i7-3820 3.60 GHz in 2020?

[Necrocini Vaperini]

Hey everyone, I would like to know what you guys think about playing in the i7-3820 3.60 GHz? I got my computer from my dad after he gave up on trying to fix it, and eventually we got it working, the CPU had to be re-pasted, as the thermal paste was black if I remember correctly.

My current setup consists of a RX580 Armor Edition, 2x8 GB DDR3 RAM, 1TB Seagate HDD (OS) and 5TB HDD, aswell as the i7-3820 3.60 GHz and stock liquid cooling that came with the Aurora R4 computer case. PSU is also stock, not completely sure about the specs of it, but I'm uncertain if my CPU could be the cause of my low frame-rate in video games.

Playing Minecraft without any shaders on a 64bit version of Java gives me around 40 fps... GTAV around 40-50 fps, I can play CSGO with about 80-100 fps, but I don't think those are good numbers if you take the GPU into consideration. I might be full of crap, but I'd love to hear what you guys say.

This post was removed from r/pcgaming because it had to do with computer components. I was asked if my pc could be thermal throttled, no, my core temps are around 70c under high load, when playing the games I usually do.

Running the latest version of Radeon Software for my GPU v20.4.2

[Wichtelman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPUxO1Ft3qY

your cpu should have no problem with minecraft...

get something like hwmonitor and do a benchmark to see if everything runs properly...

[Autumn_]

It's not great, but it's not bad. It could be much worse, it could be an FX CPU, lmao.

70c under load seems a little high for a CPU that's stock, but not anything to worry about.
(Still, I would be sure you mounted the cooler correctly, and tight.)

If you look in those games, with MSI AB (and RTSS to display it while playing), do you get <95% usage on the GPU while playing?

But, It shouldn't be that bad, you should be getting a few hundred FPS in CSGO and Minecraft, it's not that hard to run.

I would recommend looking in the game settings, and making sure you're using the correct resolution (1080p if your monitor is 1080p), because you could have some form of DSR or resolution enhancement, that'd tank performance for little gains.

[Necrocini Vaperini]

I tried playing Borderlands 3 today, terrible performance, I remember playing on my RX580 for the first time and seeing a serious boost in performance, now everything stutters, I've updated my GPU drivers, I'm playing on native resolution, core temps were 60c in BL, so I really don't know what's up. I've also always had my computer in High Performance mode under the power settings.

[Necrocini Vaperini]

Autumn_ eredeti hozzászólása:

It's not great, but it's not bad. It could be much worse, it could be an FX CPU, lmao.

70c under load seems a little high for a CPU that's stock, but not anything to worry about.
(Still, I would be sure you mounted the cooler correctly, and tight.)

If you look in those games, with MSI AB (and RTSS to display it while playing), do you get <95% usage on the GPU while playing?

But, It shouldn't be that bad, you should be getting a few hundred FPS in CSGO and Minecraft, it's not that hard to run.

I would recommend looking in the game settings, and making sure you're using the correct resolution (1080p if your monitor is 1080p), because you could have some form of DSR or resolution enhancement, that'd tank performance for little gains.

I've also had some hiccups with my liquid cooler before, had to refill it, I don't remember how exactly as my older brother helped me with it, but the cooler, as well as the filter in it, was blocked, so it had really poor flow, but it's fixed now I believe, as my core temps aren't in the 90s anymore after that. But that was almost 2 years ago...

[Autumn_]

Nev eredeti hozzászólása:

Autumn_ eredeti hozzászólása:

It's not great, but it's not bad. It could be much worse, it could be an FX CPU, lmao.

70c under load seems a little high for a CPU that's stock, but not anything to worry about.
(Still, I would be sure you mounted the cooler correctly, and tight.)

If you look in those games, with MSI AB (and RTSS to display it while playing), do you get <95% usage on the GPU while playing?

But, It shouldn't be that bad, you should be getting a few hundred FPS in CSGO and Minecraft, it's not that hard to run.

I would recommend looking in the game settings, and making sure you're using the correct resolution (1080p if your monitor is 1080p), because you could have some form of DSR or resolution enhancement, that'd tank performance for little gains.

I've also had some hiccups with my liquid cooler before, had to refill it, I don't remember how exactly as my older brother helped me with it, but the cooler, as well as the filter in it, was blocked, so it had really poor flow, but it's fixed now I believe, as my core temps aren't in the 90s anymore after that. But that was almost 2 years ago...

Unless you're seeing thermal throttling, it's not much of an issue. So, just have a quick look at thermals and clocks while playing.
If they're fine, don't worry about it.
If they're high, then you may want to replace the cooler (since it's water, could mean the pump is going or there's no liquid in it, etc.)

Edit ; added more detail.

[Necrocini Vaperini]

Honestly I really don't know what's up anymore, I refuse to believe that this GPU just got slower in the span of 2 months. I played BL3, after installing my RX580, played with better performance, had to reinstall windows 10 (professional 64bit) and immediately used the included disc with my GPU to install Radeon Catalyst which is also updated to Radeon Software, and it updated my GPU drivers, I also tried playing Jedi Fallen Order, but the performance also jumps all over the place with stuttering and fps drops. I'm literally playing BL3 on Medium now, but my brother with a 1050 (3gb I think) runs the game rather well for the set-up he has. I'm contemplating putting my father's RX580 pulse in to see if the GPU did decide to commit die. Am I missing something? Like did you guys modify Windows 10's settings or disable certain processes to improve performance when playing games?

[[☥] - CJ -]

How many processes are running, show processes from all users?
Disabling certain Win10 stuff can be helpful

I'm curious if it might be because of Win Defender realtime scanning or something similar

[Necrocini Vaperini]

Windows processes 86-88
Background processes 61
Apps 6 (that's what I run so it'll differ)

What would you disable if you were in my position?

[Fluffy]

Nev eredeti hozzászólása:

had to reinstall windows 10 (professional 64bit) and immediately used the included disc with my GPU to install Radeon Catalyst which is also updated to Radeon Software

install drivers from amd site directly dont install old catalyst from cd then try to update from there

[InfinityJosh]

it is a bit slower than a 4771, which is the CPU I own, I think is ok with the GPU you have,I have a MSI GAMING RX 580 X4G and I can say is a perfect match for i7 4771, seems like the CPU at its full usage has the power just to make the GPU run at its best at full OC factory setting with no bottleneck (OC mode via MSI GAMING APP).
Assuming your CPU is around 20% slower than mine and a RX 580 non X is around 5% slower I can say your CPU fills your GPU needs, a 15% bottleneck is not bad, the CPU is at its limit but still delivers decent performances with a good GPU for 1080p 60+ fps high FXAA/CMAA.

[r.linder]

Infinity Josh eredeti hozzászólása:

it is a bit slower than a 4771, which is the CPU I own, I think is ok with the GPU you have,I have a MSI GAMING RX 580 X4G and I can say is a perfect match for i7 4771, seems like the CPU at its full usage has the power just to make the GPU run at its best at full OC factory setting with no bottleneck (OC mode via MSI GAMING APP).
Assuming your CPU is around 20% slower than mine and a RX 580 non X is around 5% slower I can say your CPU fills your GPU needs, a 15% bottleneck is not bad, the CPU is at its limit but still delivers decent performances with a good GPU for 1080p 60+ fps high FXAA/CMAA.

The 3820 is barely more than 8~9% slower than the 4771, which makes sense because it's a one generation difference. Definitely nothing to write home about because they're both so similar.

[InfinityJosh]

Escorve eredeti hozzászólása:

Infinity Josh eredeti hozzászólása:

it is a bit slower than a 4771, which is the CPU I own, I think is ok with the GPU you have,I have a MSI GAMING RX 580 X4G and I can say is a perfect match for i7 4771, seems like the CPU at its full usage has the power just to make the GPU run at its best at full OC factory setting with no bottleneck (OC mode via MSI GAMING APP).
Assuming your CPU is around 20% slower than mine and a RX 580 non X is around 5% slower I can say your CPU fills your GPU needs, a 15% bottleneck is not bad, the CPU is at its limit but still delivers decent performances with a good GPU for 1080p 60+ fps high FXAA/CMAA.

The 3820 is barely more than 8~9% slower than the 4771, which makes sense because it's a one generation difference. Definitely nothing to write home about because they're both so similar.

since 4771 is at its limit with a RX 580 X4G but capable to let GPU run at its best without being bottlenecked (I tested) OP PC HW combination is excellent since no parts bottleneck each others .

[r.linder]

Infinity Josh eredeti hozzászólása:

Escorve eredeti hozzászólása:

The 3820 is barely more than 8~9% slower than the 4771, which makes sense because it's a one generation difference. Definitely nothing to write home about because they're both so similar.

since 4771 is at its limit with a RX 580 X4G but capable to let GPU run at its best without being bottlenecked (I tested) OP PC HW combination is excellent since no parts bottleneck each others .

There's no way a 4771 or 3820 would be "at their limit" with an RX 580. Those CPUs can handle a 2080 Ti without issue in most games. It's just that in certain titles they'll pull less FPS than a newer i7, or a Ryzen 5 3600 (or better).

OP can keep his CPU for another few years before really needing to upgrade. All that actually matters is if he has enough cores for the games he wants to play, because otherwise it's still a powerful CPU.

[InfinityJosh]

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Infinity Josh eredeti hozzászólása:

since 4771 is at its limit with a RX 580 X4G but capable to let GPU run at its best without being bottlenecked (I tested) OP PC HW combination is excellent since no parts bottleneck each others .

There's no way a 4771 or 3820 would be "at their limit" with an RX 580. Those CPUs can handle a 2080 Ti without issue in most games. It's just that in certain titles they'll pull less FPS than a newer i7, or a Ryzen 5 3600 (or better).

OP can keep his CPU for another few years before really needing to upgrade. All that actually matters is if he has enough cores for the games he wants to play, because otherwise it's still a powerful CPU.

I know 4771 is a powerful CPU which can handle more powerful GPUs than RX 580 X4G, but GPUs like GTX1080 or higher won't run at their max potential, they might lose a few performances (fps) like 10%/15% (keep in mind I have DDR3 1600 mhz RAM).

[pasa]

did you disable the brakes in your system like defender, antivirus, all the meltdown/spectre-related crap and similar? the specs should be okay for playing the listed games without annoying artefacts.