet av tacoshy:

You can use Windows 7 on kaby Lake as all top Motherboard brands provide beta drivers for Z270 chipset + Kaby Lake HD 630 on their website...

Have fun injecting those into the Windows 7 install image...

You don't need to.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Either way

Evil, Win10 is not as Evil as you think it is :)

I loved Win7 also, but i took a chance and i loves me some Win10.
Win10 is better than Win7, thats just a fact.
And its sure as hell better than Win8.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Ursprungligen skrivet av tacoshy:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

Have fun injecting those into the Windows 7 install image...

hoiw is that hard. Gigabyte, Asus and Asrock provide the drivers ont heir website. You download them click on install and done...

Oh it is not hard...but a recent patch that was released before the Flal Creator's Update was implimented to prvent it fform happening. The USB injection only works for SKYLAKE CPU's and works by injecting special drivers WHILE INSTALLING Windows 7.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Ursprungligen skrivet av tacoshy:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

Have fun injecting those into the Windows 7 install image...

hoiw is that hard. Gigabyte, Asus and Asrock provide the drivers ont heir website. You download them click on install and done...

PS: In bios...

LOL no.....Up to date Z270 bioses do not like Windows 7...I am not sure you realize that the Z270 chipset is designed for Kabelake in mind. Even if you use that method of th injection, you will not be able to use Windows 7 on a Kabelake CPU without that special patch the OP mentioned.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Ursprungligen skrivet av AtTheGates:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

How about the fact that Kabelake is only supported by Windows 10.....
Here is the Start Menu GUI...for the uninitiated...
https://i.imgur.com/eHyZhAY.jpg

Shut up Wesley.

lol "Westey"...lol...no idea what you mean dude.

[tacoshy]

for what do you need an USB injection to update drivers in bios? you simply move the entire drivers to the USB stick. Put it in the BIOS USB slot boot into bios and click there on updating the chipset/bios. after that you can install OS normally and update the rest.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Ursprungligen skrivet av tacoshy:

for what do you need an USB injection to update drivers in bios? you simply move the entire drivers to the USB stick. Put it in the BIOS USB slot boot into bios and click there on updating the chipset/bios. after that you can install OS normally and update the rest.

OK but that does nothing to allow kabelake to be used in Windows 7....most up to date bioses are not compatibile with Windows 7 nmyway....so good luck with that.

[tacoshy]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

Ursprungligen skrivet av tacoshy:

for what do you need an USB injection to update drivers in bios? you simply move the entire drivers to the USB stick. Put it in the BIOS USB slot boot into bios and click there on updating the chipset/bios. after that you can install OS normally and update the rest.

OK but that does nothing to allow kabelake to be used in Windows 7....most up to date bioses are not compatibile with Windows 7 nmyway....so good luck with that.

then read above: Asus, AsRock and Gigabyte provide Beta drivers for all their Z270 Motherboards to be able to use Windows 7 on Kaby Lake... you just need to use those special drivers.

[Evil Ninetales]

not being funny but looking at the market share for PC OS's Windows 7 has almost 50% of the entire market share. Does that not stand for something given how long windows 10 has been out?

Win 10 has 29%. That to me is laughable.

Microsoft are clearly frustrated people still prefer win 7 over 10.

As it is right now the only thing that would get me to move to win 10 is if a pokemon game was released on pc using DX12. And lets be honest. That is never going to happen in a million years.

EDIT : https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🎃Sir Edmund's Spoopy Kitteh:

Ursprungligen skrivet av tacoshy:

for what do you need an USB injection to update drivers in bios? you simply move the entire drivers to the USB stick. Put it in the BIOS USB slot boot into bios and click there on updating the chipset/bios. after that you can install OS normally and update the rest.

OK but that does nothing to allow kabelake to be used in Windows 7....most up to date bioses are not compatibile with Windows 7 nmyway....so good luck with that.

The Chipset has nothing to do with "doesn't like the OS" < None of that which you say makes sense.

It's the other way around.

Overall, nothing stop me from installing Win7 SP1 64bit on even 8th Gen or AMD Ryzen.
Once inside that OS though, I must change a registry string the tell the OS what Chipset/CPU I have, this is only a temp tweal thing, yes it's not something most would want to do, but I've done it many times and it works. Once the OS like Win7 is fully up to date (hide all Drivers shown from Windows Updates and Disable OS ability to handle those), then you can after rebooting after OS updates, change that registry string back. This is to ensure installing Drivers now won't be of any issue, such as Chipset/SATA/AHCI/RAID/USB, etc.

[Omega]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Evil Ninetales:

not being funny but looking at the market share for PC OS's Windows 7 has almost 50% of the entire market share. Does that not stand for something given how long windows 10 has been out?

Win 10 has 29%. That to me is laughable.

Microsoft are clearly frustrated people still prefer win 7 over 10.

As it is right now the only thing that would get me to move to win 10 is if a pokemon game was released on pc using DX12. And lets be honest. That is never going to happen in a million years.

EDIT : https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Steam disagrees.
Windows 10 64 bit 45.37%
Windows 7 64 bit 41.01%