Im buying a new graphics card but dont know what to get

[SeKiRo WeEb MaN]

im new to computers and Im upgrading my old pc and i need help finding a decent Graphics card. My pc currently has 16G of DDR4 memory and a AMD Ryzen 5 2400G. My budget is 200 so im not expecting to get a high end graphics card

[AbedsBrother]

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GTX 1650 Super or an RX 5500XT.

1650s is still only 4gb unless it's changed but 4gb VRAM really is something to avoid.

4GB of vram is still fine for 1080p, which is the main resolution these gpus target.

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https://www.techspot.com/reviews/graphics-cards/gaming-benchmarks/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXv3Zwd16hk

Depends on what game but at 1080p the Rx 580 8GB manages high - ultra, 1660s min fps is still going to dip below 60fps.

Ps, 60fps + all the time is optimistic to unrealistic again depends how much real money you've got to throw at your PC.

MINIMUM frame rate is useless long ago. Because of the area loading time or sometimes game engine faults in open world games that brings down the FPS suddenly sometimes. Even the highest GPU can produce 20 FPS in MINIMUM and 0.1% lows.
So, MINIMUM and 0.1% low is not COUNTABLE as valid benchmarks anymore.

AVERAGE and 1% low FPS is what it matters. The first benchmark in your video shows RX 580 gives 52 FPS average in Assassin's creed Odyssey. Also it is an old benchmarks video and games like RDR2 and Metro Exodus are not included. Neither 1660 super benchmarks.

60 fps+ 1% low is neither optimistic nor unrealistic.
''GTX 1660 super'' can play almost all modern games 60+ FPS on both Average and 1% low on HIGH settings but RX 580 can't.

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1650s is still only 4gb unless it's changed but 4gb VRAM really is something to avoid.

4GB of vram is still fine for 1080p, which is the main resolution these gpus target.

depends on the game and settings
16mb is enough for each 1080p display
but games use the vram for texutre, models, lightmpas ect...
games with more detailed models can use more vram

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I vote 1660 super.

[r.linder]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af AbedsBrother:

GTX 1650 Super or an RX 5500XT.

1650s is still only 4gb unless it's changed but 4gb VRAM really is something to avoid.

4GB is fine when you're not cranking up every little setting, but this is literally where a used RX 580 8GB comes in because you're getting the same performance as a 1650 SUPER for probably less. 1650S only makes more sense over the 580 if your PSU is below 500W.

[upcoast]

You guys crack me up with the rhetoric I've posted in-game screenshots of the Rx 580 using more than 4gb VRAM in the past

Min fps is just that, to see less than 60fps doesn't mean you're getting 60fps all the time that's got to be the most asinine analogy yet.

Anyway I don't have the time to waste clearing up fud.

Have a nice day.

[Talby]

Cheapest 1650S I could find is $160[www.bhphotovideo.com], price / performance for new is scaled pretty well IMO, agree would be an obvious choice if you hate rebates or are power-limited.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

1650 / 5500 are way too low end to even consider buying. Get gtx 1660 Super, or RX 5600 XT, minimum

[InfinityJosh]

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You guys crack me up with the rhetoric I've posted in-game screenshots of the Rx 580 using more than 4gb VRAM in the past

Min fps is just that, to see less than 60fps doesn't mean you're getting 60fps all the time that's got to be the most asinine analogy yet.

Anyway I don't have the time to waste clearing up fud.

Have a nice day.

The problem is not the 4GB VRAM but game optimization most of times, I myself played GRID 2019 few weeks ago and all ran well, 99% time 60+ fps high settings 1920 x 1080p CSAA, but now I played today and it runs like crap, under 40 and 30 fps during tracks, looking Afterburner it shows GPU from 99% load to 1% which means is a poor optimized game, I don't have issues in other games so it must be that game, and no it's not VRAM limit the issue since I experienced fps drops even in low settings 1280x720p.
I probably will avoid AMD GPUs next upgrade, always drivers issues with them.