is the rx 5700 xt good for 4k gaming?

[MoHatesMondays]

i'm currently building a pc for my cousin and he needs to be set for 1440p gaming for the next 5 years until a gpu upgrade is necessary again. now we won't really be getting into 4k gaming but just out of curiosity, how well should it perform against titles with 4k ultra? now obviously i could look at a yt video and get a general answer but opinions on here would be cool too.

[Omega]

It will play games at 4K, but it will not deliver a smooth experience in the more demanding titles.

1440p ultra-wide is what I would consider the highest yous should go with a 5700/5700 XT.

[_I_]

5700xt is similar to a 2060s
it can run 4k, but not anywhere near max or with games in the next 5 years
2060s uses much less power and has more stable drivers

5700xt or 2060s could be enough for 1440p near max, but not with games in the next 5 years

for more future resistant, go with 2070/s

[xSOSxHawkens]

I guess I am the odd one out here...

Yes, 5700XT is fine for 4K gaming. Not 4K Ultra, no GPU is, not even the 2080ti. But for 4K at reasonable settings that far exceed consoles *and* are true native 4K yes, its a fine card and will work great. Figure mostly high settings, except on the newest games in which case plane to run a mix of mediums and highs.

Speaking from experiance as someone that runs AMD 4K daily. I use the Vega 64, which is roughly comparable, but slightly behind, the 5700xt.

I play 4K-60 in GTAv, MCC (reach, CE, 2), Borderlands, BF-v, BF-1, Apex, The Forrest, Killing Floor 2, Far Cry 5, Monster Hunter World, Outerworlds, Alien Isolation and a few others. All within the past 2 months. Have been using it for 4K daily since Jan 2019.

I would say that any card comparable, which the 5700xt is, should offer comparable performance.

Again though, at 4K, be reasonable with settings, look into what *needs* to be maxed to look good, and what can run a touch or two lower to gain back the FPS. At that rez you might find not every single thing needs to be 100% maxed out. 80% maxed settings with 4K rez is often far better than 100% ultra at 1080.

Most argue that 1440p ultra is best compromise, but having both 4K and 1440P screens, I can easily see the difference between the two now that I am used to the detail 4K gives. If you play games where seeing at a distance is a good thing, you will love 4K.

[AbedsBrother]

4K at a mix of low to medium settings, yes.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

4K at a mix of low to medium settings, yes.

Mix of Medium to high (for late 2019 though 2020 titles), high for 2018/first half 2019 titles, and higher than high for many older ones...

[AbedsBrother]

Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

4K at a mix of low to medium settings, yes.

Mix of Medium to high (for late 2019 though 2020 titles), high for 2018/first half 2019 titles, and higher than high for many older ones...

Because I'm "wrong" and you're "right," is that it?

I have a 5700XT. Have even made some videos with it at 4k (check the videos in my profile). It's a 4k Low-Medium gpu. Sure I could load up Just Cause 2, which can be maxed in 4k and say, "See, it runs 4k max settings!" But the truth is nobody cares about how well a 5700XT runs old games. It's assumed they'll run well. The newer stuff is what people care about. And for newer (within the last 3 years) games, the 5700XT will hit 60fps in 4k with a mix of Low and Medium settings.
Case in point:
https://youtu.be/IoGZ9afV-N0

[Monk]

Yeah as someone with a vega 64 as well, it's not a good experience at 4k, like the 1080, it will do 1440p well, but you'll need to drop settings a bunch to get a good 4k experience, for 4k, you really want a 2080ti, as there is no point in running 4k at lower than max settings, as the game will look better at a lower res with the settings turned up, but I'm very much in the camp of refresh beats resolution and if you cannot get a 144Hz+ 1440p panel, stick with a high refresh 1080p one for now.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:

Mix of Medium to high (for late 2019 though 2020 titles), high for 2018/first half 2019 titles, and higher than high for many older ones...

Because I'm "wrong" and you're "right," is that it?

I have a 5700XT. Have even made some videos with it at 4k (check the videos in my profile). It's a 4k Low-Medium gpu. Sure I could load up Just Cause 2, which can be maxed in 4k and say, "See, it runs 4k max settings!" But the truth is nobody cares about how well a 5700XT runs old games. It's assumed they'll run well. The newer stuff is what people care about. And for newer (within the last 3 years) games, the 5700XT will hit 60fps in 4k with a mix of Low and Medium settings.
Case in point:
https://youtu.be/IoGZ9afV-N0

Nothing. Litterally nothing. From Intel, AMD, or Nvidia, runs AC:Odysey at 4K max.

And it doesnt even have the graphics looks or anything else to make it worth it, its just a super crappy game with horrid optimisation on PC platform period.

How about you bring us a reasonable example. I listed multiple, and you went and chery picked a widely known bad apple as a bad example.

Lolz

Originally posted by Monk:

Yeah as someone with a vega 64 as well, it's not a good experience at 4k, like the 1080, it will do 1440p well, but you'll need to drop settings a bunch to get a good 4k experience, for 4k, you really want a 2080ti, as there is no point in running 4k at lower than max settings, as the game will look better at a lower res with the settings turned up, but I'm very much in the camp of refresh beats resolution and if you cannot get a 144Hz+ 1440p panel, stick with a high refresh 1080p one for now.

What games have you honestly strugled to run at 4K if not at least at medium or better?

Only game I have personally tested that needed *any* lows, or any forms of major rez scaling not to have lows present was the afore-mentioned AC:Od which again is a known resource hog...

[Monk]

The vega 64 won't give a consistent 60fps on pretty much any 'modern' game at 4k at anything close to max settings, with the exception of anti-aliasing and as I said, if you need to drop settings much it is better to drop res instead.

Admittedly, it's been a while since I last tested it as its frankly a huge hastle to swap gpu now it's mounted vertically and see no real need to do so, so the v64 sits on a shelf.

[AbedsBrother]

Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

Because I'm "wrong" and you're "right," is that it?

I have a 5700XT. Have even made some videos with it at 4k (check the videos in my profile). It's a 4k Low-Medium gpu. Sure I could load up Just Cause 2, which can be maxed in 4k and say, "See, it runs 4k max settings!" But the truth is nobody cares about how well a 5700XT runs old games. It's assumed they'll run well. The newer stuff is what people care about. And for newer (within the last 3 years) games, the 5700XT will hit 60fps in 4k with a mix of Low and Medium settings.
Case in point:
https://youtu.be/IoGZ9afV-N0

Nothing. Litterally nothing. From Intel, AMD, or Nvidia, runs AC:Odysey at 4K max.

And it doesnt even have the graphics looks or anything else to make it worth it, its just a super crappy game with horrid optimisation on PC platform period.

How about you bring us a reasonable example. I listed multiple, and you went and chery picked a widely known bad apple as a bad example.

Lolz

"The game you shared can't run at 4k max on a 5700XT, therefore it isn't relevant" lol
But ok. Here's a game that is biased towards Radeon and always has been. A mix of Low and Medium settings at 4k.
Gameplay begins at 8:40
https://youtu.be/C-usS3RPqvM

[_I_]

'custom settings' is not maxed
if it cant run current games at 4k maxed on it, no way will more demanding games released in the next 5 years maxed at 4k

[AbedsBrother]

Originally posted by _I_:

'custom settings' is not maxed
if it cant run current games at 4k maxed on it, no way will more demanding games released in the next 5 years maxed at 4k

I'm the one in this thread saying that the 5700XT isn't a 4K gpu (though it can play games at 4k low-to-medium if asked). So, while your post was meant as a rebuttal, actually I agree with everything you said.

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

Originally posted by Monk:

The vega 64 won't give a consistent 60fps on pretty much any 'modern' game at 4k at anything close to max settings, with the exception of anti-aliasing and as I said, if you need to drop settings much it is better to drop res instead.

Radeon VII owner here and this is the no1 reason why I swapped from a 4K monitor to 1440p, though in hindsight I should have kept the 4K monitor for later when I upgrade to a big NAVI card.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Im noticing a trend here.

Anyone that *has* to have all maxed out or nothing doesnt like 4K.

Those that *do* like 4K tend to compromise on settings.

Fun-Fact: Its always been that way, and probably will be for some time yet. Even *if* the next gen cards can push current titles at actual maxed settings 4/60, it will be less than a year before new games make them unable to do so anymore...

And by the standards amy of you seem to apply, at that point its no longer a 4K cappable card...

Heres a pro-tip:

I dont know a *single* person who actually uses 4K for their daily gaming, refardless of setup, that runs the games 100% maxed. Its both un-needed, and a major waste of performance at such a rez in many games. Its *always* been this way on 4K, even when the R9-290X was the 4K king in 2013. Same rules apply today, even for a 2080ti. You compromise.

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:

Im noticing a trend here.

Anyone that *has* to have all maxed out or nothing doesnt like 4K.

Those that *do* like 4K tend to compromise on settings.

Fun-Fact: Its always been that way, and probably will be for some time yet. Even *if* the next gen cards can push current titles at actual maxed settings 4/60, it will be less than a year before new games make them unable to do so anymore...

And by the standards amy of you seem to apply, at that point its no longer a 4K cappable card...

Heres a pro-tip:

I dont know a *single* person who actually uses 4K for their daily gaming, refardless of setup, that runs the games 100% maxed. Its both un-needed, and a major waste of performance at such a rez in many games. Its *always* been this way on 4K, even when the R9-290X was the 4K king in 2013. Same rules apply today, even for a 2080ti. You compromise.

Gamed at 4k for 2 years and I loved it.
Anti-aliasing was always the first to go at 4K, then shadows. When I started having to drop textures from high to medium was when I finally decided to move to 1440p. Modern titles like Far Cry 5 / New Dawn, The Division 2, Shadow of the Tomb Raider I had to drop to 1440p for the better gaming experience.