Got a question about my mobo

[Myx]

Soooo, I have a gigabyte b250m ds3h motherboard, its an older motherboard and im upgrading soon, but I was playing mafia 3 today and my gpu temps were fine at around 68-70 the whole time, my cpu temps where fine, around 60-68 celcius. But i looked at my mobo temps and something stood out to me I have 5 TMPIN markers in HW monitor and it say that a few of my TMPINs reached up to 111 celcius, but nothing else is running that hot in my pc all my other component temps are fine. Also my CPU is an i77700k, and my GPU is an rtx 2080ti. Can I not play my games anymore because it seems like my motherboard would catch on fire with those temps.

[r.linder]

If you were upgrading CPU then you'd need to change the motherboard anyway. 7700K is already the best CPU supported by that chipset.

HWMonitor can also mis-report.

[Myx]

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If you were upgrading CPU then you'd need to change the motherboard anyway. 7700K is already the best CPU supported by that chipset.

HWMonitor can also mis-report.

Not upgrading cpu but motherboard, am I ok to play the games though? or will my become damaged because right now, after a restart, HW monitor is reporting that my TMPIN 3 and TMPIN 5 are running at 90 idle while I'm typing this.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Its fine
many times than not the temp reading is incorrect or that specific temp sensor is not available.
Its rare for those kinds of sensors to actually be accurate and actually happens on practically every motherboard

nothing to worry about

[r.linder]

It's probably misreporting, because the chances of it actually running that hot while idle is next to zero.

[Myx]

Цитата допису ☥ - CJ -:

Its fine
many times than not the temp reading is incorrect or that specific temp sensor is not available.
Its rare for those kinds of sensors to actually be accurate and actually happens on practically every motherboard

nothing to worry about

ok and a few of the other TMPINS ran at like 90 when I closed Mafia 3, but then the first 2 or 3 where under 70 degress at like 40-55. So I'm good? Just dont want to burn my PC like I said. and it wouldn't make sense for them to run that hot anyways I guess because wouldn't everthing else heat up badly as well?

[[☥] - CJ -]

Yeah you're good, as long as case airflow in general is decent enough theres nothing to worry about
Real Temps that high would likely cause noticeable issues to one extent or another depending on where the sensor is, but again its very common for those types of sensors to read temps like that

[Myx]

Цитата допису ☥ - CJ -:

Yeah you're good, as long as case airflow in general is decent enough theres nothing to worry about
Real Temps that high would likely cause noticeable issues to one extent or another depending on where the sensor is, but again its very common for those types of sensors to read temps like that

ok because i called the geek squad at best buy and he said i have too much power going through the motherboard most likely since its very old.

[r.linder]

Цитата допису Blickey Mouse:

Цитата допису ☥ - CJ -:

Yeah you're good, as long as case airflow in general is decent enough theres nothing to worry about
Real Temps that high would likely cause noticeable issues to one extent or another depending on where the sensor is, but again its very common for those types of sensors to read temps like that

ok because i called the geek squad at best buy and he said i have too much power going through the motherboard most likely since its very old.

Don't listen to the Geek Squad. Most of them either have no idea what they're talking about or will say whatever ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ they can get away with to try and make you buy something from them or pay more for their service. That guy sounds like the latter type, which is the most common.

9 times out of 10, a worker from Geek Squad will try to ♥♥♥♥ you over. I've had people who were either ripped off by them (or suspected they were being untruthful) come to me for help, and that's true for many other services, because Geek Squad's sole purpose is to make money for Best Buy's board of directors and their shareholders, that's it. They don't actually care about their customers whatsoever.

There was a pretty big media expose several years ago, where someone merely unplugged their HDD and took the system to all of the computer repair services in the area. Best Buy's Geek Squad was the ONLY service that didn't find the issue and tried to say that the system was dead and needed to be completely replaced. All of the small-time services and Best Buy's competitors didn't fall for the ruse.

[upcoast]

https://forums.evga.com/interpreting-CPUID-HWMonitor-temperature-readings-m2553764.aspx

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/883287-hwmonitor-shows-tmpin-4-max-temp-at-128°c/

HWMontitor TMPIN # has been a mystery for as long as I remember.

[JJBandit]

One thing that is worth doing/checking (which you may have already done so) is to take a look at your task manager processes, Sort by processor usage, then check by RAM usage. See if, when idling, anything is using more than you would expect it to.

A couple of times i have had masked apps using for example 50% processor. They look like windows system apps, but when traced back, they aren;t running from where they should be. and it turned out that they i had a miner app installed secretly with some junk i must have downloaded from a dodgy source.

My AV didnt pick it up, a google search said it was a windows process. But i realised eventually that it wasn;t running from a file it should have been for it to be a windows app.

But as everyone above has said. Its probably just a misread, as thats a crazy temp. I use a liquid cooler and the display on the ryujin never goes above 75c, even when bench-marking. I appreciate thats a liquid cooler, so will run cooler in general. But 111c? that would be worrying if it was right.

[Jamebonds1]

Цитата допису Blickey Mouse:

Цитата допису ☥ - CJ -:

Yeah you're good, as long as case airflow in general is decent enough theres nothing to worry about
Real Temps that high would likely cause noticeable issues to one extent or another depending on where the sensor is, but again its very common for those types of sensors to read temps like that

ok because i called the geek squad at best buy and he said i have too much power going through the motherboard most likely since its very old.

That is false. There is no such as too much power in the motherboard. It has MOSFETs so that it can't be overload easily. However, overvolt and undervolt on Z series can hurt motherboard, though, undervolt damage is the least common. Aging copper doesn't affect how much power through the motherboard because it is impossible and can't be oxidized easy.

The temperature probe on the motherboard isn't always accurate. An excellent temperature monitor would cost a thousand dollars.

[Myx]

Цитата допису Jamebonds1:

Цитата допису Blickey Mouse:

ok because i called the geek squad at best buy and he said i have too much power going through the motherboard most likely since its very old.

That is false. There is no such as too much power in the motherboard. It has MOSFETs so that it can't be overload easily. However, overvolt and undervolt on Z series can hurt motherboard, though, undervolt damage is the least common. Aging copper doesn't affect how much power through the motherboard because it is impossible.

ok, and I just hwinfo64 and i have a System, PCH, CPU, VRM Mos, temps and theyre all normal aside from vrm mos which seems to go to 80 degrees while gaming? Should I just trust HWINFO 64?

[Jamebonds1]

Цитата допису Blickey Mouse:

Цитата допису Jamebonds1:

That is false. There is no such as too much power in the motherboard. It has MOSFETs so that it can't be overload easily. However, overvolt and undervolt on Z series can hurt motherboard, though, undervolt damage is the least common. Aging copper doesn't affect how much power through the motherboard because it is impossible.

ok, and I just hwinfo64 and i have a System, PCH, CPU, VRM Mos, temps and theyre all normal aside from vrm mos which seems to go to 80 degrees while gaming? Should I just trust HWINFO 64?

VRM tends to get hot, but that is normal during gaming. I personally never use HWINFO since I have Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master, but it is supposed to be good software.

[r.linder]

Most VRM are fine up until 100 degrees before they throttle or fail, though some VRM have a limit beyond that. All depends on what kind of cooling solution the motherboards employ; most cheap motherboards don't use very good VRM heatsinks (just a basic slab of aluminium) or don't use any at all. It's sad that you have to pay more just to get decent cooling on the motherboard when it's really just a slab of aluminium that takes no time for the industry to process. The actual cost is from everything else; the actual material itself is pretty cheap.

The motherboard in question, the B250M-DS3H, has no heatsinks on the VRM whatsoever, so it's normal for the VRM to get that hot. There's nothing cooling it aside from the small bit of air that passes through the motherboard.

As it's been said before, software like HWINFO64 often misreport temperatures, especially the motherboard sensors.

[Myx]

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Most VRM are fine up until 100 degrees before they throttle or fail, though some VRM have a limit beyond that. All depends on what kind of cooling solution the motherboards employ; most cheap motherboards don't use very good VRM heatsinks (just a basic slab of aluminium) or don't use any at all. It's sad that you have to pay more just to get decent cooling on the motherboard when it's really just a slab of aluminium that takes no time for the industry to process. The actual cost is from everything else; the actual material itself is pretty cheap.

The motherboard in question, the B250M-DS3H, has no heatsinks on the VRM whatsoever, so it's normal for the VRM to get that hot. There's nothing cooling it aside from the small bit of air that passes through the motherboard.

As it's been said before, software like HWINFO64 often misreport temperatures, especially the motherboard sensors.

Ok, so the gist is I have nothing to worry about?