Memes 2020년 3월 25일 오전 5시 58분
Undervolted CPU leads to reboot when playing a game after PC startup.
It was happening for awhile with -0.1V so I decide to go by -0.075V. Stress test for 6 minutes and started up Modern Warfare and runs fine and I got a performance boost out from it but when I start my PC up and go straight to the game, just in the main menu it reboots it self.

Specs :
GTX 1050 4GB
i5 7300HQ 2.5GHZ
16GB DDR4
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Red™ 2020년 3월 26일 오후 5시 35분 
Memes Are Moist님이 먼저 게시:
Red™님이 먼저 게시:
Mine is usually high 30 or low 40 while doing regular stuff. Mine 60-65 while gaming.
Its a laptop forgot to mention it
I also have a laptop as well. I already know it was a laptop model when I saw the HQ.
Autumn_ 2020년 3월 26일 오후 5시 55분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Red™님이 먼저 게시:
Then nobody will take your statement seriously.
Make claim, expect people to ask you to back it up, otherwise, stop talking.
Simply, common sense.
That is not my problem, I'm not the one that started a debate. It is someone's responsibility to show me evidence if I'm wrong.
FireGryph님이 먼저 게시:
Every time someone says something that disagrees with you, you ask for evidence or proof. IF they dont, you go on bragging youre right.

This time, someone asks YOU for evidence or proof, and you refuse to get it?

Guess this means youre wrong.
Autumn has been always annoyed and started arguing, that's why I'm not waste my time proving evidence.
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Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
The reality is you shouldn't undervolt CPU, it is a bad idea.
Actually, it seems YOU are the one that made the claim, so it's YOUR responsibility to provide evidence.
Inb4 >actual no it not! i not need to tell anything. stop argue!

Never annoyed, sometimes arguing (arguing doesn't always mean petty squabble), always correcting people. B^)

I'm happy to admit I'm wrong, if that's the case, but you have to provide the evidence first.
Please show me low voltage damaging transistors. (No anecdotal evidence, thanks.)

Memes Are Moist님이 먼저 게시:
Red™님이 먼저 게시:
Mine is usually high 30 or low 40 while doing regular stuff. Mine 60-65 while gaming.
Its a laptop forgot to mention it
Yeah, we got that from the CPU SKU. HQ is a laptop suffix.
That shouldn't really change the behaviour of it. Because it's still a CPU.

But, you can't really compare one persons laptop to another, unless it's the same model.
Because coolers vary, sillicon lottery varies, fan speed varies, and ambient temperature varies.
r.linder 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 02분 
Simple fact is that undervolting does NOT harm transistors, rather it'll have the opposite effect and more often improve the lifespan of them because they aren't getting pushed.

People undervolt laptop CPUs and GPUs all of the time for the sake of longevity or simply to reduce heat.
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Jamebonds1 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 04분 
Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
That is not my problem, I'm not the one that started a debate. It is someone's responsibility to show me evidence if I'm wrong.

Autumn has been always annoyed and started arguing, that's why I'm not waste my time proving evidence.
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Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
The reality is you shouldn't undervolt CPU, it is a bad idea.
Actually, it seems YOU are the one that made the claim, so it's YOUR responsibility to provide evidence.
Inb4 >actual no it not! i not need to tell anything. stop argue!

Never annoyed, sometimes arguing (arguing doesn't always mean petty squabble), always correcting people. B^)

I'm happy to admit I'm wrong, if that's the case, but you have to provide the evidence first.
Please show me low voltage damaging transistors. (No anecdotal evidence, thanks.)
Then why does a computer has a undervolt protection?
Red™ 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 05분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
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Actually, it seems YOU are the one that made the claim, so it's YOUR responsibility to provide evidence.
Inb4 >actual no it not! i not need to tell anything. stop argue!

Never annoyed, sometimes arguing (arguing doesn't always mean petty squabble), always correcting people. B^)

I'm happy to admit I'm wrong, if that's the case, but you have to provide the evidence first.
Please show me low voltage damaging transistors. (No anecdotal evidence, thanks.)
Then why does a computer has a undervolt protection?
Because, my dear friend, manufacturer are cheap. Look at ASUS TUF series. Terrible thermal, so they locked thermal.
Now look at HP and Acer. Good thermal. Allows better undervolt control if you wish.
It’s all about the manufacturers.
Autumn_ 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 10분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
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Actually, it seems YOU are the one that made the claim, so it's YOUR responsibility to provide evidence.
Inb4 >actual no it not! i not need to tell anything. stop argue!

Never annoyed, sometimes arguing (arguing doesn't always mean petty squabble), always correcting people. B^)

I'm happy to admit I'm wrong, if that's the case, but you have to provide the evidence first.
Please show me low voltage damaging transistors. (No anecdotal evidence, thanks.)
Then why does a computer has a undervolt protection?
Actually, I'm not sure, I could find out, but where's the fun in that? Care to tell us? Or are you just going to keep ignoring my questions?
Memes 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 10분 
Its a Dell Inspiron 7567 and isn't undervolting safer because you're lowering the volt?
r.linder 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 13분 
Memes Are Moist님이 먼저 게시:
Its a Dell Inspiron 7567 and isn't undervolting safer because you're lowering the volt?

Yes. Undervolting is a common practice to reduce temperatures to circumvent throttle issues on laptops.
Red™ 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 13분 
Memes Are Moist님이 먼저 게시:
Its a Dell Inspiron 7567 and isn't undervolting safer because you're lowering the volt?
Ah. There is your problem: you bought a Dell product. Low quality product from them. Wouldn’t even look or touch these at all. They have low build quality, terrible screen, weird sounds and keyboard feels awkward to use.
Jamebonds1 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 14분 
Red™님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Then why does a computer has a undervolt protection?
Because, my dear friend, manufacturer are cheap. Look at ASUS TUF series. Terrible thermal, so they locked thermal.
Now look at HP and Acer. Good thermal. Allows better undervolt control if you wish.
It’s all about the manufacturers.
Expensive motherboards has it too.

Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Then why does a computer has a undervolt protection?
Actually, I'm not sure, I could find out, but where's the fun in that? Care to tell us? Or are you just going to keep ignoring my questions?
Undervolt protection used to prevent from let MOSFET, BJT, and IGBT work up too much due to not enough current cause by undergone.
Red™ 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 16분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Red™님이 먼저 게시:
Because, my dear friend, manufacturer are cheap. Look at ASUS TUF series. Terrible thermal, so they locked thermal.
Now look at HP and Acer. Good thermal. Allows better undervolt control if you wish.
It’s all about the manufacturers.
Expensive motherboards has it too.

Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
Actually, I'm not sure, I could find out, but where's the fun in that? Care to tell us? Or are you just going to keep ignoring my questions?
Undervolt protection used to prevent from let MOSFET, BJT, and IGBT work up too much due to not enough current cause by undergone.

Okay, buddy.
Autumn_ 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 28분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Red™님이 먼저 게시:
Because, my dear friend, manufacturer are cheap. Look at ASUS TUF series. Terrible thermal, so they locked thermal.
Now look at HP and Acer. Good thermal. Allows better undervolt control if you wish.
It’s all about the manufacturers.
Expensive motherboards has it too.

Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
Actually, I'm not sure, I could find out, but where's the fun in that? Care to tell us? Or are you just going to keep ignoring my questions?
Undervolt protection used to prevent from let MOSFET, BJT, and IGBT work up too much due to not enough current cause by undergone.
Yeah, okay, I didn't understand what you're saying because of the formatting and poor word choice, could you try again please?
(No harm or insult intended, I just want to know what you're saying.)
Jamebonds1 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 35분 
Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Expensive motherboards has it too.


Undervolt protection used to prevent from let MOSFET, BJT, and IGBT work up too much due to not enough current cause by undergone.
Yeah, okay, I didn't understand what you're saying because of the formatting and poor word choice, could you try again please?
(No harm or insult intended, I just want to know what you're saying.)

Dumb autocorrect.

Undervolt protection used for prevent MOSFET, BJT, and IGBT from work up too much to drive current due to undervolt.
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Memes 2020년 3월 26일 오후 6시 49분 
Red™님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Expensive motherboards has it too.


Undervolt protection used to prevent from let MOSFET, BJT, and IGBT work up too much due to not enough current cause by undergone.

Okay, buddy.
Got it for 500 before finding out it was ♥♥♥♥ like a while ago. The laptop is fine I just want to get some more frames from underclocking. Theres no error message from the reboot and its like an average restart and it reser my value to the original again as well.
Autumn_ 2020년 3월 26일 오후 7시 01분 
Red™님이 먼저 게시:
Memes Are Moist님이 먼저 게시:
Its a Dell Inspiron 7567 and isn't undervolting safer because you're lowering the volt?
Ah. There is your problem: you bought a Dell product. Low quality product from them. Wouldn’t even look or touch these at all. They have low build quality, terrible screen, weird sounds and keyboard feels awkward to use.
I have several Dell monitors, all of which are great.
I even have a Dell laptop, and it's cooling does the job, but it's some 3rd gen i5, so ehh.

Dell make alright products, just gotta make sure you're buying something good. Like with any other brand.

Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
Yeah, okay, I didn't understand what you're saying because of the formatting and poor word choice, could you try again please?
(No harm or insult intended, I just want to know what you're saying.)

Dumb autocorrect.

Undervolt protection used for prevent MOSFET, BJT, and IGBT from work up too much to drive current due to undervolt.
Okay, I can understand that, but the transistors in CPUs won't get damaged, they can handle much higher current. (You know, since every CPU is just binned lower and lower, the more defective parts it has, so the lower end hardware can handle just as much as the high end hardware, since it's essentially the same thing.)
MOSFETs are one thing, but a CPU is another - lowering voltage won't damage CPU or GPUs.
They can handle lots of current just fine, and any current difference you'll find is insignificant.

Undervolting isn't going to cause any issues for a CPU or GPU.
Other than it will cause crashes (if unstable), no hardware damage will occur.
(Again, cite a source that disproves me if I'm wrong.)

Though, I'm going to applaud you actually answering me this time. Keep up the good work.
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